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@NewCliche21 Did you really just evoke Casey Rabach? In this house? 

How. Dare. You. How dare you? How??

8 minutes ago, mhd24 said:

 

 

Dak was a near MVP last year while Hurts was in the super bowl two years ago.  Kirk is coming off an Achilles injury and going to a new team.  I think Dak & Hurts are comfortably ahead of Kirk due to all those factors.

How he comes back from his achilles is the only factor here for me. I'm comfortable putting Kirk above both of them, even on his new team, outside of that. He is just better than both of them imo. Hurts I think can possibly be a more athletic version of him. Dak is too turnover prone to compete imho. I have not dived into analytics to prove this. We don't have to fight that hard. Just my possibly uneducated opinion on it. 

But you aint gonna get me of all people on here defending Kirk Cousins lol

7 minutes ago, mhd24 said:

To me, the schedule is always about the opposite QBs.  Here's who we face:

 

Elite (Tier 1):

Burrow (away)

Lamar (away)

 

Very Good (Tier 2):

Dak (x2)

Hurts (x2)

 

Good (Tier 3):

Kirk (home)

 

Average (Tier 4):

Carr (away)

Baker (away)

Watson (home)

Kyler (away)

 

Below Average (Tier 5):

Wilson (home)

Jones (x2)

 

Unknown (Tier 6):

Caleb (home)

Levis (home)

Bryce (home)

 

 

I think this is the correct way to think about it. A few notes though:

• We play Cinnci early and Burrow is a notoriously slow starter. Win for us imo
• You have Kirk as just good? Think he is too low. Maybe the team is just good but I think he is every bit as good as Dak and Hurts, probably better. 
• I don't trust Wilson and the stealers. I know Wilson is not the same and never will be. But neither him nor Tomlin should be seen as walks. Ever. 

3 hours ago, KDawg said:

I don’t know. I think you kinda can take away a lot of it if it’s true.

 

If a coach is always on you, doesn’t design things for you, puts you late in progression and makes you second guess yourself… it’s extremely difficult to play well for a young player.

 

You can say, “he needs to get through that…” and I’d agree. But these guys are human.

 

If he doesn’t improve this year, then ya, it’s a Jahan problem. The proof will show itself. 

I think people see guys like Terry and think "If he can do it so can the other guy" or something like that. And not realize it is very difficult to be the best version of yourself if you are off mentally and how much bad leadership can really just **** up the moral to the point that its impossible for people to function at their best. 

Terry was in a funk himself last season too btw. You could see it physically on him just how we walked. None of them were the same. 

10 minutes ago, Koolblue13 said:

I've lived in LKBs head long enough.

Once my man started counting I knew it was serious hahaha

Awww i didnt want you to actually do it lol 

The coaches I think will fix it. 

Also, and I don't know if you know this @Koolblue13, but people have noticed the way you spell Randell and kinda rubbing people the wrong way....

5 minutes ago, clskinsfan said:

I think Dotson just had a case of the Sophomore blues. He was solid in his rookie season. I would expect a nice jump in productivity from him this season. 

https://twitter.com/AroundTheNFL/status/1790729091752046921

He specifically said he didn't feel like himself that last season and you could look at it and see it. I honestly think it was just bad coaching, low moral and knowing none of this was going anywhere. Guys like Terry, who can see the writing on the wall and play hard anyway, are rare. Not that its a good excuse, mind you. He cant do it again. But thats what it looked like to me. 

2 hours ago, clskinsfan said:

People flipping out about a frikin feather. Whatever.

Right? Crazy out of character for this fan base! 

16 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

 

Yeah the article clearly comes off that this was Peters guy by a mile.  But he wanted to see if the anayltics and scouting department agreed with him.

 

I think though it became a bit over the top on the QB thread about the analytics community preferring Maye where it wasn't really that clear to me on that front that there was a major distinction.  The PFF guys specifically preferred Maye but they also said its a tough call, they had the two close.  The Football Outsiders guy preferred Daniels by a good margin.  And Warren Sharp also preferred Daniels by a good margin.  

 

The main stat some were hung up on was pressure to sack.  But the irony for that was Maye and Daniels number on that front last year was almost identical.  The thing is though Daniels number was a bit inflated on that front factoring context because blowing up designed runs in the backfield counted as sack to pressure.  Also I read somewhere that Daniels had one of the best stats as for not losing many yards on the sacks -- so those sacks were rarely egregious sacks.

That is exactly my argument against the emphasis put on the stat and why I thought it was good information, but lacking context. He was obviously going to take sacks at a higher rate. He had an option the other guys didn’t and he was told to use it. All that said, he only had 22 last season. 

45 minutes ago, Skinsinparadise said:

I posted more from this article in the FO thread

 

Adam Peters didn't tell many people inside the Washington Commanders organization what he planned to do with the second pick of the 2024 NFL Draft until after the draft actually began. By then, no one was surprised that he was selecting LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels.

The surprise was that nobody seemed to disagree.

"I can't remember the last time there wasn't some fighting about a draft pick," said a source in the Commanders organization, "or at least some griping behind each other's backs.

"Things sure feel different around here now."

 

....For example, when Harris bought the Commanders, he made it a priority to beef up the analytics department, hiring Eugene Shen as the senior vice president of football strategy about three months before he hired Peters. Peters, according to a team source, has leaned on the new department heavily, but not at the expense of good, old-fashioned scouting.

