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Just now, Cooleyfan1993 said:

Fitzpatrick hasn’t been terrible, he’s had a good training camp (and threw a TD in today’s practice) and heinicke looked good in the first preseason game.  

I disagree with that second part especially but regardless we should have traded up for a QB. You don’t take a raw ILB when high impact players are available.

So let’s see…

Our first round LB has been terrible so far, our QBs aren’t performing well…

Almost like I was right this whole time and we should have traded up for Fields.

2 hours ago, AlvinWaltonIsMyBoy said:

Montez Sweat was clumsy as **** his first year. People questioned moving up to get him. They molded him into a possible all pro.
 

Davis has the tools that you can’t teach. He is a willing learner and tackler. Rivera and Del Rio know a thing or two about LBs. I don’t take what they’re saying as “camp hype”, but more that they can see the finished product underneath the rough veneer. 
 

I think Davis will be a great player. The coaches and the other studs on this defense will bring it out in him. 
 

 

Montez was a top 10 prospect that fell. Davis is  mid rounder that we reached on massively. 

7 minutes ago, joeken24 said:

Smh. This is going to be one of those polarizing subjects. To say get the vaccine (especially if it is for the sake of football) is extremely irresponsible and short sighted. If its a choice, its f-ing choice. We're talking about people that believe the vax could cause health issues. Its not about not getting vax in some cases. When is the last time you've seen a vax come out so quickly? Is it really safe? Or is it some sort of placeholder/experiment? Vax usually takes years to develop/test and get approved. You have Jason William (NBA announcer) that tested pos after getting the shot. Go figure. This seems to be about football and convenience. Everyone should maintain their privacy in this regard IMO. The herding mentality is raising its ugly head at this point. Right now, the media is talking about it in ways that virtually vilifies those that don't want the vaccine. And the NFL and Ron is not helping. He is entitled to speak his opinion. But he is literally putting pressure through the media on players that don't have it. Players that don't have the shot have not been identified. But rest assured, it will be leaked. And of course these player will be bad guys. And to that, ask yourself if the same energy towards the vax is going on with baseball or hockey. Not a peep from the media on those leagues. 

Go **** yourself

How about we not let the owner pick players, yes?

Dan is a meat puppet for the NFL. He’s a piece of **** but facts are that billionaires owning an entire organization and controlling all financial aspects is a terrible concept that needs to die. Start demanding publicly owned teams like the packers.

Testing testing

https://venuesnow.com/legends-to-sell-for-two-potential-nfl-stadiums/

6 hours ago, Koolblue13 said:

Domes are dumb as ****. Super weak. It never gets that cold on the field. Ever. Washington is not a bad weather city. A dome would be pathetic. 

 

We'll probably have one.

You’re not viewing it from a business perspective. People want a multi-use complex. City wants to host the SB. Most fans don’t want to sit in the freezing cold. They need a dome or a retractable roof stadium.

4 hours ago, TK said:

Hmmmm.....

 

A dome would give it more of a wolf cave/den feel to it...

 

Would like for it to have a retractable roof or at least have an opening wall like with Allegiant stadium. 

2 hours ago, heyholetsgogrant said:

I hope tax payers don’t have to pay a dime.

0% chance that happens

I would honestly do something similar to SoFi. It’s an infill stadium, meaning it’s open on the sides but is covered. It provides the best of both worlds where you are protected from rain and snow but also get that open feeling. Ideally, you want to have a transparent or translucent roof, too.

It’s amazing how year after year this team finds ways to turn strengths into weaknesses with one swift move. We’re gonna release Montez Sweat next offseason for no reason and you all will use mental gymnastics to justify it.

New head coach, same old deadskins.

2 hours ago, Vanguard said:

Well when you hire bad coaches and clueless front office personnel, that’s what happens.

That’s what we have right now though judging by our offseason plan.

Honestly who cares. Like who really cares outside of selfish fans. Rivalries aren't that heated to teams and players. Just let the man go where he sees the best opportunity and appreciate what he did for us.

13 hours ago, Burgundy Yoda said:

@TheShredder I've seen that data and although it's nice, the fact that it has Fitzpatrick ahead of Russell Wilson just makes me think that QBR is a joke. What are we supposed to take away from that, that Fitzpatrick is the 5th most effective QB in the league? It basically just shows that Fitzpatrick is a gunslinger and throws the ball down the field a lot, which we all knew lol. 

