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thats how the MLB package worked when i looked into it last year. there are work arounds where you pay a few bucks a month for an IP in some other part of the country (or some other country). i havent done it, but i'm sure it works.

I'll never understand why people put crap like that on a public forum, creating a permanent, traceable record of their ****ed up, bigoted beliefs. Concentration camp jokes? Good grief. People are dumb.

we agree that the media, in general, dont really care about police conduct. i think we probably agree that what they really care about, generally speaking, is making money. which is why they pick stories they know will get attention. i think we disagree that people don't care. but i think we are defining 'care' differently. people tend to have strong opinions about police shootings, both pro police, and anti police. white supremacists, i'm pretty sure, are interested in the topic too, even if they dont actually care about minorities.

i dont disagree. not a bit. you said the media doesnt care. i am wondering how you are defining media.

what Des is saying is that there are topics that generate clicks. the internet is basically all click/ad revenue driven. police shooting unarmed black men gets people fired up (on both sides). thats why those stories are pushed to the front of the news feed. when you say 'the media', how do you define that? cnn, cbs, fox, abc, nbc, newspapers?

Well done. Almost spit my coffee out.

i go 50 bucks riding on gordon ramsey. 2 to 1 odds.

i gotcha. i think you are talking about specific incidents of violence that may not be actual rape and i was talking about rape. i agree that the meaning of violence, or rape is the key. the CDC study uses a very liberal definition as opposed to the BJS survey.

the links i posted above touched in this. one point of difference, for example, was that drunk sex, apparently, counted as sexual assault. or, if you were lied to in order to convince you to have sex, or if you got tired of being asked to have sex, so you gave in.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv16.pdf cant quote the page, but its page 5 on the report. they list 'rape or sexual assault' as 1.2 per 1,000, which is obviously not close to 19 in 100. i dont know what numbers are more accurate. its just interesting how they are so far apart.

the bureau of justice statistics disputes it. i think the definition of sexual assault is the issue. from the post article- "Instead of such straightforward questions, the CDC researchers described a series of sexual encounters and then they determined whether the responses indicated sexual violation. A sample of 9,086 women was asked, for example, “When you were drunk, high, drugged, or passed out and unable to consent, how many people ever had vaginal sex with you?” A majority of the 1.3 million women (61.5 percent) the CDC projected as rape victims in 2010 experienced this sort of “alcohol or drug facilitated penetration.” What does that mean? If a woman was unconscious or severely incapacitated, everyone would call it rape. But what about sex while inebriated? Few people would say that intoxicated sex alone constitutes rape — indeed, a nontrivial percentage of all customary sexual intercourse, including marital intercourse, probably falls under that definition (and is therefore criminal according to the CDC). Other survey questions were equally ambiguous. Participants were asked if they had ever had sex because someone pressured them by “telling you lies, making promises about the future they knew were untrue?” All affirmative answers were counted as “sexual violence.” Anyone who consented to sex because a suitor wore her or him down by “repeatedly asking” or “showing they were unhappy” was similarly classified as a victim of violence. The CDC effectively set a stage where each step of physical intimacy required a notarized testament of sober consent." so, theres the CDC survey, and the bureau of justice statistics survey, and they appear to be at odds (by alot). nearly 20% of women raped vs 1 or 2% is a big difference. (its actually 1.2 per 1,000, or .0012% per the link below) "So why the massive disparities between these numbers? Partly, it’s because the CDC and Justice Department reports have different goals. While the NCVS simply seeks to record the incidence of crimes across the country, the CDC approaches sexual assault as a public health issue. That affected the kinds of questions the surveys used to determine which respondents were rape victims." https://newrepublic.com/article/119364/cdcs-report-one-five-women-raped-other-statistics-disagree whats weird is how what study one finds credible seems to come down to political affiliation. i know the post opinion is a more conservative woman (i think, anyway) but time and new republic arent conservative. other left leaning outlets seem to think the CDC study is more accurate.

