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14 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Something that Jay Gruden said in a video posted earlier stood out to me a bit. He mentioned that Maye set and adjusted protections at the LoS based on what the defense was doing vs. Caleb and Daniels who looked to the sidelines.

 

Now, as I mentioned earlier, I pretty much ignore what Jay says about QBs, so I'm definitely not assuming he's correct about Caleb and Daniels (you can clearly see Maye setting protections and shifting them in his film, so I think he's correct there). But it's not something I paid a bunch of attention to when watching their tape. I was mostly washing Jayden's eyes, feet, etc. post snap.

 

But I'll watch again and see if it looks like Jay is correct or not. If he is, then that's actually a bit of a red flag for me. A QB with 5 years of starting experience isn't calling his own protections pre-snap? IF it ends up being likely true, then that could explain making good reads...he was told what they were.

 

But again, at the moment, since it's Jay, I'm actually going to assume he's incorrect and start from there and work backwards. 

I mean he does ask the sidelines for some info. I don’t know what it is but you can clearly see him on some plays looking for help from the sideline. Not sure it’s a big deal but it is indeed a data point. 
 

The way he reads defenses I don’t doubt he has the capacity to do it all by himself with some more reps, though. Last season was his first season playing in the same offense from the previous year. Like Maye you have to wonder what he can do with more time. 

2 hours ago, mistertim said:

 

That's only on Saturdays. Tomorrow we'll be good again.

 

Anyway, it's a fair point about the defenses being more complicated. However, at the end of the day, your scheme can only get you so far unless you have the horses to run it.

 

If you're running a cover 2 and you don't have the CBs with the skills to stick to their guys in a certain area, it won' matter how complicated your scheme is. They're gonna get beaten.

That’s the whole thing about him processing though. If he doesn’t know where the blitz is coming from and what coverage he is looking at then he is going to make mistakes. You don’t throw for 40/4 without being able to read the coverage. The teams he played against did a lot of post snap movement. Disgusting of looks. He did really well with that stuff. Yes a lot of it can be explained with simple “he had better WRs” but he had to read those coverages. It’s experience. It adds up. It’s why he was able to run far better this last season. He knew what looks to run into and what routs to run behind. He is a smart player. He was also on a very stacked team. Both can be true. 

2 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Yeah that's something that the whole "omg SEC defenses" thing misses. Even on good SEC defenses (or good defenses in general), there are probably only a couple of guys on that roster who will make it in the NFL. The NFL is a completely different beast.

 

In the NFL almost every defender is likely on par with the best player on a college defense. So even going against SEC defenses, you're facing lots of guys who will be bartenders or something a year from now.

 

IMO that's one of the reasons that having two elite studs like Nabers and Thomas on the same team is such a big deal. You can only stick your best DB on one of them. Which means at least one of those guys is going to smoke his defender.

The whole SEC defense thing is about the size and speed of the defenders AND the coverages they run. Less about individual talent and more about what the team is actually doing as a defense…..from my understanding. 
 

Who knows? I could be making it all up to confuse you since we are enemies now. 

7 minutes ago, bh32 said:

JD has also played 55 games in college which is a lot compared to Lamar Jackson's 38

The experience is a benefit not a detriment. It’s good he has so many snaps. It’s why he had a chance to fix his footwork before the NFL. He would have no future at all in the NFL if he couldn’t be an above average passer coming in. He would not last a season with his legs alone 

52 minutes ago, Warhead36 said:

I'm just trying to talk myself into Daniels by telling myself: anything I've seen I know for sure GMAP has seen x 100, and he also sees things I don't see.

 

I don't really have any doubts in GMAP. My worry is him being a first time GM he might succumb to the coaches wanting Daniels because he's more NFL ready, higher floor, and his style keeping D-Coordinators up at night.

Even Dan Quinn is saying it’s his decision and that GMAP has be breaking down film for him. I wouldn’t worry about him folding to someone else with his very first pick ever as GM. Doesn’t seem like the type to fold like that. 

2 minutes ago, CapsSkins said:

 

Yeah screw him, it's me and you brother 🤘

 

30 minutes ago, BatteredFanSyndrome said:

I’m trying to remember a time there was so much being said in the rumor mill.  My gut says the overwhelming majority of it is BS.  So many narratives being thrown at the wall, none of it sticks. 

I almost wonder how much of this is to get Daniels to drop. It’s a CONSPIRACY!!! 

1 hour ago, HoggLife said:

If durability wasnts an issue would you still be Maye>Daniels?

If Daniels was exactly the same as he is now but Mayes size he would probably be battling for 1st overall and not talking himself out of the top three. Same if Maye had his speed. 

1 minute ago, CommanderInTheRye said:

 

 

True, but if I were Jayden and I disagreed with what was done I would make my position crystal clear so there's not even a scintilla of doubt as to where I stand.

