@DCGoldPants Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/peter_king/06/13/mmqb.brady/3.html I think whoever signs Chad Morton is going to get a player who helps that team win two extra games this year. Two! Stop arguing over a few signing-bonus bucks. Morton will be one of the five most electric return men in the game. dude covers Football still, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 That's about one of the most moronic things I've read this year. What factual analysis is he basing this on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 that Chad is no longer a Skin. That simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 funny, I didn't see him tout Morton the past two years in giving the Redskins a TWO game edge having him back there on returns. I hate to admit it, but at the time of his signing one Jets fan came on the board and told us that Morton had 3-4 monster games to start the 2002 season for the Jets, including the first where he returned 2 kicks for TDs, but that over the last 13 games he was merely average and didn't warrant the kind of bonus we gave him Turns out the guy was right. The argument that Morton is more than just a return man (which Vinny threw out there when he was signed) was debunked in that Dallas game where after injuries to our top runners, Morton had to come in and take some carries. At 5'10 and 180 Morton lasted less than a quarter before a well placed hit or two knocked him out of the game. He never caught on as a third down player either because as it turns out Ladell Betts has better hands as a receiver! According to Peter King the bust in Washington commemorating the record-breaking season of Danny Wuerffel from 2002 should be nearing completion :laugh: Maybe we should put the one for Chad Morton right next to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wskin44 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by herrmag That's about one of the most moronic things I've read this year. What factual analysis is he basing this on? Peter King wouldn't know a fact if it landed on his platter. He's sure that analysis is something that only his proctologist should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wskin44 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 The year before Morton came here he averaged 27 yards per kick return. Betts, in his rookie season averaged 24 yards. I never understood why we paid all that money to gain 3 more yards maybe 4 times a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 wskin44, what the Jets fan was trying to tell us was that those two 80 yard run backs by Morton inflated his numbers into a pro bowl year, yet he failed to continue to make big plays down the stretch and that in retrospect Chad just had a run of 3-4 outstanding games....................much as we have seen Rod Gardner do SEVERAL times during his career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wskin44 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Take away those two runs and Betts probably outperformed Morton that year. As soon as the defenders knew about Morton and focused on him they bottled him up. It really makes you appreciate Brian Mitchell who continued to produce year after year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 what a joke peter king is. I hope morton goes to the giants because I'm not worried about his return game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowghost Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Bufford that Chad is no longer a Skin. That simple. That says it all, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowtrain Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by bulldog wskin44, what the Jets fan was trying to tell us was that those two 80 yard run backs by Morton inflated his numbers into a pro bowl year, yet he failed to continue to make big plays down the stretch and that in retrospect Chad just had a run of 3-4 outstanding games....................much as we have seen Rod Gardner do SEVERAL times during his career Morton did start off the season very hot that season and then cooled off considerably. But in fairness to Morton, he cooled off because teams went out of their way to avoid kicking to him, which resulted in great field position anyway. But he was never worth the money to Washington for 2 predictable reasons. First, the Jets leveraged Morton's strengths through Westhoff, one of the NFL's best STs coaches. The entire unit was rock solid. Having a good return man is useless, unless the infrastructure is in place to take advantage of him. That didn't exist for the Redskins. Second, Washington intended to use Morton in ways that extended beyond his limited skill set. He's a KO return man because of his speed and vision (when in a strong system), but he lacks top end acceleration from a standing position. This was a liability in PR. And as for using him out of the backfield, that was never a plausible scenario also due to his lack of acceleration, as well as size. The transferability of a FA's skills is always a risk when bringing in new talent from another team. But when a player's skill set is incorrectly identified, it makes that transition even more difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 knee surgery Petie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty P For The Pulitzer Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by bulldog According to Peter King the bust in Washington commemorating the record-breaking season of Danny Wuerffel from 2002 should be nearing completion :laugh: Well, his bust would be near completion had we not drafted Fred Smoot. Picking Smoot has doomed the franchise and we still regret it to this day. And I unfortunately have to agree (somewhat) with Flowtrain. It's kind of hard for Morton to use his skills when we don't block for him. There were many times when he had nowhere to run and it wasn't necessarily always his fault. It's too bad he got hurt last year because as the year went on, I thought he had a chance to break out. With that said, I'm glad he's gone because we gave him way too much money. I like Betts better anyways, and Antonio Brown should get a shot at shagging punts (except for Week 2!!