Having trouble posting from my phone but I think those numbers may be problematic. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/cdc-study-on-sexual-violence-in-the-us-overstates-the-problem/2012/01/25/gIQAHRKPWQ_story.html?utm_term=.c35b6cc8cdc CDC study on sexual violence in the U.S. overstates the problem By Christina Hoff SommersJanuary 27, 2012Loaded in 0.89 seconds Christina Hoff Sommers is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. Her books include “Who Stole Feminism?” and “The War Against Boys.” The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently released a study suggesting that rates of sexual violence in the United States are comparable to those in the war-stricken Congo. How is that possible? The CDC’s National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey found that, in the United States in 2010, approximately 1.3 million women were raped and an additional 12.6 million women and men were victims of sexual violence. It reported, “More than 1 in 3 women and 1 in 4 men have experienced rape, physical violence and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime.” Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebeliushailed the report for giving “a clear picture of the devastating impact these violent acts have on the lives of millions of Americans.”In fact, what the study reveals is the devastating impact that careless advocacy research can have on truth. The report proposes an array of ambitious government-sponsored “prevention strategies” and recommends “multi-disciplinary service centers” offering survivors psychological and legal counseling as well as housing and economic assistance. But survivors of sexual violence would be better served by good research and sober estimates — not inflated statistics and sensationalism. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/3393442/cdc-rape-numbers The CDC study—the second in two years—seems to support a radical feminist narrative that has been gaining mainstream attention recently: that modern America is a “rape culture” saturated with misogynistic violence. But a closer look at the data, obtained from telephone surveys done in 2011, yields a far more complex picture and raises some surprising question about gender, victimization, and bias.

Where is that stat from, Des? (I've heard a similar one regarding women in college, but I'm not sure if this is the same one you're talking about)

We can debate some of these shootings, but this one was about as unambiguous as they come. If it wasn't videotaped, he gets off no question.

Can you expound on this?

I agree with a lot of that. I'm wondering though if you see that many white people are afraid to say anything against a POC for fear of being called a racist? (I'm totally comfortable talking about race, btw)

Its a bit of a hellish, lonely existence. But, I think it's a group that appears to be growing. One can hope, at least.

What does Soros actually fund?

Adams is a trained hypnotist and studies persuasion techniques. He says basically that Trump is a master manipulator and that the outrageous things he says are ways to manipulate the audience. Trump attended a church lead by a minister named Norman Vincent Peale, who wrote "the power of positive thinking". Some criticism of the book- "A second major accusation of Peale is that he attempted to conceal that his techniques for giving the reader absolute self-confidence and deliverance from suffering are a well known form of hypnosis, and that he attempts to persuade his readers to follow his beliefs through a combination of false evidence and self-hypnosis (autosuggestion), disguised by the use of terms which may sound more benign from the reader's point of view ("techniques", "formulas," "methods," "prayers," and "prescriptions."). One author called Peale's book "The Bible of American autohypnotism."[6]:264" Here's an example - http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/09/14/i-explain-the-persuasion-president-trump-is-using-on-the-wall-and-daca/ ies to ensure you get the best experience on our website.MORE INFO GOT IT! MenuSearch SCOTT ADAMS' BLOG I Big First Demand: A good negotiator starts with an aggressive first demand so there is plenty of room to negotiate toward the middle. President Trump started his campaign promising to deport every undocumented immigrant. That first offer was so extreme that he has plenty of room to negotiate toward a reasonable center, such as allowing DACA folks to stay.

Definitely agree about the Trump obsession. The more I observe, the more I think Scott Adams is onto something.

That story is odd. How does that happen? Am I just not a sadist?

i hope youre right, but i'm not really sure you are.

i think this is a point of disagreement with sacks (he'll correct me if i'm misunderstanding). your reasoning is saying correlation is causation- he was protected, and he happens to be white, therefore white privilege.

Regarding sexual exploitation, cover ups and race, you should read about the Rotherham sex scandal. Its incredible. "From the late 1980s until the 2010s, organised child sexual abuse continued almost unchallenged by legal authorities[14]in the northern English town of Rotherham, South Yorkshire" "The failure to address the abuse was attributed to a combination of factors revolving around race, class and gender—contemptuous and sexist attitudes toward the mostly working-class victims; fear that the perpetrators' ethnicity would trigger allegations of racism and damage community relations; the Labour council's reluctance to challenge a Labour-voting ethnic minority; lack of a child-centred focus; a desire to protect the town's reputation; and lack of training and resources.[30][31][14]"

i dont disagree that theres currently more of an emphasis on the subject of sexual assault, but i dont agree that thats the reason its been downplayed or overlooked in the past. its human nature to do this when its 'our' guy.