Wilson didn’t play well at all the second half of last year. It shouldn’t be that surprising.

16 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

Crazy how some teams like SD seem to fall into franchise QBs whereas its so hard for us. 😧

Because we don't actually make a move for a good prospect outside of with RG3. It's always settling for stopgaps and reaching for one in the draft. And it's continuing to be that way under Ron.

I think heads should roll if we whiff on getting a franchise QB again this upcoming draft. 

12 hours ago, HigSkin said:

Way too early and no way we're drafting #12

 

 

1. HOUSTON TEXANS: QB SPENCER RATTLER, OKLAHOMA

The Oklahoma quarterback factory continues to churn. Rattler earned a scintillating 92.5 passing grade in his first season as the starter last year, and he is a plus athlete for the position. The biggest question will be size for the 6-foot-1, 205-pounder.

2. DETROIT LIONS: QB SAM HOWELL, NORTH CAROLINA

Howell has the arm strength and accuracy to warrant such a selection, but the North Carolina offense is doing him no favors in his development. His tape is pretty much littered with go-balls and RPOs. His 132 RPO dropbacks last year were 25 more than any other quarterback in the country.

3. NEW YORK JETS: CB DEREK STINGLEY JR., LSU

Stingley led the FBS in coverage grade as a true freshman in 2019 before taking a bit of a step back in an injury-plagued 2020 campaign. He’s got the size, length and speed — he ran a 4.3-second 40 in high school — that you want at the position.

4. CINCINNATI BENGALS: EDGE KAYVON THIBODEAUX, OREGON

Thibodeaux put up 34 pressures in only seven games this past season, with a ridiculous 12 coming against USC in the 2020 Pac-12 Championship Game. He’s an ironman for the Ducks and averaged just over 67 snaps a game last year. He’s got the ideal frame for the edge, too, at 6-foot-5, 250 pounds.

5. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS: DI DEMARVIN LEAL, TEXAS A&M

Leal has shown inside-outside versatility at 6-foot-4, 290 pounds and earned himself an 88.3 overall grade for the Aggies as a true sophomore last year. He’s got the kind of twitch that warrants a top-five selection.

6. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES: QB EMORY JONES, FLORIDA

This one is obviously a massive projection, as he’s only taken 95 career dropbacks. Jones is one of the best dual threats in the country, though, and he earned an 86.1 rushing grade on 35 carries last season.

7. NEW YORK GIANTS: EDGE NIK BONITTO, OKLAHOMA

Bonitto led the entire country with a 93.6 pass-rushing grade in 2020. He’s an undersized yet explosive rusher off the edge capable of bending the corner with ease. If he can continue to add muscle, he’ll justify his decision to return to school.

8. LAS VEGAS RAIDERS: CB KAIIR ELAM, FLORIDA

Elam earned a coverage grade of 89.8 in a part-time role as a freshman in 2019 and then improved that grade to 81.0 this past season. For his career, he’s allowed only 33 catches from 77 targets for 434 yards. At 6-foot-2, 193 pounds, the Florida product is built to play in the league.

9. CAROLINA PANTHERS: OT EVAN NEAL, ALABAMA

Neal is a gargantuan tackle at 6-foot-7, 360 pounds. He played left guard as a freshman and then right tackle last year, where he earned an 86.4 run-blocking grade and a 73.1 pass-blocking grade.

10. ATLANTA FALCONS: S KYLE HAMILTON, NOTRE DAME

Hamilton is a long and rangy safety, but he is also one of the most versatile safeties in the country. At 6-foot-4, 219 pounds, Hamilton is like an Isaiah Simmons clone who can stay on the back end in the NFL.

 

11. NEW YORK GIANTS (FROM CHICAGO BEARS😞 QB MALIK WILLIS, LIBERTY

Willis is the single most physically gifted quarterback in the country. He’s got an absolute hose of an arm and moves like a running back at 6-foot-1, 215 pounds. The former Auburn quarterback is still just a little sloppy game to game heading into his redshirt senior year. He posted a 75.5 passing grade in 2020.

12. WASHINGTON FOOTBALL TEAM: OT JAXSON KIRKLAND, WASHINGTON

In three years as a starter, Kirkland has seen his pass-blocking grade go from 77.1 to 79.0 to 86.6. He allowed all of two pressures on 124 pass-blocking snaps in 2020.

