Om Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Pursuant to Len Shapiro's love-tap to ES ... I'm doubtful this will see the light of day at the WP, but I feel better already for having sent it. * To the Editor, I am left to wonder if Leonard Shapiro’s stunning potshot at Extremeskins.com (Honoring and Dishonoring the NFL's Best, 12/29/05) is the personal animus it appears, or if there is perhaps more to the story. Casually and dismissively labeling a diverse community of nearly 50,000 men and women as “despicable,” with nary a hint of context or justification, is beyond bush league–it is crass and unprofessional. Surely the Washington Post is above such pettiness? The community Mr. Shapiro so smugly denigrates is entirely “accountable.” It is a debate forum where opinions and free exchange of ideas are actively encouraged. As such, we renew our standing invitation to Mr. Shapiro to descend from his Ivory Tower and hold himself to the same standards he apparently finds so lacking in others. Our growing community of consumers will watch with keen interest to see whether there is substance behind Mr. Shapiro and his own “venom,” or if he instead continues to stick out his well-paid tongue at the very fan base he purports to write for, safely ensconced all the while behind his employer's institutional skirts. Mark Steven Extremeskins.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Nice use of "bush league." And no, the Compost unfortunately isn't above such pettiness. If they were, we'd have seen the last of Sally Frankenjenkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Sassy Molassy Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Okay, this reminds me. Never get into a debate or argument with Om, you will always lose. Great work, Mark. Leo is really showing his true colors with his statements, and he obviously has no proof to any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Great job, Mark. I'm astounded by some of what I read these days. It's all editorials and opinions, sans reporting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 well written, thought out, and concise response dog ... :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugsy27 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 i musta missed this one...what did shapiro say?? edited to add: never mind...just found that post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonnyRules Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Well put, Om. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactitle Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Great Job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 i musta missed this one...what did shapiro say??edited to add: never mind...just found that post he called all of us despicable :excited: ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griff Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Pursuant to Len Shapiro's love-tap to ES, as noted and discussed here ... http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135709 I'm doubtful this will see the light of day at the WP, but I feel better already for having sent it. * To the Editor, I am left to wonder if Leonard Shapiro’s stunning potshot at Extremeskins.com (Honoring and Dishonoring the NFL's Best, 12/29/05) is the personal animus it appears, or if there is perhaps more to the story. Casually and dismissively labeling a diverse community of nearly 50,000 men and women as “despicable,” with nary a hint of context or justification, is beyond bush league–it is crass and unprofessional. Surely the Washington Post is above such pettiness? The community Mr. Shapiro so smugly denigrates is entirely “accountable.” It is a debate forum where opinions and free exchange of ideas are actively encouraged. As such, we renew our standing invitation to Mr. Shapiro to descend from his Ivory Tower and hold himself to the same standards he apparently finds so lacking in others. Our growing community of consumers will watch with keen interest to see whether there is substance behind Mr. Shapiro and his own “venom,” or if he instead continues to stick out his well-paid tongue at the very fan base he purports to write for, safely ensconced all the while behind his employer's institutional skirts. Mark Steven Extremeskins.com Wonderful letter Mark, I hope you don't mind me passing it along today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted December 30, 2005 Author Share Posted December 30, 2005 Wonderful letter Mark,I hope you don't mind me passing it along today. No sir, I do not. Thanks for the assist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfMan Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Professional as always! Very interested if we get a response. HTTR!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 ...............or if he instead continues to stick out his well-paid tongue at the very fan base he purports to write for............ Well put Om, but since when has the Post even pretended to write "for" us? They dont write articles to please Skins fans, why else do they have the likes of Shapiro, UnWise Mike, and Sally Jenkins on payroll? All three of these writers are openly hostile towards Skins fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead Blocker Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Thanks for sending the letter. Now let's see if there is a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Om > Washington Post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsterp Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Here's a link to the Shapiro article posted yesterday. Shapiro Column Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parlett316 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 He's upset and angry that the internet is taking away his future income since us sports fans have no need for his paper. o internet what have you done =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hog Lover Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Good letter. Nice to see that someone fought back to that BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raub Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 My own letter: As a lifelong Redskins fan, I take exception to Leonard Shapiro's latest article "Honoring and Dishonoring the NFL's Best." The last paragraph of the article states "Worst web site: Extremeskins.com, now owned and operated by the Washington Redskins and a place where no-accountability venom remains the lifeblood of a despicable operation." Not only is this not true (it is owned by the Redskins, but is operated by the same staff that have operated it for 5 years), but it is calling nearly 50,000 Redskins fans "despicable." Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. I'm sure many of the Extremeskins fans are also regular readers of the Post, and if they feel like I do after reading that statement, I expect to see your list of subscribers dwindle by quite a few. Extremeskins is a community, an open forum where Redskins fans can discuss all things related to the team, including the press coverage of the team. It encourages accountability for the press, and it sounds like something hit a little too close to home for Mr. Shapiro. Thank you for the free advertising Mr. Shapiro, and thank you for making me proud to be a "despicable" Redskins fan. Bryan Shew Extremeskins.com member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactitle Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Great job Mark and Bryan. Am anxious to see what if anything the Post will do with them. I doubt they will print them but it would be awesome if they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 that was so intellignet, it hurt my head... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmiJo Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Any man who would use the words "denigrates" and "ensconced" on a message board has got to be a fine American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizkiteer Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Pursuant to Len Shapiro's love-tap to ES ... I'm doubtful this will see the light of day at the WP, but I feel better already for having sent it. * To the Editor, I am left to wonder if Leonard Shapiro’s stunning potshot at Extremeskins.com (Honoring and Dishonoring the NFL's Best, 12/29/05) is the personal animus it appears, or if there is perhaps more to the story. Casually and dismissively labeling a diverse community of nearly 50,000 men and women as “despicable,” with nary a hint of context or justification, is beyond bush league–it is crass and unprofessional. Surely the Washington Post is above such pettiness? The community Mr. Shapiro so smugly denigrates is entirely “accountable.” It is a debate forum where opinions and free exchange of ideas are actively encouraged. As such, we renew our standing invitation to Mr. Shapiro to descend from his Ivory Tower and hold himself to the same standards he apparently finds so lacking in others. Our growing community of consumers will watch with keen interest to see whether there is substance behind Mr. Shapiro and his own “venom,” or if he instead continues to stick out his well-paid tongue at the very fan base he purports to write for, safely ensconced all the while behind his employer's institutional skirts. Mark Steven Extremeskins.com Little would he know that for us die hard 'Skins fans that live outside the DC area, this is the BEST source of info for our love. Yes, we get it all here. Not only the article and the blurbs from onlines sources, but opinions and everything else. Then again, he wouldn't know that though because must come off the 5th floor of 1515 L. Street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB44 Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 My own letter:As a lifelong Redskins fan, I take exception to Leonard Shapiro's latest article "Honoring and Dishonoring the NFL's Best." The last paragraph of the article states "Worst web site: Extremeskins.com, now owned and operated by the Washington Redskins and a place where no-accountability venom remains the lifeblood of a despicable operation." Not only is this not true (it is owned by the Redskins, but is operated by the same staff that have operated it for 5 years), but it is calling nearly 50,000 Redskins fans "despicable." Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. I'm sure many of the Extremeskins fans are also regular readers of the Post, and if they feel like I do after reading that statement, I expect to see your list of subscribers dwindle by quite a few. Extremeskins is a community, an open forum where Redskins fans can discuss all things related to the team, including the press coverage of the team. It encourages accountability for the press, and it sounds like something hit a little too close to home for Mr. Shapiro. Thank you for the free advertising Mr. Shapiro, and thank you for making me proud to be a "despicable" Redskins fan. Bryan Shew Extremeskins.com member Whose Bryan? :laugh: Very nice letters fellas. The team, and its fans are on the verge of its dreams, making the playoffs, and the Post has stepped up its game and gone out of its way to be negative, derogative, and insulting. Nice job fellas. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmiJo Posted December 30, 2005 Share Posted December 30, 2005 Little would he know that for us die hard 'Skins fans that live outside the DC area, this is the BEST source of info for our love. Yes, we get it all here. Not only the article and the blurbs from onlines sources, but opinions and everything else. Then again, he wouldn't know that though because must come off the 5th floor of 1515 L. Street. He could know, but still would not care. You said "for us die hard 'Skins fans that live outside the DC area, this is the BEST source of info for our love." Well, it used to be that the Post was about the ONLY place most fans could learn about the team. With the advent of the Internet and not only places like this but this place, they are no longer to only game in town. Because of the affiliation with the team, ES is able (IMO) to provide us with access and information that at times even the Post cannot. They understand this and it means something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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