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We probably dodged a bullet with Ben Johnson. He is obviously not secure in his ability to run a team as a HC.. He is the next Josh Mcdaniels

That doesnt make sense... if he was the HC here.. you dont think him saying "i dont want this guy at #2" wouldn't carry any weight with FO?

Harris and Peters really fudged the pooch on this one eh? the number 1 vacancy option and we are left to sort through the trash no one else wanted? You're telling me they didn't know the roundpark figure of what Ben Johnson wanted before Det got kicked out of playoffs??? I'd be OK with Vrabel though

How you doin... Dan Quinn?

The most you can get in a trade is 3 future 1st rd picks i believe. But lets say someone does make a godfather offer with multitude of pics and players. I would be ok with trading for Fields for high 3rd or maybe 3, 5 as a reclamation project and drafting a QB or two mid first and later in the draft if you like them. Depending on what system Peters and Johnson decide to install.. if we follow the 49er model.. you could plug in any decent QB with high end results.

yeah .. thats what got Vikings in to trouble... they were 13-3 in 2017 with Sam (freaking) Bradford and Case Keenum thinking was.." well we have a stacked roster, 'Kurt' will get us over the edge"... in 2018 they went 8-7-1 with Cousins, 2019 10-6, etc

oh god... I pray this happen! pretty please with cherry on top!

also water is wet

i saw him serving drinks at starbucks the other day.. he managed to get my order wrong

good thing you're not the GM then

agreed... Fields is not the answer. Also with recent changes to the NFL... a backup qb is a very important commodity and requires a highly skilled qb (just below starter quality) as there is a very good chance he will play in multiple games per season Issue is for backup QB you want: 1. Experienced veteran that can help a rookie learn a new system, be a sounding board, show how to prepare for games, etc. Sam is too new and inexperienced to help in this way. 2. Be good enough to win games in a pinch Sam at this point is not a good backup QB.. at best he is a #3. Now he might learn and get better and actually become a starting QB at some point, he has the tools. But the way he finished, i am not sure I can trust him to come in and win a game. I would love to keep Brisset, not sure we will though.

I actually use Ron for drafting.. for every player i am interested in, i ask myself... "what would Ron do?" .. and then do the opposite.

i dont see it. Most NFL execs aren't "that" dumb (sorry Ron) Howell played like a 5th rd pick. If he gets an opportunity to start due to an inj sometime down the line for at least 5 games and balls out.. there might be a little interest. Look at Baker.. drafted #1, had one bad season and could barely find a job last year. From what ive seen over the last 5 games, he is not even Minshew quality at this point.

i wouldnt mind Martindale as DC now that he jumped ship in NY

i think its his only good pick.... even then he did his best to screw it up by playing him at RT for a year

I actually think his contract stipulates that he has to give back 1mil for every loss.... pretty sure he is broke🥲

...possibly working at McDonalds as it wont be anywhere close to professional football. .. and keep your hands off my fries Ron!!

his firing cant come soon enough! good riddance.. Ron might actually be the worst GM/HC this team has EVER had. Cant think of a single positive he brought to this team or a single intelligent decision.

the Wilsons ego .. he is not going anywhere to be a backup.. i think he retires

lol.. well now apparently everyone sees what i was saying for the last 2 years.. that Ron is an idiot. The level of mismanagement of personnel, draft, talent and scheme over the last few years is borderline criminal. I wouldn't trust him to cut my lawn. The ONE thing he is good at is LOOSING... and now he cant go back to Howell no matter what. which means we have a good shot of winning one of the next few games and knocking us out of the top 5 pick range for a real qb. He is the first person i know to fnck up loosing!

if Rivera doesnt do something stupid like install Brisset the starter we should still get a top 5 pick. Sam is a back up, hes gotten plenty of time to show what he's got... and he has shown he has a looong way to go. But a cheap backup is not a bad deal

How this incompetent moron Rivera gets to hold on to the hc job this long is beyond me! Im beginning to think Harris isn’t much smarter than Snyder.

umm... Wilson, Stafford and Eli are all franchise QBs. Foles and Flaco won on fully stacked teams and in the old NFL.. they would not have won in todays NFL. Can you win with a fully stacked team and an above avg QB today.. probably, but we are a lot farther from a fully stacked team, than from one Franchise QB

I don't get paid enough (or at all) to make that determination. Both QBs have put enough on tape to be considered upper level talent at the most important position in the NFL but i am not advocating for either one. Are you guarantied to hit on a QB in the top 5? no.. see how quickly Tepper turned on his coach and GM when they obviously made the wrong QB pick. But that your best shot at finding a franchise QB and a franchise QB can turn your team around in the same season with good coaching even if the talent around him is nothing special. 1. You hire a very good GM and HC 2. You let them rate current QB talent and draft talent. 3. If they determine that there is an incredibly talented QB in the top 5 and your pic is close... you try to trade up or make the QB pic. Ultimately if i am looking for a QB to lead my team he has to hit these checkboxes. - mobile - strong arm - intelligent and quick decision maker - Big _6'3-6'5 If he does not meet all the above checks, he will be at disadvantage in the NFL (no matter how accurate, quick, smart he is).. the odds will be stacked against him in todays NFL And if you miss on the QB.. fine, you try again next year.. you have the rest of your draft class to hit on other players but if your team is at least semi average you wont be picking in the top 5 again for a while, and the cost of trading up from lets say 12 to 2 is enormously high

That's the kind of thinking that got us where we are now. If you're picking in the top 5 pics and you don't have a set franchise QB, and one with that potential is available.. you take that QB and build a team around him. With proper coaching and some FAs this team can be rebuild pretty quick.. at least on the O side.