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The Hangman- C_Hanburger

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  1. Question for the "experts". I read Rivera is/was a 4/3 scheme coach. Does this portend a 4/3 Defense here if he is hired (that's what he prefers) or does he have the personal flexibility to let his choice of DC run a 3/4 and not mandate a 4/3. Also, if Rivera is hired..how does this effect Norman (who under Rivera was a damn good corner in his schemes)


    Basically..has Rivera ever used a 3/4???

  2. 5 minutes ago, Hooper said:

    Props to Danny. Never thought he would get rid of his blankie completely and in such cold fashion.



    He probably realized he had been spoon fed BS by Allen by the "We're Close" comment. That and from what I read (could be wrong) Allen protected Manusky as his guy. Then Micro Managed Gruden's roster.


    But Congrats to the fire Allen movement! I didn't think it would happen. I'm happier that Gruden is gone and if the price of getting a quality coach in here is Allen's head..so be it.


    Complete re-boot was defiantly warranted! We'll see if Dan keeps his hands of the Jocks.

  3. 4 hours ago, Llevron said:


    I dont think he is worth the money, no. But that doesn't mean I wouldn't still want him as my QB given the correct circumstances. I dont think the Vikes made a bad gamble. But it was a gamble and they lost from the looks of it. They over estimated either their roster, the coaching or Cousins. Or all three, I guess. 

    I agree, I would have liked to have kept KC at our offering price . That whole 2015 thing could be both a correct financial assessment of his ceiling (is that offer now a reasonable one?) AND a career ending mistake for Gruden by putting his job on the line for Cousins vs working with RG3. I *think* Gruden would still be here if he developed RG3 (assuming RG3 would have let him and RG3 eventually learned to read D's)


    What a cluster F


  4. So how many ES'rs think KC is/was worth 84Mil. Forget Alex and all the subsequent activity by this FO. Basic question, seeing KC with a vastly superior roster than the Skins--would you NOW say you would have spent the money/matched the vikings offer. (and Don't bring up the 18Mil 2015 "could have gotten him for less)


    This "letting him go" is a red herring...



  5. What is it with the Wash DC area and Skins players. We draft good college prospects and they come here are learn to be losers and POS's. Not all but we sure seem to have our share of AH's.  It used to be skins players were idolized by fans and they could get away with aberrant behavior (Riggins). They way theses skins play ..not so much.


    What happened to choosing character players (Gibbs type). I hope Trent gets his ass sued off and that changes his attitude. Does he FIGHT these dogs like Vick did???

  6. 2 hours ago, Kelvin Bryant said:


    To be fair, Sonny played during the days of 14 and even 12-game seasons.

    That and the offensive rules then and now are comparable to Rugby and Touch Football. These QB's are pampered babies with receivers the "D" can't touch. You don't see any LB's with a Moniker like "The Hangman" anymore.....Sonny was an elite tough sob...Kirk...don't make me laugh

  7. 2 hours ago, SkinFanInMinn said:

     I know some like to tout how all the Vikings fans are turning against him, but that's just not the case.  In the list of concerns for the Vikings this year, he's definitely down the list.

    But do they consider how many $$ are expended on KC that could be used to build a stronger roster. IS his money and play offsetting the diminished capability of the team to field quality players. Does KC's play overcome deficits....could Keenam had better results with a lower cap hit with the added capacity the difference between KC and Keenum would have bought.  It's not one dimensional..KC's plays Good VS Great. Its a TEAM play that he should be measured against. You can't argue that KC's salary doesn't effect other capacity elsewhere on the team.


    So far Keenum and his TEAM has outperformed KC and his TEAM. KC has NOT elevated TEAM Play IMHO

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  8. 5 hours ago, SkinFanInMinn said:

     I wasn't comparing how they are playing against each other at all, just people's expectations of the two.

    Cousins expectation- fulfilled. Didn't do enough to win an important game. Not saying the loss was his fault, just saying he didn't WIN the game with heroics commensurate with his pay scale.


    Haskins expectation-Fulfilled. He didn't get killed out there.


    30 points...needed 38.


    Still rooting for Vikes to miss playoffs and make 2020 a fun off season to watch.


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  9. 2 hours ago, Playaction2Sanders said:

    I mean if he was still here and everything still happened as is did it would just be 2017 all over again for the past season and a half. With him barely righting the ship to a .500 mark at best.. We still aren't a playoff team with him here and we would have been just prolonging that inevitable. I mean that's what I want to think, but attitudes could have been different and maybe we'd have certain players here still if he was still here.. But just from the injury standpoint, I don't see Cousins making that kind of difference that overcomes that..

    Gruden would still be here and we'd continue to see the pansy play and pampering that got us NADA. Gruden's input MADE the Cousins debacle. Should have traded him after the 1st tag.


    So getting rid of Cousins and Gruden is a 2fer

  10. 8 minutes ago, Unbias said:


    That's a tricky one. Couldn't Trent lawyer up and say the growth was actually the Redskins problem to begin with? 


    IMO this is Trent's way of saying F-U. No doubt his agent and lawyer had his reason thought through before he showed up. 

    The growth..cancer or no..is a NON Football Injury. No way is that caused by playing ball or football contact. Like appendicitis...s*it happens

    THAT and he could have had that checked way before now....

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  11. 40 minutes ago, Peregrine said:

    So, you're line of reasoning is the guy carefully decides to report just before his deadline where he might be in danger of not accruing a season, just so that he can then not accrue a season.  As if he hasnt had a sports lawyer carefully advising him on all of this.


    The ONLY precedent on this type of issue was Galloway. The arbiter ruled as 8 games player = accrual IN THAT CASE. There is no legal verbiage in the CBA that says 8 games. Trent is relying on a single finding as case law....Another arbitration hearing could go against HIM with these facts..who knows but that 8 game BS is a crap shoot from what I'm reading. Could go either way and Dan has better lawyers and a league that doesn't like this trend in player actions



  12. 22 minutes ago, Fresh8686 said:


    Correct me if I'm wrong but Clev didn't trade for any LT at the deadline so the NEED is still there in the off season. Nothing has changed really...Trent will STILL be Trade bait in March. ES was asking for a 1st and a Player...that's funny..you condemn the FO for doing your bidding...


    I want to see how this plays out on accrual. Lets see some hard ball so in the OS Trent will still have 2 full contract years as trade value.

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  13. 1 minute ago, SoCalSkins said:

    The commissioner has the ultimate arbitration power under the CBA. The Zeke and Brady cases solidified that. If the he refuses to play or fakes injury the Redskins need to treat this a a disciplinary case and not a medical grievance. They need to suspend him for conduct detrimental then have the commissioner intercede and suspend him for conduct detrimental to the NFL.  

    The owners need to take power back and the nonsense Jalen Ramsey and now if the reports are accurate Trent want to pull is unacceptable. 

    Which if done he would NOT get the 1 yr accrual. That is what I suggested a # of pages back..suspension for conduct detrimental and not put him on the roster. That's my tack on how to deal with it (if legal)

  14. 25 minutes ago, Ghedrick said:

    This team would be alive in this division if they had an offense that was even below average.The defense over the last 5 games  is giving up 20 points per game. This with an offense that turns the ball over and cannot move the ball.This offense is one of the worst offense in recent NFL history. While I feel the defense has under achieved they are good enough to win with.

    I thought for a long time that Jay's offense was VERY predictable and the DC's were feasting on it. Glad he's gone but the damage was done. That and the talent really sucks. Doctson (if not on IR) is better than Richardson..especially in Red Zone attempts.

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