The choice of Daniels, he said, was made in large part because of what he saw on film. Peters said Daniels jumped to the head of the pack the first time he watched him and thought "I honestly couldn't believe how good he was." But he then worked with the analytics department and the scouts, according to a team source, to help confirm his choice, without ever truly revealing a preference.

That was different too. It appears that Peters' inner circle on the most important decision of his tenure so far was limited to Quinn, Harris, and Bob Myers, the front office consultant who previously ran the NBA's Golden State Warriors. Others, like offensive coordinator Kliff Kingsbury, were brought in along the way, according to a team source, and at least told which way Peters was leaving.

 

But many others — including key members of Harris' ownership group — weren't told until the morning of the draft. And most of the front office and scouting department weren't told until the Chicago Bears were on the clock for the first overall pick.

That prevented leaks, which in previous years had been prevalent. Some in the organization even thought Peters might have been leaning towards Michigan quarterback J.J. McCarthy, who reportedly was his second choice. But just as importantly, it gave a chance for almost everyone involved in the process to weigh in, to feel they were a valued part of it, instead of going through the motions while assuming Peters had already made up his mind.

 

"It's having an aligned vision," Peters said. "(It's) having collaboration, having inclusion with everybody, everybody pulling in the same direction. That's how we did it in San Francisco and that's what allows you to get through, not just the good times, but that's what allows you to get through the tough times as well."

Again, none of that is a revolutionary approach. Collaboration, building a culture, changing the thinking is the goal of every new GM that steps in and tries to overhaul a flailing franchise.

But it feels especially new in Washington, where chaos and controversy ruled for far too long. It was a place where for too often it seemed like decisions were made simply to plug holes so the people in charge could stop the ship from sinking, or maybe just save themselves.

 

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/adam-peters-reshaping-football-in-washington

It’s very interesting to me that Peters used the Analytics department to confirm his choice (without telling them who he was leaning toward, thus removing the bias of pleasing the boss) and it was Daniels they landed on. 
 

Interesting to me mostly because the online analytics community around the NFL was crowing about a few stats in particular that they thought made him basically untouchable. I wish I could ask Shen for details. Clearly they either valued different numbers or had different numbers entirely. 

19 minutes ago, KDawg said:

I’m so confused. There are people who watched Daniels play and thought he sucked? I can’t figure out how you watch his film and think he was a bad player or wasn’t worthy of a top pick from a skills perspective. Dude has elite speed. 
 

I want to see if he can be durable. Otherwise  I don’t have many questions… other than he’s #5.

I think a lot of it was the perceived attitude stuff. All the signs, if you wanted to read them that way, could have pointed to him being RGMe all over again. 
 

People forget the drafting process is intentionally deceitful, I think. And once you get a rooting interest it’s really hard to just be fair and open minded about it. 

1 hour ago, WashingtonRedWolves said:

...... Nabers has to deal with the dumpster fire that is danny dimes ........

I feel like his leadership style is just to out work everyone in the building and see who wants to come with him. I hope thats correct im sure there is a lot of projecting of my own going into me thinking that. But i hope thats correct. 

Ok I know this will come off like im messing around. But are his knees just a freaky to anyone as his creepy ass elbow was?? 

I don't know who this Yankoff character is but he has to make the team. And in a few years we will do the world a favor and trade him to ATL. 

I wanna see him and Dak do this competitively. Like, hyper adrenaline fueled raged filled competition. To the death. Would make a great Old Spice commercial. 

Tress Way is a cool dude 

It’s a job and he paid for it 

If no money is exchanged and it never is, they should be fine. You cant suspend people for talking about it. 

If they exchanged 10k, especially after this because you KNOW they are getting it from the organizations now, then they ****ing deserve it. 

Galdi says that someone from Over The Cap tracks roster turnover and specifically the % of players from a team that the next season are out of the NFL and we are dead last in the NFL. 

Specifically, if he is correct, 27% of our roster last season is out of the NFL entirely. That says nothing about the coaches who will never coach again. I have been saying for years that everyone in the NFL is talented. Surprise! I was wrong again lol 

I cant find the post or whatever it is he is talking about. But he talks about it here. 

Still sending whats his face a ring if we get it though. 

4 minutes ago, redskinss said:

 

The big difference being that in the pocket quarterbacks are protected like box turtles on a construction site.

Running through the backfield they're fair game.

Most of the vicious hits he took were when he was running wild and the one big one he took in the pocket drew a flag.

Yea -im willing to bet- vicious hits don't lead to injury nearly as often as being crunched up in the pocket and having your foot stuck under one guy and your body going the other direction. Those really are the dangerous ones. The rules help sure, but there is no rule about multiple 300 pound washing machines landing on you at the same time. But we all get the point - dude has to stay healthy and avoid contact when he can. 

There is an argument to be made about being hit by DBs down field in less traffic versus being hit in the pocket by BigFats where all the other BigFats are and how its probably not so safe in the pocket. But we all get the point - dude has to stay healthy and avoid contact when he can. 

I think a more fun argument is the best way to do that ^^^ is by diagnosing coverage quickly, allowing the ball to get out of your hands faster, and before the BigFats can get to your skinny little legs and crunchy bits. That's what Brady did so well. It wasn't staying in the pocket, it was getting the ball out before they had any reason to get that close to you. Jayden was good at this last season....better than his competition. Its part of why he was pressured so little. I am hoping he can further refine that part of his game. If not he's probably cooked in a few years anyway. 

7 hours ago, Conn said:

🚨 BREAKING NEWS 🚨 

 

he has put the hat back on, we’re all safe

Hat was backwards for 90% of that too. Dude is fully bought in!!1