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This story may have been useful 50 years ago. However the concept of "morality" has become so vague and riddled with bullet holes because everybody has to have their feelings and way of life protected. It has become impossible for society as a whole to agree upon and define what constitutes morality, so now we are simply left with some very obvious criminal offenses while members of society have become reluctant to judge one another for the things are causing us to rot from the head down (drug abuse, obesity, sexual promiscuity, laziness, parental abandonment, disloyalty, disrespect for family members). No leadership from mist if our public officials. Try finding morality if you can't even define it. Power, on the other hand, is much more easily defined. Not only do our procedural laws define and consolidate power in a small number of individuals in (for the most part) a very clear manner, that power opens the door to corruption ("immorality"). But when the concept of morality is on the ropes, or is already on the canvas, who's to stop the rot? If the presidential election was held tomorrow, half our country would probably vote to re-elect Trump. What does that tell you about how we define morality? Think about what the standard for impeachment requires. He could not be pinned to the wall because a high crime or misdemeanor could not be proven. All the things that Trump has done that make you hate him the most probably are not illegal, they are simply "immoral" in some sense of the word.

Shes sleeping now. For the brief time I saw her today, she was really relaxed and quiet. Edit: may have had some to do with the wine she was drinking.

So got a new puppy in late February. It a Springer spaniel poodle mix. Supposed to be 50 lbs when full grown. Do has been great 95% of the time, very sweet and almost too docile do or a puppy. In in the past 3 weeks she has become more confident and, in my view, a bit agressive especially with my elementary school age kids. She basically goes through these spurts where she gets really nippy and growls like she's angry, and it's difficult to get her to stop right away. Not a huge practical problem now because she's still so small. But moving forward, as she gets bigger I hope this doesn't continue. I've heard about "Springer rage" and I'm starting to wonder if there's something like that going on. Any thoughts?

Yes, agreed. Stay at home should remain the protocol through at least the end of May 2020. That should also give us time to determine whether warmer weather will have an effect on the virus (as predicted), whether the presence of antibodies is a true indicator of immunity (as initially indicated), and the opportunity to continue ramping up testing numbers and testing turn around time. Whats frustrating to me is that most of this will likely have to come at the State level. A national sheltering policy would be ideal, with adjustments as needed depending on circumstances of each state and input from state health officials. A strong federal policy would also be the best way to distribute supplies and testing resources. What we're seeing here is the Administration pushing much of the burden onto the various State governments, their health agencies and employees, and perhaps more importantly, underutilizing those employed at the federal level. I'd be willing to bet there is still quite a bit of frustration among those professionals.

Figures from 4.1.20 through 4.12.20: (1) total # of confirmed infections, (2) daily new infections, and (3) percentage increase from prior day. Chart is mine, data taken from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ Line graph showing the number of new infections from 4.1.20 through 4.12.20. Graph is mine, data taken from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ For 11 out of that last 12 days, we have seen a decrease in the rate of new infections. And now, for the past 3 days we have a decrease in the total number of new infections, with a general leveling off over the same 12 day period. I'd like to see a 5 day streak of decreases in the total number of new infections before its time to declare it a trend, but the data is encouraging.

I think it's a fair analogy, on an inch deep level. Both the seasonal flu and covid-19 are viruses that cause fever and respiratory symptoms. Both disproportionately affect the elderly, particulately in instances of death. Much like the analogy between pearl harbor and 9/11. Both of those incidents were attacks by foreign actors against a sovereign nation, and justified the strongest reasonable military response. People drawing an analogy between the deaths caused by seasonal flu and covid-19 are not completely off base. It is true that the flu kills 10,000 - 50,000 per year in the U.S., depending on the severity of the strain, with the vast majority of those deaths coming from the weakest amongst us. That's he same demographic that covid-19. It's something that is so "regular" and has been ocurring for so long that many people were not even aware of that fact until recent events made it relevant. However.... What the "analogists" ("gizers") are missing is that the deaths this year from covid-19 will be in addition to the yearly total from the seasonal flu, and not in place of those deaths. So take your average 25k or so deaths from flu, then add the deaths from covid-19. So let's say, best case scenario, covid-19 adds an additional 75k deaths. That's a lot of dead grandmas and grandpas. And.... Let's not forget that Covid-19 appears, at this point, to be far more virulent than seasonal flu. So if the U.S. ends up with "only" 75k deaths from covid-19, it will be because of the unprecedented lock downs/sheltering orders implemented by your state governors. If not for those measures, you may be looking at the death of 10% of our elderly population. The only reason that the death figures between the flu and covid-19 could even be reasonably comparable to prior years' seasonal flu figures is because of the extreme sheltering measures taken (it'll also be interesting to see the extent of this years common flu death figures due to the sheltering, but I imagine most of those deaths would be expected to occur during traditional flu seasin from October to January 2020). So really the comparison between the death rates is a bad way to argue.