 

This could be done without openly chastising your representation by many methods.

 

The simplest one would have been to just issue a casual tweet Thursday morning, saying that he enjoyed his visit (whether true or not), thanking the Commanders for their hospitality, and stating plainly that he's excited to play football for whoever drafts him.

 

Issue over, no kerfuffle, the media cycle fir this story ends, and yhe talking heads go on to the next item on their agenda.

 

 

The simplest would just be to have your agent contact the Commanders and clear it up. 

@Panninho maybe it’s true 🤷🏽‍♂️

Breaking news guys! 
 

There you go. Essentially right from the horses mouth! 

28 minutes ago, mistertim said:

 

Man, this place is just savage today.

 

But I'm done trying to stick up for people. I tried to stick up for @Llevron and I didn't even get a stupid t-shirt out of it.

I got the stupid I’ll send you the shirt hahahahacrycrycryhahahahah

4 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

Surprised they didnt make a return when we signed Mariota....

They were colt fans specifically. He was a town hero for real and they loved him. Mariota as far as I know never had that kind of pull. Kinda glad he doesn’t lol

1 minute ago, mistertim said:

 

The Cult of Colt was a legit cult, man. That thread was straight up wild. The Heiny Hivers had nothing on them.

It was sad when they left honestly. 

I remember when we were swarmed by Hawaiians! For a back up lol

3 minutes ago, Voice_of_Reason said:

Nothing good ever comes of defending a blithering baffoon. 

Explains a lot about my life actually 

Just now, mistertim said:

Good lord, @Llevroncan't catch a break in here recently.    

Y’all don’t like people disagreeing with you lol. That ain’t a Llevron problem honestly 

2 minutes ago, Ghost of said:

JFC dude.  Yeah the reason Jason Campbell didn't work out was the fans on a message board. 

 

How did you read that into me saying I don’t wanna see y’all ****ing about him for a few years? That’s all I’m saying. 
 

This is what I mean by saying y’all read what y’all want. I never blamed the results of anyone’s career on a message board. What kind of sense would that even make? 

21 minutes ago, Going Commando said:

 

He uses these people as his mouthpiece.  His mom, his agent, his publicist, there is a clear pattern of them speaking for him when he doesn't want to get his own hands dirty.  The other two top QBs in the class have been no stranger to controversies and intense media speculation, why is Jayden the one who looks like his circle is a big problem?

 

The dude is such a horrible fit for this franchise and we all know it.  The only ones who are still lying to themselves about it are his cheerleaders in the media.  He needs to go to the Raiders.  An old, grizzled fan base on the East Coast won't put up with his act.  He is way too soft and too much of a diva to play in DC, NY, or New England.  He'll get eaten alive in those markets, not to mention he would greatly benefit from playing in a dome.

In all fairness his agent and publicist haven’t really said anything either. Everything people are upset about is perceived and interpreted through multiple other people (that we have previously called idiots and paid to make noise) and we are taking it and running with it. 
 

I haven’t seen anything from Jayden Daniels that says he is a horrible fit. I know a lot of you want it to be so, so it is. But I personally have no seen it. 
 

I follow all that by saying I don’t want him drafted here because I know what y’all will do his entire career and a few month of it is fun, a few years is draining. I don’t care if he is more talented, he doesn’t fit this fan base for sure and that’s enough for me. 

I wanna defend Jay Gruden for a day just to **** with y’all but I think I have used up all my political capital on publicity stunt gate. I have made mistakes this week. 🙁

None of this is new. If people don’t want to like a guy they are going to read into whatever they have to to justify that feeling. And then be loud about it. Hard to argue that isn’t human nature. 
 

Daniels is not the first guy this has happened to and he won’t be the last. He will have to deal with it. 

I know we have previously called these guys idiots but they also like Maye ALOT. Making all the comparisons y’all have made (which makes the idiot thing kinda funny) about John Allen. They like him better at reading defenses pre snap too, it sounds. They never say it but it sounds like they are a step away. They like everything we like about him. And they don’t call him a project. 
 

Just now, Warhead36 said:

I think once again yall are overthinking and looking too much and reading too much into these tweets. 

The kid himself has said and done literally nothing that’s the funny part. People are gonna hate him because of a bunch of **** other people have said about him. Reading into EVERY word on Twitter has never worked for anything 

4 minutes ago, zCommander said:

 

Yup nothing gets passed you. Does it? 

Et tu? We were brothers 

ima have to reach out to my publicist apparently 

5 hours ago, mistertim said:

 

 

"No damage control! No damage control! That's not damage control! No wai!! It's all about publicity! All publicity is good publicity! No damage control! You're nuts if you think they're doing damage control! NO DAMAGE CONTROL TO SEE HERE!"

This is clearly damage control and I know you see the difference between this and other tweets I ain’t THAT dumb. Am I?