nonniey

So I guess the answer is no you didn't read it.

I see some are still stuck in their 2 minutes (Emmanuel Goldstein -1984 reference). Did you even read the article?

Well since I guess i was too clever by half in my last post (no one seemed to get the reference). I'll post this interesting article I found to clarify it. The Week: How Twitter could be the death of liberal democracy: https://theweek.com/articles/818951/how-twitter-could-death-liberal-democracy "This has been a deeply demoralizing week for American media and democratic culture — one with implications that may well point to something far worse. First, on Thursday night, Buzzfeed published a sensational scoop alleging that President Trump suborned the perjury of his former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen. As dozens of reputable media outlets and many more media personalities on Twitter pronounced over the following day, this was an act that if true would be a very big deal. The unverified character of the allegation did nothing to keep a slew of commentators from suggesting that the president was now on the verge of facing near-certain impeachment and removal from office for his crimes. Yet on Friday night, the story suffered a severe body blow when Special Counsel Robert Mueller's office issued a sweeping statement disputing its accuracy. Then, on Saturday, a video appeared on Twitter purporting to show a group of high schoolers confronting and mocking an elderly Native American protestor and Vietnam veteran while wearing MAGA hats at Friday's pro-life March for Life in Washington. By early Saturday afternoon, this video had inspired frantic spasms of denunciation on Twitter — of the indisputably racist teenagers, of their obviously bigoted Catholic school in Kentucky, of the transparently misogynistic and hate-filled pro-life movement, and indeed of anyone who dares to wear a MAGA hat in public. The main teenager featured in the video was treated as the face of entitled white supremacy, his smile (or smirk) as he faced the counter-protester serving as proof that he is the direct successor to the bigots who stood against the Civil Right Movement. Even after longer, fuller videos of the confrontation emerged, showing that the import of the event was far less clear-cut than the initial hot takes assumed, the tweet-mob continued to eviscerate the high schoolers, pronouncing their faces worthy of a good punch. Neither of these events is very important in the grand scheme of things. The former will either be vindicated or buried by the report Mueller eventually files about possible collusion between the 2016 Trump campaign and elements of the Russian government. The latter will be lost and forgotten under a mountain of other outrages that will continue to convulse the country through the Trump era and beyond. Yet both are indicative of something ominous that's happening to our political culture. Extreme partisan polarization is combining with the technology of social media, and especially Twitter, to provoke a form of recurrent political madness among members of the country's cultural and intellectual elite. And that madness, when combined with the rising extremism of the populist right, is pushing the country toward a dangerously illiberal forms of politics........"

Nicholas Sandmann? I thought they said his name was Emmanuel Goldstein?

I said really hurt them I used the adjective for a reason. Pleaseblitz boiled it down accurately. BTW this doesn't make me happy in the least.

Yep that is an issue.

Well that could really hurt them in Maryland and Virginia.

Mrs. and I went to a retirement job training seminar produced, directed and starred in by Clint Eastwood. Damned good production but think we may pass on that line of work.

Well if his resignation is on the table wouldn't you be willing to give the full 25 billion?

Let me clarify right now they believe it would be political suicide to override the President, at some point if this goes on into 2020 they'll be free to do what they want because they will come to the conclusion that they are already dead anyway and won't have to worry about bucking the President.

I think the impasse will break when Mueller's report gets published. If there are major impeachable offenses Trumps position will collapse if their aren't the Dems will fold. (i'm good with either outcome).

I'm not sure - problem is with the Trump base they demonstrated in this last election they will sit out on candidates they don't like (What they call RINOs) and throw the seat to the Democrat (McSally perfect example) - it is political suicide for the 2020 Senators if the Senate overrides the veto. They may just have to come to the determination of heck going to lose anyway in 2020 so this is what I want to do. So this can go for a very long time.

Maybe but was just asking how long the Dems would be willing to hold out? I take it your answer is until January 2021 if necessary?

Question how much longer would you be willing to take it before giving the 6 Billion?

One thing you've got to give Trump is that he blessed with his enemies.

Line 1 - Addressed in my post. Lines 2-3 -You're pitching softballs. Line 4 - Idiot hardliners in the house.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-giant-symbol-in-fight-over-trumps-wall-democrats-who-once-supported-a-border-barrier-now-oppose-it/2018/01/05/b6441602-f18f-11e7-b390-a36dc3fa2842_story.html?utm_term=.72cabd386ef2

No money for walls - what does it mean? Trump has multiple constituencies one them is the alt-right/racists. I would say the "Wall" is the most important issue to that group, however other groups buy into it as well. The Dems have taken the position that since the racists want a wall, building a wall is racist and have staked their opposition to building walls on the border on principal. Okay here is the problem - we already have walls on the border, they are just tools within the overall toolkit used for border security. We have spent money building them on the border for years but given finite resources, priorities and requirements they don't exist everywhere. Will the Dems opposition create a position that walls can't be built or used in that toolkit anymore? What frustrates me is confronting the President over the wrong issues. Confronting him over methods to stem illegal border crossings? That is what they planted their flag on? There are far bigger and more important issues to stake everything on than a single method (From a wider toolkit) that is used for border control.

Well if you have more than 10 bullets don't you need a gun if you want to use them? What is the point to have bullets in the first place if you don't have a gun?☺️

Too many poo poo the detrimental effects of Marijuana. Usually the response is that alcohol is worse (and Hitler murdered more than Stalin is not a good argument to make if defending Stalin).

The Sun: ....spiders ‘rain’ from the sky in Brazil leaving terrified residents running for cover https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8187625/spiders-rain-sky-brazil-

Are there any that still post in Tail Gate? They are usually quickly run off. You'll just have to be satisfied with Never Trumper's -me and reluctant voters for Trump- TWA. Well in a pinch there is always Trythebeal who may be the only regular Tail Gate poster who enthusiastically voted for Trump.

That's a good point. The way it was posted did hit a trip-wire for me but maybe I need to cut this particular report a bit of slack.

I said it was a soap box issue of mine and it certainly is not limited to the left - This is a favorite method used by right wing talk radio as well.