John Kerry Slams His Own Country At Davos

Why do communist, socialists, democrats wait until they are overseas to express their true feelings?

http://news.bostonherald.com/politics/view.bg?articleid=179558

DAVOS, Switzerland - Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry slammed the foreign policy of the Bush administration yesterday, saying it has caused the United States to become “a sort of international pariah.”

The statement came as Kerry responded to a question about whether the U.S. government had failed to adequately engage Iran’s government before the election of hard-liner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in 2005.

Kerry said the Bush administration has failed to adequately address a number of foreign policy issues.

“When we walk away from global warming, Kyoto, when we are irresponsibly slow in moving toward AIDS in Africa, when we don’t advance and live up to our own rhetoric and standards, we send a terrible message of duplicity and hypocrisy,” Kerry said.

“So we have a crisis of confidence in the Middle East - in the world, really. I’ve never seen our country as isolated, as much as a sort of international pariah for a number of reasons as it is today.”

Kerry said the government needs to use diplomacy to improve national security.

“We need to do a better job of protecting our interests, because after all, that’s what diplomacy is about,” he said. “But you have to do it in a context of the reality, not your lens but the reality of those other cultures and histories.”

Kerry criticized what he called the “unfortunate habit” of Americans to see the world “exclusively through an American lens.”

has john kerry never criticized bush's foreign policy while in the u.s.?

Kerry's clueless...

I'm nervous about John Edwards aka breck girl - anyone that preoccupied with their hair and still using a blow dryer at that age is a bit unsettling:D

to me anyways...

So, exactly what part of what he said is incorrect?

So, exactly what part of what he said is incorrect?

How about his implication that the policies of the United States in this case are WRONG? That would probably be a good place to start with what was incorrect about his comments.

How about his implication that the policies of the United States in this case are WRONG? That would probably be a good place to start with what was incorrect about his comments.

I know, right, because things have been going so well the last six years. Personally, I think for the good of the nation Bush should be president at least another eight to twelve years, until Jeb's ready to take over. In the meantime, we can continue the transition from democracy to full-blown oligarchical theocracy.

Kerry's a rock star in Iran. Maybe for his next trick he'll go sit on an anti-aircraft gun outside Tehran :doh:

Granted, you'd think I'd know by now the high regard Sarge has for truth over spin, but:

Title of the article:

Kerry: U.S. is world ‘pariah’

What the article says:

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry slammed the foreign policy of the Bush administration yesterday, . . .

Sarge's claim:

John Kerry Slams His Own Country

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Why do communist, socialists, democrats wait until they are overseas to express their true feelings?

For the same reason brain-dead, Nazi, republicans think that sound bites and name calling are patriotic?

Granted, you'd think I'd know by now the high regard Sarge has for truth over spin, but:

Title of the article:

What the article says:

Sarge's claim:

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For the same reason brain-dead, Nazi, republicans think that sound bites and name calling are patriotic?

You'll note the source is the Boston Herald. And I'd rather be brain dead than a traitor.

MAybe Carter and Kerry can get together and form a "think" tank

I know, right, because things have been going so well the last six years. Personally, I think for the good of the nation Bush should be president at least another eight to twelve years, until Jeb's ready to take over. In the meantime, we can continue the transition from democracy to full-blown oligarchical theocracy.

I now understand where your name comes from. Just reading those three sentences made my head want to explode.

If you were to go back and re-read my post, you would see the words "in this case" inserted in the first sentence. That would generally tell people that the subject of the sentence is the specific topic referenced by Mr. Kerry, and not the entire list of Bush Administration policies. There are many things I disagree with the POTUS on, but the need to remove Saddam Hussein is not one of them. The President and I may dissagree on the way it was done, but that's another topic. Additionally, most people here have read enough of my posts to know that I have no respect for foreigners, so the USA losing their respect is a GOOD thing in my mind.

You'll note the source is the Boston Herald. And I'd rather be brain dead than a traitor.

MAybe Carter and Kerry can get together and form a "think" tank

Expressing displeasure with the administration of a president of the opposite political party makes you a traitor? So, you were a traitor from 1992-2000?

You'll note the source is the Boston Herald.

1) The source is AP.

2) You picked the source.

3) And no matter which re-print of the story you pick, it will still be "John Kerry slammed the foreign policy of the Bush administration". Because that's what he actually did.

:yawnee:

Wake me when a republican doesn't spin something to try and divert the attention away from the disaster they have created in the middle east.

I now understand where your name comes from. Just reading those three sentences made my head want to explode.

If you were to go back and re-read my post, you would see the words "in this case" inserted in the first sentence. That would generally tell people that the subject of the sentence is the specific topic referenced by Mr. Kerry, and not the entire list of Bush Administration policies. There are many things I disagree with the POTUS on, but the need to remove Saddam Hussein is not one of them. The President and I may dissagree on the way it was done, but that's another topic. Additionally, most people here have read enough of my posts to know that I have no respect for foreigners, so the USA losing their respect is a GOOD thing in my mind.

I've been coming here for about a year now (though I didn't join until April) and I've read enough of your posts to know that you are generally the voice of reason and logic and I wasn't trying to step on your toes. I just believe that democracy is a stupid system and we should have about seven guys that are chosen by a divine panel of, preferably, white, prideful (note: pride is not racism), right-wing Christian fundamentalists who will make a new constitution where our political and religious beliefs can be explicitly laid out so there's no confusion about who is or isn't a traitor. They should set up a secret police force to round up and "educate" these foreigners and fags and college lefties. Rupert Murdoch will be in charge of the new Department of Information--Roy Moore can be the Supreme Judge of the Lord's America--Pat Roberson and Jerry Falwell can co-head the Department of Morality and before we know it we'll be goose-stepping our way to a humble and just and, above all, clean and safe America.