No. But it killed about 500 more than Japan's attack on pearl harbor.

These are chart and line graph I created myself from figures taken from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ I've been keeping an excel spreadsheet since the beginning of outbreak tracking the daily increase in cases across the united states (and in MD, by county). I then take the number of "new cases" for a particular day and divide it by the number of total infections from the prior day to get a "percentage increase" for each day (i.e. the percentage of new cases is based on the increase in infections from the prior day's total). I cut and pasted the cells from my spreadsheet from 3/23/2020 to 4/9/2020 to create the first chart. The line graph I provided was created by highlighting the column for "new infections" from 4/1/2020 to 4/9/2020, right mouse clicking, selecting "quick analysis," selecting "charts," and then choosing the "Line" option. Believe it or not, not all posters on here simply regurgitate conclusions provided by third party sources in 40 word tweets. The data is available from the website i reference, or from the Johns Hopkins website (similar figures but not precisely the same). I've always found that looking at the underlying data, which is much less likely to be biased, performing my own analysis, and checking it for "illogical results," provides me with the best idea of what is truly happening. I provided these figures/charts because I would like to inject some optimism into this thread, which is sorely needed, and to encourage people to maintain the recommendations of the government authorities on sheltering in place. It took me over an hour to prepare that post. Based on what I can see, things will get better. it is just going to take some more time.

Here is an interesting stat. Since 3/22/2020, the rate of increase in the number of infections has decreased on all but 3 days: *Note: It appears that 4/5/20 was an outlier, like some of the cases from 4/4/20 should have been counted on 4/5/20 maybe.. According to some experts, this is significant because the "doubling time" of the # of infections is extended (i.e. it was 3 days to 68,647 infections, then 4 days to 144,143, 5 days to 278,913, and likely will be 11 days until 560,000. So we're not seeing exponential spread. Strictly from a numbers standpoint, the number of daily new infections has held relatively steady since 4/1/2020: A few notes here (mostly my best "uneducated guesses/theories"): (1) Considering that national "stay at home" policies went into place in many states more or less in late March, and it takes maybe 5-10 days for symptoms to arise, be reported, and result in a test. (2) Perhaps the "leveling off" is a sign that the shelter in place policies are working (i.e. you would expect to see a leveling off of new infections in early April, which is when community spread should drop). (3) A much greater ratio of the new infections we are now seeing reported (between 4/1/20 and 4/9/20), are probably family members infected by another family member during the sheltering phase, as opposed to community spread. In fact, if a husband has it and is sheltering with his wife and two kids, you would expect the wife and kids to become infected (4) So once we run through the "new infections from family members" phase (you only have so many you can infect), perhaps we'll begin to actually see a drop in the number of daily infections. (5) Remember, the number of infections reported on any given day is likely from people that contracted the virus 5-10 days prior.

He was great in Wolf too. Edit: I love the part where Jack pisses on his shoe, like a wolf marking his territory, and Spader's reaction. And when Spader wolfs out toward the end of the movie. He's clearly a student of Stanislavski's system.

That guy was actually picketing outside of the lawnmower factory owned by John and Kevin Moran.

No one should look forward to people dying.

