boobiemiles Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I was watching the re-run of the Pitt game and I noticed that Rams did not audible once. At one time we got flagged for delay of game. Aikman said that Joe is still adjusting to the new play clock. My question is this why doesn't Joe call the plays early so Rams can get to the line and take a look at the Defense. I know we have alot of good O-Coordinators, but are they debating what plays to run? I feel that we need to either call the plays earlier to give Rams a chance to survey the D, or give him the freedom to call audibles at the line. I think this would cut down on Rams jitters in the pocket, and the Palumalo type INts. That int happened because Thrash was suppose to run a hot route on the blitz, but he ran the regular out route instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budski Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I guess to me it seemed they were getting the plays in pretty much on time. They might have been doing a little too much evaluating and not enough clock watching. If the problem arises during a real game it be cause for worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Ramsey did audible at least once, on the pass to Moss that was underthrown but that Moss caught. I believe Ramsey audibled a few times, but I'll check that again. In any case, we've had one delay penalty all preseason after being plagued by them last year. I think Gibbs knows he had to improve this area. I believe he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Its a good point and is a problem, Ramsey has to hurry the snap a lot more often than I feel is necessary. The delay of game penalties have to go away, they are simply unprofessional. I would like to see more audibles and the only way to get that done is to relay the plays quicker. I like the way Manning goes into every huddle with 3 plays but understand he is in a whole different league than Ramsey. IMO, A delay of game penalty can only be excused for substitution and player mixups, etc.. Not from not relaying the play in a timely manner. I think that this whole situation sits on Gibbs' shoulders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 This was a big problem until the middle of the season last year...I see nothing but improvement since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstahl Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I am not sure I agree here. Sure if he can get the plays in a bit faster that is great but the audible is not the answer. If you mean let Ramsey call the play on the field that is a different matter. An audible takes longer to get off than the play you called in the huddle so that does not help timing at all and actually maybe a contributing factor. If you are late to the line and find a defense that you do not like one has little time to audible to a different play. So getting the play in faster is always a help but audibles really have nothing to do with getting the play off faster and will really likely hurt things. One could go to the hurry up and then call the play at the line (hmmm, would that be considered and audible????) which leaves more time but given the want of Joe to run the ball, control the clock I can't see him going to the hurry up as a staple in this offense (this is NOT the fastest show on turf =) Lastly, I do not think Joe is going to leet Ramsey (or anyone else) calls the offense in the huddle. I think those days are likely done, for the most part, in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinstzar Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 What game were you watching? I was there and he did audible once. We had one delay of game. We have had at most two DOGs in the preseason. How many did we average per game last year? The play calling is fine. I watched the clock and we got the snap off usually with 5-7 seconds to spare and at the line in plenty of time to take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoney26 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 He audibles a lot. You can actually hear it. It will start...."Green 40, Green 40....check blue 22 blue 22" or something to that nature. A lot of times they audible to the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triple6mafia Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I prefer Gibbs play calls over Ramsey's audibles. I love Ramsey and he should be the starter, but it just seems that he is not that great with audibles and they don't seem to work out. Plus it does take a while for him to call them, so it usually turns out for the worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 he audibled a few times I can remember.. I only remember one delay of game penalties.. Was there more that I'm not remember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Complete Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 When he was doing audibles all the time under Spurrier, it would ADD to the delay of game penalties, remember? I agree that it takes MORE time to get an audible off then to go with the play called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 He audibles a lot. You can actually hear it. It will start...."Green 40, Green 40....check blue 22 blue 22" or something to that nature. A lot of times they audible to the run. a lot of the times, i would imagine there are fake audibles to disguise when he really is audibling. however the most obvious audible is when everyone slightly turns their head to hear what he is saying. also has anyone noticed that ramsey's cadence has gotten louder? brunell still has the better pipes but ramsey has gotten louder to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feeshta Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I wasd actually very surprised with that delay penalty. I'm not sure about anyone else, but it seemed like we got a really short clock that time. Seemed like the refs had just finished setting the ball when we approached the line, and all of a sudden the whsitle blew. Both myself and my cousin who was watching the game with me were a bit confused, and so was Ramsey. Just seemed like it may have been an officiating screw up to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty dread Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I definitely recall PR calling an audible at least once during the Steelers game, I'm sure he probably called a few more too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 he audibled a few times I can remember.. I only remember one delay of game penalties.. Was there more that I'm not remember? No, just the one. The other big thing is that the starting unit has had zero false start penalties. Slowly but surely this is turning into a Gibbs football team. :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncevensen Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I was at the game and I saw one audible by Ramsey. But yes, Ramsey has to have more time to read the D and audibile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 No, just the one. The other big thing is that the starting unit has had zero false start penalties. Slowly but surely this is turning into a Gibbs football team. :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck Dockery has kept himself in check.. I love seeing it.. I don't think he's had a penalty against him this preseason has he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I actually think that this season is the first one I've seen in a long time when false starts and delay of game penalties aren't the norm. And I agree about that one penalty - I immediately looked at my friend and said - "That can't be a delay of game, it wasn't enough time since they set the ball!" I'm sure it won't be this way all season, but I don't think Ramsey audibles too much in this system, so it shouldn't be as much of an issue if at all. The better thing, from my perspective, is the absence of false starts. That's huge. BD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Tater Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I think we want to get to the LOS with at least 10 seconds remaining so we can spend as many as 8 seconds moving around and still have time to set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Prime Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Last year, we beat ourselves right out of the play off's.. I don't see that happening this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrfriedm Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 This problem has already been addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soliloquy Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 also has anyone noticed that ramsey's cadence has gotten louder? brunell still has the better pipes but ramsey has gotten louder to me. I've noticed that as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorPickSix Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 it took me til the end of reading that seqment to realize you were talking about patrick ramsey and not the st louis rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Pablo Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 Brunell seems to have plenty of time at the line. You can see him surveying the field. So is it Gibbs or Ramsey that is at fault? They're both playing against the same vanilla defenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyJoe92 Posted August 31, 2005 Share Posted August 31, 2005 I hope Joe calls the plays earlier because we can’t have PR in there making changes. I’d rather have the OT call the play then PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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