To some, this may sound extreme, but I assume you, Mass, of all people should understand where I'm coming from. We need discipline in this country, we need strong leadership.

By the by: hilarious play on my name--you are wery clever, indeed.

Expressing displeasure with the administration of a president of the opposite political party makes you a traitor? So, you were a traitor from 1992-2000?

Its less about what he said and more about where he said it.

Kerry is known to speak to the crowd he is in front of no matter what he actually thinks, this is evidenced by his 2004 campaign where he would speak on one side of an issue in front of one crowd and 2 days later speak on the opposite side of the issue when speaking to a different crowd.

This isn't suprising from Kerry, and however wrong his comments were to make while over there, I don't think anyone would blink an eye if he was over here when he said that....

Democrats think that they have already won the 08 election and therefore are trying to regain some favor in the international comunity. The bad side about how they are doing it is that if they lose they will have done more damage to our country's relations across the world than they think.

Its less about what he said and more about where he said it.

Kerry is known to speak to the crowd he is in front of no matter what he actually thinks, this is evidenced by his 2004 campaign where he would speak on one side of an issue in front of one crowd and 2 days later speak on the opposite side of the issue when speaking to a different crowd.

This isn't suprising from Kerry, and however wrong his comments were to make while over there, I don't think anyone would blink an eye if he was over here when he said that....

I mostly agree - I just don't think he should be labeled a traitor for saying some of this stuff.

Democrats think that they have already won the 08 election and therefore are trying to regain some favor in the international comunity. The bad side about how they are doing it is that if they lose they will have done more damage to our country's relations across the world than they think.

You really think they can make our world image worse?!?!? There is a reason that a lot of Americans have to say they are Canadian when they travel abroad - and for the most part it is not the Democratic parties fault.

Expressing displeasure with the administration of a president of the opposite political party makes you a traitor? So, you were a traitor from 1992-2000?

When you say it outside of the country, and in front of someone who is a current enemy, you are a traitor.

I'll wait with baited breath for him to go on the campaign trail of some Dem and say the same thing

To some, this may sound extreme, but I assume you, Mass, of all people should understand where I'm coming from. We need discipline in this country, we need strong leadership.

I will agree that we need discipline and strong leadership. I will disagree that those things come strictly from a Christian (or other religious) viewpoint. Those things can just as easily extend from a secular philosophy as they can from a religious one.

Democrats think that they have already won the 08 election and therefore are trying to regain some favor in the international comunity. The bad side about how they are doing it is that if they lose they will have done more damage to our country's relations across the world than they think.

In this you are correct. The Dems think they're actually in charge again already and they're trying to undo all the good this administration has done (unintentionally, unfortunately) in starting to separate this country from the international community.

The true damage from what the Dems are doing will come in the early part of 2009 when either the new Democrat President starts rebuilding relationships with these foreign countries or the new Republican President should be explaining to these same foreigners that we're moving forward with the policies of 'America First' that the current administration accidentally stumbled into.

You'll note the source is the Boston Herald.

One step to the right of the mooney times, but don't let Boston's rag tabloid get in the way of your rant.

And I'd rather be brain dead than a traitor.

And by using your OWN definition of the word, you are both. . .

:yawnee:

Wake me when a republican doesn't spin something to try and divert the attention away from the disaster they have created in the middle east.

I'll see you in the year 2025 and call you Rip Van Winkle

Man Sarge...this is a new low, even for you. :doh:

The whole extreme wingnut act is getting kind of tired, don't ya think??

Man Sarge...this is a new low, even for you. :doh:

The whole extreme wingnut act is getting kind of tired, don't ya think??

I'm the extremist wingnut? :laugh:

I thought that was applied to someone who went outside the country and dogged the US, kinda like Hanoi Jane.

I did actually find this on CNN. I think they had it up for 10-15 minutes

When you say it outside of the country, and in front of someone who is a current enemy, you are a traitor.

DAVOS, Switzerland

:laugh:

THE SWISS ARE THE ENEMY!!! KILL, KILL, KILL!!!!!!!

:yawnee:

Wake me when a republican doesn't spin something to try and divert the attention away from the disaster they have created in the middle east.

No disrespect intended whatsoever, but to me what's worse than republican spinmeisters are those democrats who try to pretend three years after the fact that they didn't aid this administration every step of the way. Kerry is one the biggest offenders and is a big reason he "lost" the election. He should've mopped the floor with Bush but because he was rightly perceived as being insincere the only reason you could vote for the guy was only because he wasn't George Bush. I still hate myself for that one.

When it was time to stand up and be counted, very few democrats were willing to risk looking "soft" on terrorism and defense, so now we have the patriot act, and the meaningless bombings on Afghanistan, the long-term war in Iraq where we shed billions monthly to fill the coffers of rich, connected businessfolk. Not to mention the thousands of lives lost--of which we don't even bother to count the Iraqi civilians who've died. And then there's the whole business of our own infrastructure eroding away quickly and noisily yet we don't have the time or money to do anything about it.

As to why Bush himself wasn't at the time perceived as insincere--well, all I can say is the media was doing its job.

I'm the extremist wingnut? :laugh:

Yeah. When you call something that EVERY politician does "slamming his own country" being a traitor yeah, you've gone off the deep end. Its a ridiculous accusation and frankly, breaks the rules of the board for improper titles. Unless you want to concede that every politician ever has "slammed their own country." :doh:

I did actually find this on CNN. I think they had it up for 10-15 minutes

Your point?