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Turner must put Carson into the best situation for what he does best. I'd say that letting him be him within the scheme will pay out. Let's do what Engineers do when finding answers and go to the end and work back (August 11, 2016): Carson Wentz: Strengths and weaknesses through the first two weeks of training camp. (8.11.2016) https://www.phillyvoice.com/carson-wentz-strengths-and-weaknesses-through-first-two-weeks-training-camp/ Strengths Strengths • Size: At 6'5, 237, Wentz is the biggest of the Eagles' quarterbacks, and has prototypical size for the position in the NFL. • Arm Strength: Again, of the Eagles' quarterbacks, there's little question that Wentz has the strongest arm of the group. He delivers deep passes with ease and can put the ball on a line on intermediate throws. • Athleticism: There is a wide gap between Wentz and the other Eagles' quarterbacks here. Wentz is a threat to run. He can escape the pocket and hurt you with his legs. While you won't see him barrel over defensive backs in a training camp setting since hitting the quarterback is off limits, that's a part of his game as well. • Aggressiveness: By far, Wentz has taken more shots down the field than either Bradford or Daniel. Taking risks isn't necessarily a strength unless you're actually producing big plays, and in fact can be a negative if those risks are producing turnovers. However, I'm of the belief that the quarterback has to be able to make difficult throws down the field to be successful in this league, so for now, we'll chalk up Wentz's willingness to let it rip as a strength. • Making throws while climbing the pocket: When he senses the outside pass rush closing in, Wentz does a great job climbing the pocket while maintaining his vision. Typically, when quarterbacks are forced to quickly move up in the pocket, their vision will narrow to the middle of the field, making them less likely to make throws to the sideline. Wentz, however, still uses the entire field when he steps up in the pocket. He can contort his body on the run and throw sideline to sideline. That puts the defense in a difficult spot. They'll have to respect his running ability while still covering the entire field. • Improvisation: I've been impressed by Wentz's ability to make something out of nothing. For example, there have been a few occasions in which he's fielded a shotgun snap off the ground, popped up, and quickly delivered a completed a pass, when other quarterbacks might have been content to just jump on the ball or try to get outside the tackle box and throw it away. • Throwing on the run: This is where Wentz has made some "wow" plays during camp, and I believe it's because he's stopped thinking momentarily and is just playing on instinct. Wentz can throw with velocity while going to his right or left. He's not always pinpoint accurate while on the run (as most quarterbacks aren't), but there's big play potential here. Weaknesses • Consistent accuracy: Wentz has often been inaccurate during training camp. When he is off, he is most commonly overthrowing his receivers, missing them high. Doug Pederson attributed that to mechanics, timing, and not yet completely seeing what he's supposed to be seeing. In other words, when Wentz has a more solid grasp of where his receivers will be and what opposing defenses are trying to do to him, the thinking is that Wentz will settle in and become more accurate like he mostly was at North Dakota State. But for now, improvement in this area is clearly needed. • The wobble: Wentz's passes have often wobbled. They still get there, but the wobble makes them more difficult to catch. When the weather becomes harsher, wobbly footballs are more prone to dying in the wind. Again, this is not something Wentz did much in college. Pederson attributed it to Wentz not yet being fully being up to speed mentally and believes the wobble will wane. • Locking in: There have been times when Wentz will zero in on a receiver, allowing the defense to anticipate where he's going with the football.

Mills was probably feeling disrespected with Sapp and Kerrigan getting attention for doing his job and there was a confrontation somewhere. This is the type of firing that happens after a blowout.

Team should take Wentz out and loosen him up. Team Building Wentz can take Command

Hamstring injuries are adding up with several players dealing with this training camp menace. Healing time is minimum 2 weeks (10 days to be exact) for the most superficial tear. Even slightly more than superficial adds a week or more. Grade 2 hammy is 6-8 weeks. That's the kind of tear when you see bruising (blood) at the affected site. With a month left until the games count, all the current hamstring guys can be ready.

I saw him working out and read about his rehab. He's had no setbacks and is squatting heavy weight since June. He's not wearing a brace or sleeve which points towards a focus on strengthening. He's a freak athlete. I've trained some freaks and would never believe what I saw them do. If I had to guess, I'd say he starts on the PUP and plays week 5 or 6 at the latest. There's a athletic freak asterisk that could have him come off the PUP and start practicing and be inactive for the first couple of games but I think they'll hold him back.

Not really. Since everyone who was hurt last year is still hurt, plus plenty more, you're still hoping to get healthy. Team has major injury issues from last year that are unresolved. Fact is they don't have a LT yet for their new QB. They don't have the starting C. The replacement for the All-Pro has a split down the middle of his quad. Lose 1 of your 3 mediocre at best LB'ers and then what? They're facing drastically improved pass rushes Weeks 1 and 2. Then division rivals Weeks 3 and 4. They have the WORST bye week 14. In Weeks 10, 13, 16 and 18, Washington's opponent will have a three-day rest/prep advantage because they'll be in the Thursday night tilt for the previous set of games while RR's side will have suited up on the ensuing Sunday. Not reaching 8 wins is the Under. Line at 7.5 is correct. That's fair. He could get on a roll and gain some confidence. Winning the opener is huge.