Here are the reported deaths over the same 20 day period (3/10/20 - 3/29/20): Total Deaths New Deaths Rate of Increase So no real discernible trend, other than that the % jumped up on 3/18/20 to 36%, and has been between 25%-40% over the past 14 days. If the hospitals are overrun, I don't think that will affect the number of new cases. Most of the country is now on stay at home restrictions, so if you have a family member or a roommate that brings the infection home, you'll likely get it anyway before that person becomes symptomatic and goes to the hospital 5 days later (or whenever). If they're told to go home because there's no capacity, the rest of the household is probably already exposed. It shouldn't spread beyond the single household in most cases though, if people are adhering to the stay at home orders. Well, if that's the case, and the reported infections and death numbers are worthless, then everyone is ****ed.

From 3/10/2020 to 3/29/2020, these are the figures: Date Total Infects. New Infects. % increase As of now, the number of new infections for today is 16,198. Most states have reported their numbers already, and I'm not sure if some states report their numbers more than once during the day, a few more could jump up. Washington State still hasn't reported, neither has Colorado. If the tracking holds, it could be at ~20k or so, which would be another drop in the daily rate of increase.

I took the figures from the below website, and then inputted my own formulas to determine the number of new cases and percentage increase. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ This website is more or less consistent with the data reported by the Johns Hopkins website, but provides some additional data.

I think its fair to assume that an individual showing symptoms had a better chance of receiving a test over the last four days than you had over the four days prior to that. If deaths is the metric, I also assume that it takes at least a week or two for someone to die after they are showing symptoms, so what we're seeing in the death figures are individuals that were diagnosed in the middle of the month. We don't know what the prognosis is for those being diagnosed now, perhaps it will be different.

In case anyone is wondering, the rate of increase in reported infections in the United States has now gone down for four straight days. Infections New Infect. Increase Now, many of you will look at these figures and say that its only been four days, that the total number of new infections has continued to rise, that death rate is what we should be watching, etc. However, consider that there is more testing occurring now that there was in the preceding time period, so the expectation is that you should find more cases. If the rate of increase continues to drop over the next three days, perhaps we have a trend.

There's probably a good number of people that believe this is the moment where society may finally reset itself, the 99% will finally get their pound of flesh from the 1%, that "the great equalizer" is upon us, etc. Not a chance. There will always be the haves and the have nots. The most intelligent people will rise to the top, earn the most, and have the most political control. If anything, this unprecedented situation will cause the United States to become more self reliant, less accommodating to foreigners, and less likely to offer international assistance.

Pretty sure you're already saying it.

What I fail to grasp here is why the circus can come to town in 1930, and unpack and set up a huge tent large enough to host hundreds of people. Yet the United States cannot set up a huge tent in the parking lot a major sports stadium capable of hosting hundreds of patients. I guess you would need partitions, portable heaters, beds, and generators. There's companies that can come to a bare building space and set up a temporary office in a couple days. Partitions shouldn't be a problem. Bed frames can be made with 2x4s. Mattresses and box springs can be purchased at any number of outlets. I assume this hasn't been done because it's not needed yet. I sure hope that something is being done about the shortage of ventilators. How about China? Can we waive a couple billion dollars in their face to buy 20k of these? Assuming China has them of course. Bring them here, sterilize them and reuse and our supply is sufficient. What about Germany? They probably have a couple thousand laying around. While we're at it, why not outsource some health care workers from other countries that haven't been hit as hard. India, Germany? Individuals with Nursing experience can come here, serve for 6 months, paid $50k and given automatic citizenship after their service is up. Or they can stay another 6 months and earn more, then return to their home country if desired.

We're just not tracking the recovered cases

No, New York was fine. Great time to visit the statue of liberty and rockefeller center.

So i posted this back on 1/23.... Then about a month later I told people to stop panicking we'd take care of it, and that anyone who keeps panicking deserved a backhand slap to the face. I'm all over the place on this one. Unfortunately, this does virtually nothing... It's tough not to fit into one of the exceptions on the list in the Order. Just got an email from the big boss saying we're staying open, which wasn't a surprise, but there's quite a bit of ambiguity for other businesses.

Is that 50 Cent on the end there? Don't know if I'd be messin with the dude.

No.