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty P For The Pulitzer Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by bubba9497 knee surgery Petie Yeah, I was under the impression that it isn't set in stone yet that Morton will even be ready to play in Week 1. Maybe Belichick and Parcells told Queen how much they liked Morton while they were tag-teaming him, and that explains the seemingly insane and random prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDawg Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Fatty P For The Pulitzer Well, his bust would be near completion had we not drafted Fred Smoot. Picking Smoot has doomed the franchise and we still regret it to this day. And I unfortunately have to agree (somewhat) with Flowtrain. It's kind of hard for Morton to use his skills when we don't block for him. There were many times when he had nowhere to run and it wasn't necessarily always his fault. It's too bad he got hurt last year because as the year went on, I thought he had a chance to break out. With that said, I'm glad he's gone because we gave him way too much money. I like Betts better anyways, and Antonio Bryant should get a shot at shagging punts (except for Week 2!!). Antonio Bryant = Brown Antonio Brown = Redskin But otherwise I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 betcha he said chad morton blew when he was on the skins though, didn't he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Comeon now... Peter King isn't a total Skins basher... He did say Danny Wuerffel was going to put up crazy fantasy points a couple years back AND he gave the ice cream place near the Redskins training camp glowing reviews... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris "Touchdown" Cooley Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Many of you forget, including those Jets fans who laugh at the fact we gave Morton so much money.... is that the Jets matched our RFA offer but due to some fine print stuff (can't remember the exact reason) the Jets were unable to retain him and we ended up with him. I am not saying Morton was worth the money or saying he is going to win anybody 2 games... but at the time the Jets thought he was valuable enough for that contract AND we forget all the games in which our punt or kick returner would fumble the ball on the return... I'm not hating on A. Brown but didn't he fumble the ball in the Dallas game giving them the ball? Although our defense stopped them that posession... I'm pretty sure had they scored to take the lead, many would never want Brown returning a kick again, no matter how fast he is. To Morton's credit we never had to cringe at the fact that he could lose the ball and give it to the other team. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flowtrain Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Chris "Touchdown" Cooley Many of you forget, including those Jets fans who laugh at the fact we gave Morton so much money.... is that the Jets matched our RFA offer but due to some fine print stuff (can't remember the exact reason) the Jets were unable to retain him and we ended up with him. I am not saying Morton was worth the money or saying he is going to win anybody 2 games... but at the time the Jets thought he was valuable enough for that contract AND we forget all the games in which our punt or kick returner would fumble the ball on the return... This point is not forgotten, but it's even more understandable in light of my post above. Morton was a better fit and had more value to the Jets than the Redskins because the Jets (1) had Westhoff, (2) had excellent STs blockers (3) had Moss returning punts, (4) had a full backfield. So, it made sense for the Jets to match the Skins offer, but it didn't make sense for the Skins to make that offer in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Peter King wrote about the Patriots again. Color me surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Westbrook36 Peter King wrote about the Patriots again. Color me surprised. Yeah, I think he's in over his head with a national publication...he should write for the Globe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I never thought much of the Morton signing and I'm not going to argue that it wasn't a mistake. I do find it amusing that King suddenly thinks he's some hot free agent. I guess we'll find out soon enough if he's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by Henry I never thought much of the Morton signing and I'm not going to argue that it wasn't a mistake. I do find it amusing that King suddenly thinks he's some hot free agent. I guess we'll find out soon enough if he's right. you won't find out from him! that's for sure. Did King ever admit he was wrong about Fred Smoot when he was a rookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryerye05 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 it would be more accurate to say that whoever signs morton will lose 2 extra games a year, thats what happend to us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Originally posted by tr1 Yeah, I think he's in over his head with a national publication...he should write for the Globe. yeah the Globe, Star, Equirer or weekly world news....anyone of those tabloids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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