13. PITTSBURGH STEELERS: QB KEDON SLOVIS, USC

Slovis had an up and down sophomore year after an outstanding true freshman campaign. He doesn’t quite have the arm of some others in this class, but he’s been one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the class for two years running.

14. ARIZONA CARDINALS: EDGE ADAM ANDERSON, GEORGIA

If you want a breakout star in 2021, this is your guy. The former five-star recruit has played only 337 career snaps — with a career-high 130 coming last season — but he’s been about as productive as one can be on those reps. On only 196 career pass-rushing snaps, he’s generated 51 pressures. He’s still slim at his listed 230 pounds but has room to grow into his long 6-foot-5 frame.

15. TENNESSEE TITANS: WR GARRETT WILSON, OHIO STATE

The rising junior is going to head into the season as WR1 on the PFF draft board. He’s so smooth as a route-runner and already displays high-level nuance. He racked up 723 yards and six scores in eight games last season.

16. MINNESOTA VIKINGS: CB TRENT MCDUFFIE, WASHINGTON

McDuffie heads into his junior season having earned coverage grades of 83.7 and 77.6 in his first two years for the Huskies. He’s also one of the best tackling corners in the country, with only two misses on 64 career attempts.

17. LOS ANGELES CHARGERS: EDGE GEORGE KARLAFTIS, PURDUE

Karlaftis is a power end who was banged up in 2020 but showed what he was capable of with 55 pressures as a true freshman in 2019. He’s an ox for opposing offensive tackles to handle and has also demonstrated the ability to kick inside at 6-foot-4, 270 pounds.

18. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS: CB MARTIN EMERSON, MISSISSIPPI STATE

The SEC is loaded with corners heading into 2021, and Emerson’s game deserves more love. He broke up 12 of his 59 targets as a sophomore this past season and only allowed 33 catches for 306 yards. He’s a long playmaker on the outside at 6-foot-2, 195 pounds.

19. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (FROM MIAMI DOLPHINS😞 EDGE DRAKE JACKSON, USC

Jackson is still only scratching the surface of what he could be for the Trojans after recording a 66.6 pass-rushing grade last season. His high-end flashes are as impressive as anyone’s in this class.

20. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES (FROM INDIANAPOLIS COLTS😞 CB AHMAD GARDNER, CINCINNATI

Gardner broke onto the scene with a massive true freshman campaign that saw him earn a 90.2 coverage grade and allow only 39.7% of his targets to be completed. He followed it up by allowing only 17 catches on 40 targets for 221 yards as a sophomore in 2020. He’s a touch skinny but has first-round ability if he can fill out his frame.

21. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS: CB NOAH DANIELS, TCU

Through four games in 2020, Daniels was shutting down his side of the field in his first year as a starter before getting injured. He allowed only six catches from 18 targets for 100 yards with five pass breakups. He’s an explosive dude who can hang clean 400 pounds despite weighing only 193 pounds.

22. NEW YORK JETS (FROM SEATTLE SEAHAWKS😞 EDGE KINGSLEY ENAGBARE, SOUTH CAROLINA

Enagbare broke out as a junior in 2020, putting up an 89.2 pass-rushing grade in eight games. He probably would have been a Day 2 pick this year had he declared, but he returned to try to build on that for a full season. At 6-foot-4, 270 pounds, Enagbare has the frame everyone is looking for at the position early on in the draft.

23. DALLAS COWBOYS: OT KENYON GREEN, TEXAS A&M

Green made massive strides from his freshman year when he allowed 28 pressures at right guard. He allowed only 10 at left guard as a sophomore. He’ll kick out to tackle this upcoming season, and he has the athleticism to stay there in the NFL.

24. DENVER BRONCOS: OT ABRAHAM LUCAS, WASHINGTON STATE

Lucas is a powerful right tackle who rarely gets moved on tape. He likely would have declared this past year had the Pac-12 season not gotten significantly shortened. He played only 272 snaps in 2020.

25. GREEN BAY PACKERS: WR DOMINICK BLAYLOCK, GEORGIA

Blaylock is a big projection at this point, as he put up only 310 yards as a freshman before tearing his ACL as a sophomore. He’s an agile slot receiver at 6-foot-1, 195 pounds, with terrific ball skills.