Since this is a QB thread, I'd say the odds makers are being conservative and there's more momentum on the Over due to Wentz creating a wider variation in the upside. The O/U line is likely meant to entice fans into over optimistic opinions before any games are played. Additionally there's a false perception of an easy schedule with WSH playing multiple short week games vs teams with long weeks. There's a good chance another RR slow start is incoming with starters all over the roster injured, a new QB, and failure to address 3rd down defense. Looks like a correct betting line.

OL use the shoulder pads to hold on at the center and gain leverage. Pads even things out for DL vs OL. Edge/Speed rushers don't have the same issues.

I want a forfeit. It's dumb to play guys you can't afford to loose after a couple of days in pads.

RR walks into the trainers office and asks Al how everything is going... Trainer says well, we're out of TE's, you shipped out an All-Pro RG for a guy with 1-leg, and now you want everyone to go 100% hot in a game after 2 weeks of drills. I'm going to need more duct tape!

Since April 1, 2022 when the Commanders drafted Jahan Dotson.

Pre-Season Game 1 and everyone is going to play! Not sure how smart that is. Quiet a risk.

That's a valid tweet. Offense might have a few issues adjusting the OL while the QB learns the correct reads. How long does that take!? Wentz really needs a fast start and JAX & DET are not easy W's.

Wentz was the best option available and I think everyone would agree. I view him as a gunslinger. These guys win and lose games. Wentz seems to care most about winning. I don't think 1-2% accuracy rate differences tell the whole story. Wentz makes a lot of 20+ yd completions. If accuracy rate was the tell all stat then QBs wouldn't be hard to find.

This team is in shambles and the crowd narrative is double digit wins! 🤣🤣 It's calling it as I see it. Fan hope and athletic potential is not how you win on Sundays. No longer a RR & Co. supporter. Watched them make too many mistakes in drafting and roster moves, to depth chart and scheme, all the way to coaching deficiencies (particularly on defense). Ron Rivera is a nice guy. He's not a winning Head Coach (3 winning seasons out of 11).

Mayo has been starting over Davis 50% of the time since midway last year. Shouldn't be surprising for anyone unless they're still in denial about wasting a 1st round pick.

Weak LB'ers and not many left in the roster or wire, brilliant work on display in DC. TE's are dropping like flies for a new QB who's #1 favorite option is _____ (fill in the blank). Muscle strains are tears. It's just a less threatening way to say the same thing. The strain/tear is graded on severity however, certain muscle groups require different treatment before an athlete can safely play. All take weeks to heal and weeks to safely rehab. Commanders are in trouble from roster neglect and lack of depth.

Fun Fact 1: Jamin Davis only ever started one football season at LB'er before last year. Fun Fact 2: Jamin Davis was last defending the pass in 2021. Fun Camp Note: Jamin Davis is behind David Mayo in rushing package, but starting in pass package (see Fun Fact 2).

Talent gets you fired in the NFL because you're judged on performance. Jamin is physically talented, mentally challenged, and lacks the experience to handle the difference. They are literally 1 injury away from not being able to stop any offense in the NFL (which was about the same as 2021 on 3rd down).. They've put all there eggs in one basket with Holcomb. Jamin Davis is a wild swing and a miss. Not smart enough to process the NFL speed and concepts. Defense will be the reason the team wins or looses unless the team can avg +30 pts per game. JDR has no NEW revolutionary defense 🤣🤣🤣

Been discussing this since the draft. Jamin Davis is a draft bust if there's ever been one. How do two ex-NFL LB'ers become a HC & DC for the same franchise and reach up to #19 to draft the worst LB'er in the NFL (yes, Davis was last)? Then neglect to address being the worst 3rd down defense in NFL history! JDR should have been fired after the last game for incompetent performance. It's like they're trying to sabotage their own defense.

It was an agreed confusion with that RWJ comment...which is confusing in itself, so apologies I was agreeing with you & have to assume dudes a Pukes fan unless there's a correction.

The difference between soreness in a training high priority guy and non-priority guys is where the confusion starts. With Curtis ANY soreness/tightness has to be resolved to take the field, then limitations are applied until he stacks non-symptomatic practice sessions. These are things other guys wouldn't have restrictions with. Curtis will stack 3 sessions in about 2 weeks. #Note - If he completes a half session, then the next session is a full day, then he returns (no missed session) he'll be over the hump.

Dallas signed Barr, that makes you a Pukes Fan! LB'ers are dropping like flies...better sign someone now if they're even thinking about it.

It got jacked up when the head trainer got fired and the staff & coaches rushed him back. His cardio is probably fine. The muscle chain from core up to core down have one common axis, lumbar muscles. When there's supporting muscle weakness, the lower back has to over compensate for the weakness in the chain. Key sign of athletic fitness being off the mark. I'd guess he's close but there's no need to condition a guy with his history if he's tight at all. Just wait until the conditioning fatigue corrects then proceed. The fitness issue is within the lower muscle chain that starts at the lumbar muscle group and extends to the feet. That's why he has lumbar tightening and a sore hamstring. The hamstring surely got an MRI so they'd have seen any tear. He practiced a day later so he doesn't have a torn hamstring, however his abs, hips, and legs need more safe conditioning (symptom free) over the next month to start 2022 the right way. If he tears again, then I'm 100% onboard with letting him go next year.