Skins11 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 PM me when Taylor calls his quarterback gay, says his team has no heart, calls out his QB in the superbowl for getting tired, and basically saying that the QB of his team is holding him back. Thanks. Sean Taylor may have troubles, but no, it is not negatively impacting the team right now. His teammates love him. TO's teammates? Oh yeah, a former one got in a fight with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lunarluau Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 The Amsterdam Admirals could use a good third receiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 By the way, I think ST is worse then TO. A chronic face spitter is about as low as a man can get. You don't really believe that. You're just flaming. ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Tr, I think I hear you suggesting that Gibbs is indeed immune to the temptations of talented players with troubled backgrounds. If that is the case, do you then believe that he regrets drafting Sean Taylor, even after he has proven to be one of the three best safeties in football? I certainly don't agree with that, I can't imagine you would agree with it, either. Taylor had no history of attitude or problems before he was signed with the Skins...period. Your part about Gibbs bringing in players with 'speckled pasts' is wrong. Did Gibbs have players that turned out to have problems? Yes. Did he keep some of them around? Yes. But he never brought anyone in with a problem. He passed on Randy Moss this year, for instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Look at the players during JG's first tour of duty. :laugh:By the way, I think ST is worse then TO. A chronic face spitter is about as low as a man can get. Don't make me defend horrible personal behavior...I won't. I have my issues with ST. But, ST wouldn't bring the team down, and unlike Andy, JG wouldn't tolerate it as long as Andy did. Just the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 You don't really believe that. You're just flaming. ..... No, I do believe that. Spitting in another man's face is the mark of a coward and the lowest thing someone can do in my opinion. Please don't try to frame my argument or intentions again. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigredone Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 There is always the NFL Europe..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Please don't try to frame my argument or intentions again. Thanks. when you're this transparent it's hard not to. Flame on. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 I'll check with you with what my opinion should be, for now on before I post, zoony. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWUeagleMD Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Taylor had no history of attitude or problems before he was signed with the Skins...period. Your part about Gibbs bringing in players with 'speckled pasts' is wrong. Did Gibbs have players that turned out to have problems? Yes. Did he keep some of them around? Yes. But he never brought anyone in with a problem. He passed on Randy Moss this year, for instance. Fair enough. Though I would be surprised to hear that Sean Taylor's issues came completely out of nowhere based on the frequency with which they've appeared since he came into the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockeryfan Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Look at the players during JG's first tour of duty. :laugh:By the way, I think ST is worse then TO. A chronic face spitter is about as low as a man can get. JJG gets a reputation for this straight laced guy, but he always liked characters. As for you prefering TO over Sean Taylor, all I can say is wow. Farging wow. The guy destroyed the chemistry of a team coming off a Super Bowl loss, with 22 starters returning. Not saying he was the only reason they sucked, that would be too much of a scapegoat, but he didn't help at all. Not at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/PHI/9157137 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 No, I do believe that. Spitting in another man's face is the mark of a coward and the lowest thing someone can do in my opinion. http://www.theamericanmind.com/mt-test/archives/cat_sports.html Micheal Pittman, running back for the Super Bowl Champions rammed his Hummer into a car carrying his wife, son, and baby sitter. This is his fourth arrest for assaulting his wife. ~~~ You've got some messed up values my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Share Posted January 11, 2006 JJG gets a reputation for this straight laced guy, but he always liked characters.As for you prefering TO over Sean Taylor, all I can say is wow. Farging wow. The guy destroyed the chemistry of a team coming off a Super Bowl loss, with 22 starters returning. Not saying he was the only reason they sucked, that would be too much of a scapegoat, but he didn't help at all. Not at all. I don't think I was clear. I don't prefer TO over ST.....I think ST did something worse then TO while knowing that TO's antics were much more destructive then ST's. Sorta how Ray Lewis attempted to cover up when his friends killed that guy but his teammates didn't seem to care on the way to the Superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Share Posted January 11, 2006 http://www.theamericanmind.com/mt-test/archives/cat_sports.htmlMicheal Pittman, running back for the Super Bowl Champions rammed his Hummer into a car carrying his wife, son, and baby sitter. This is his fourth arrest for assaulting his wife. ~~~ You've got some messed up values my friend. Die Hard, come on man. Are you really going to stretch my hyperbole to every situation someone can do? Do you really believe I thought spitting in a man's face is worse than arson, rape, torture, and murder? Ok, so I'm very clear, spitting in another man's face is the worst thing someone can do on the field of play...unless he kills, rapes, or tortures someone. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Ok, so I'm very clear, spitting in another man's face is the worst thing someone can do on the field of play...unless he kills, rapes, or tortures someone. :laugh: Personally, I believe punching a teammate in the face and breaking his skull (ie. Romanowski) was the worst thing I've heard of. I'm not condoning spitting at all. It's bush-league and I'm ashamed of it. But Taylor's problems stem from opponents... and has individual repercussions. Owens has torn 2 different franchises apart. So, are we talking about Owens vs Taylor as "men"? Or football players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Share Posted January 11, 2006 As a football teammate and player, Owens is clearly more destructive to a franchise. As a person, ST is more of a thug and problem. I'll stand by that statement. Pittman, ironically, is worse than both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redphoenix Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 :sucks: Who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWUeagleMD Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 :sucks: Who cares. Agreed. I regret contributing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers22 Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Eagles won't get much for him in a trade, everybody knows he's not gonna play there next year and all they have to do is wait for him to be cut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsNation Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 There is no way the Eagles will trade him to a divisional opponent....the Eagles FO are not that dumb. I predict that TO will land with an AFC team...buried somewhere that the Eagles dont have to worry about facing him....maybe....the Raiders/Broncos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 If Washington had lost that game in Tampa last week, Redskin fans would be calling for the head of Sean Taylor. The only reason we are all so quick to forgive or defend him is because we won. I watch Sean run his mouth and challenege opponents by getting right up in their grill after EVERY play he's involved in (and some that he's not.) However, we've all seen players like Andre "Dirty" Waters, Bill Romanowski, Jack Tatum, etc. have very successful careers in the NFL. Every fan in the league hated those players except the fans of the teams they played for. Haven't any of you ever heard RBs talk about how defensive players try to bite off their fingers, gouge out their eye, or grab/punch their groin at the bottom of a pile? Believe me, friends- alot worse than spitting goes on in every single NFL game. Redskin fans are naturally going to "forgive" Taylor just as fans of the Eagles used to overlook Waters' foul tactics. Also- when did Michael Pittman become such a sympathetic character? (SHEESH.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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