 

26. CLEVELAND BROWNS: WR CHRIS OLAVE, OHIO STATE

Olave is one heck of a route-runner and is consistently productive down the field. It was quite the surprise to see him return for his senior season with the Buckeyes, as he would have been a second-rounder this year at worst.

27. BALTIMORE RAVENS: EDGE ZACH HARRISON, OHIO STATE

While he’s not quite the Bosas or Chase Young, Harrison is next in the Ohio State defensive end pipeline. The 6-foot-6, 265-pounder earned an 86.6 pass-rushing grade as a sophomore in 2020.

28. MIAMI DOLPHINS (FROM SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS😞 LB MIKE JONES JR., LSU

Jones was a surprise transfer after a breakout season for Clemson saw him earn a 90.2 coverage grade. He played the overhang role there but will likely play a more traditional role for LSU this season.

29. BUFFALO BILLS: S JORDAN BATTLE, ALABAMA

Battle made a few spot starts as a true freshman back in 2019 before taking over full-time in 2020. He is a solid all-around safety with ideal size at 6-foot-1, 210 pounds. Battle earned a run-defense grade of 79.1 and a coverage grade of 81.5 last year.

30. DETROIT LIONS (FROM LOS ANGELES RAMS😞 WR TREYLON BURKS, ARKANSAS

Burks is a physically imposing specimen at the position. Listed at 6-foot-3, 232 pounds, he went for 811 yards in only nine games last year, hauling in eight of his 12 contested targets.

31. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS: IOL TYLER LINDERBAUM, IOWA

Linderbaum is the top center on PFF’s draft board and one heck of an athlete for the position. He’s put on a good deal of weight since he first became a starter in 2019 and earned an outstanding 91.5 overall grade last year.

32. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: EDGE BRENTON COX JR., FLORIDA

Cox broke out for the Gators in 2020 after transferring from Georgia early on in his college career. He racked up 48 pressures on the year to go with an 80.8 pass-rushing grade.

That would be horrendous for us, going OL

when Malik Willis gets taken by a division rival. 

At this point the only first rounders we need to be worrying about are at QB. We pretty much have to make a huge move up next year if we want to ever contend

Washington is still second fiddle to the Giants. 

6 minutes ago, bearrock said:

As critical as I've been about not moving up for Fields this year, if evaluating the plan on building a foundation of a winner to add that franchise QB later on, this draft is a homerun in my view.  When execs talk about winning by building that 6-35 guys on the roster, Rivera and Co's approach is probably what they have in mind.  Fantastic draft in the meat and potatoes kind of way.

They have no chance at taking that QB later. There are going to be a ton of QB needy teams picking ahead of us, PLUS 5 firsts rounders between the Giants and Eagles to block us. We have this year and then our window is shut. But that’s what Ron fanboys are cheering on.

1 minute ago, seantaylor=god said:

I’m not going to argue with your opinion but this part is just incorrect. They very clearly had a modern football philosophy- go after players with outstanding athletic traits (see the RAS ratings). How is that not a modern football philosophy? Do you think they should have put more value on college production? Our players for the most part had rave reviews from PFF based on college production. What are you talking about? It seems like you’re upset because we picked players that mock drafters didn’t rate highly. How is that a modern football philosophy?

You don’t take an off ball LB in round 1 unless they are a Devin White/Micah Parsons type talent. You don’t take an unathletic CB in round 3. You don’t take a blocking TE in round 4. You don’t trade up for a LS. You don’t go with Ryan Fitzpatrick and scrubs as your QB room. You don’t pay a guard $18 million guaranteed in a year:

This was a bad draft class overall. Prob would give it a C-/D+. Not being aggressive for Fields is a fatal mistake, Jamin is a poor pick at 19, the St Juste and Bates picks made no sense with way better talent available, and they traded a future 5 for a long snapper. But what saved it from being a complete failure was getting an intriguing OT prospect and stealing Dyami Brown.

You should be very worried about our new front office. They don’t know how to identify value when there isn’t an obvious pick and they don’t believe in modern football philosophy or analytics. Plus we’re screwed at QB if we don’t finish with a top 10 pick next year.

Sorry folks. Hard to feel excited about these picks when the impending doom of having no QB in 2022 is upon us.