TheGreatBuzz

Yea sorry. To get more back on topic, my point was more that a lot of people suck at personal finances. That's DOESN'T mean there aren't a lot of people genuinely struggling. But when compared to 4 years ago, there aren't many people struggling now that weren't then. But there ARE a lot of people doing far better whether they admit it or not. People struggling with housing costs were probably struggling with that for a few administration's now.

No. Try reading it again.

No. We're black plan I think? But we also go to alot of games outside our plan. I think last year we spent about $15k total. Add: Have you seen my view?

True. But I also spend on orioles tickets what it cost to raise a kid per year. Yes I'm above median but I also spend way above median. The point wasn't that I'm doing great on so little. The point was that money is there for a lot of people, they just suck at being responsible. Well with some overly broad but probably not far off generalizations, I'd bet 90% of the people at a Trump rally are actually doing just fine or better financially. Outside of them, I'd say 50% of general people ****ing have plenty of money but are just greedy or have crappy priorities. Then another 20%? really could just use some budgeting education. Now subtract the people that actually ARE in rough spots but don't have time to complain. Some rough math and that's what, 80% of society either isn't struggling or at least shouldn't be. Add: also, this conversation came from people comparing themselves to 4 years ago.

Neither is pretending that the vast majority of the dip****s complaining are actually under that kind of stress. The majority of those complaining are yelling it from their lifted Denali with 24" rims. The ones who REALLY are suffering are working too damn much to have time to complain.

Anyone else going to opening day?

People also need to look at what they're spending money on and how ****ing good they have it. Buzzette makes low 6 figures. I make about $70k after taxes. Definitely good money but not killing it either. We live IN a major metropolitan city. I've got a luxury vehicle less than 3 years old paid off. I own my harley. Gas isn't so ridiculous that it's preventing me from going somewhere. We really don't want for anything. We eat out 4-5 times a week. We have season tickets for the Orioles. We don't even bother asking each other if spending less than $5k or so. A very large portion of America is doing great if they're being honest. They can afford their priorities. They just need to be honest about what their priorities actually are. Edit: and we are also able to still put significant amounts monthly into stock and 401k plans. So it's not like we're mortgaging the future.

Good thread but I wanted to call out this tweet specifically.

There are lots of redundancies. Sometimes those break too. Sometimes they take a minute to get going, etc. It's early so here is a word vomit. Most of my experience is on smaller ships like cruisers, frigates, and destroyers. Whenever entering/exiting port or something where you have restricted maneuvering, there are always Sailors down in 'aft steering'. They are there so that if we lose rudder control, they have manual controls to turn the rudder. That way we at least have rudder control unless the rudder just falls off (which does happen😂). But it takes time for message to get relayed via sound powered phone (cool technology from like the 1930s), them to turn the rudder, report completion, then the bridge to evaluate if it had the desired effect. Also, a rudder isn't very useful without propulsion. There are redundancies for that but that's even harder to get going quickly. My time on a carrier was a lot shorter and I was already a somewhat senior leader when I got there. So there was a lot of "fake it til you make it" time. I get the principles of operation but actual experience is a lot less. *sea story below* We'll see what the report says in a few years but this really seems like a perfect storm of bad circumstances. The holes in the Swiss cheese just happened to line up. It sucks but it happens. *One of the quals I had to get on the Truman was Officer of the Deck (in port). Essentially, you're HMFIC when the skipper is away. Now I knew nothing about carrier operations because all my experience was on smaller ships. One of the sign-offs was something to the effect of 'make decision and get ship underway in time of hurricane, national emergency, or as notified by CinC.' Me: I don't know much in this world but I know that the decision to move a multi-billion dollar warship carrying an airwing capable of toppling nations is not being made by me under any circumstance. Trainer: That's the job. Welcome to the Navy. Me: Bull****. You're telling me that POTUS could call me up and say "hey Chief, get that ship moving" or I can look out the window and be like "there a storm a brewin', we're blowing this joint"? Trainer: Well it doesn't work like that. Me: Really? Because it says "make decision to get ship underway and do it". Trainer: Well obviously there's going to be a call to/from an admiral or something. And you'll go find the most senior officer you can that actually knows how to drive the ship. Me: So I'm not the one making the decision and executing it. Trainer: Shut the **** up and sign it.

I watched that a few times. I can't see anything but I'm betting that's when they dropped the anchor as a last ditch attempt to change course.

Local reporting is that the vehicles on the bottom were associated with the work crew. I'm assuming either their work trucks or personal vehicles that they drove to the site.

It was subtle but I was actually being sarcastic about having an expert here. Apparently, we have at least someone close. I love ES.

Glad to see we have some experts on International Maritime Insurance Compensation policies in here. I was scared I might have to seek someone out.

Side note to my side note, as a witness to the event, what's written there is NOT what happened. We ran aground before the engines spun up. I know because I was replacing an aircraft tire at the time. The aircraft was on jacks so it staying level is a huge concern. That's why I was doing it while pulling into port. I set a socket down on its side and it rolled away. That was very concerning at the moment because I knew we weren't level. I got up and away from the aircraft because I didn't know what was happening. That's when the engines spun up but we just dug deeper into the mud.

Since everything in my past is new again, I went to school here. @Bang will probably tell you that in this area, I'm sure it's just under-reported.

Some additional credentials of mine, I was working on the flight deck when this happened. I've seen first hand what tugs can and can't do. Unrelated but I got an award from the Chief of Naval Operations for my actions here. This was after we back to Mayport, got repaired, and redeployed. https://www.history.navy.mil/research/histories/ship-histories/danfs/s/samuel-b--roberts--ffg-58--iii.html

This seems to happen enough that I'm starting to get concerned. 😂 Thank you for mansplaining tug boats to me. I had no idea. Tugs assist ships with their own power. It's a lot different than changing the course of a ship that size, at that speed, in that small of an area. Those tugs weren't stopping this. *the reported speed seems to be about 8 knots which is very fast for an area like that. Maybe the wind and tide also played a role? Also, I'm hearing the ship dropped anchor right before collision.

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Gonna be crazy when they find Epstein hiding at Diddy's place.

Yes. But my conclusions are based on experience. And I was too young and dumb to be as scared as I probably should have been.

Did he at least get an update?

I would avoid jumping to too many conclusions regarding the ship. Yes it is certainly possible the ship had issues. But this also happened on a highly-maintained, billion dollar warship. So there's that. The tug wasn't stopping that.

Way-too-early prediction time. The ship suffered a 'main bus one' casualty. That's essentially the circuit board for the entire ship. Either a fire that caused a malfunction or vice versa. You see power kick back on and the plum of smoke. That's the ship kicking over to 'main bus two', essentially the backup electric system and everything kicking back on. The fire/casualty took out bus two which is where you see the power go out a second time. The ship is essentially dead at that point. This exact thing happened when I was on the Chancellorsville. Luckily we were in the middle of the Pacific ocean so there wasn't much to hit. But we just floated for a couple days. No power except emergency battery operated lights around the ship. We slept on the flight deck at night because it was so hot.