ntotoro Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by PeanutTillman Pass Rush can be more than just sacks. And stop throwing around STAT TO DEFINE DL. I hate it when people say "oh we have a great rush, look how many sacks we got" When you play horrid OL'slike the Boys and the Giatns 2 times a year, the Raiders could get 40 sacks. Then if you know what our D did, moreso that we do, please tell us. How did we not generate a pass rush. 9th in the league in sacks and 7th overall in Pass Defense looks like we either have the greatest CB's or a nice pass rush. Please explain how we didn't have a pass rush. If we didn't it would have hurt us a lot more. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyZeb Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by PeanutTillman Yes, Arrington will be back, that is more htan true. But he wont play a full 16, history shows he wont, what will you do when Arrington is out of the lineup? Hey moron, didn't I already prove you wrong on this: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1131245#post1131245 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB44 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 I don't want to rip anyone for being retarded, but come on dude. Honestly, Greg Williams' expertise in pass rush has proven he can bring pressure from anywhere, anytime, and with any personel. I cite the numerous no names we had on defense as proof. Coach Williams will find some talented personel, hopefully through the draft, that will be able to bring pressure on a consistant basis, as well as be big enough to hold his ground against the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutTillman Posted January 18, 2005 Author Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by Art True, a pass rush can be more than just sacks. And, not only did we get sacks, but we had a tremendous pass rush based on scheme. Take the final game, as a prime example, where we were all over Culpepper. This was common for us except in games where we pulled back on purpose to contain someone -- like McNabb. STOP THROWING AROUND SCHEME. Coaches are going to look at tape and come up with new protection schemes. The 46 was a great scheme, for 1 year, then people figured it out. #1 defenses dont stick around very long b/c they can be gameplanned against. Unless your coach is a genious, Bill Billichick. No, Gibbs isnt in Billichicks echelon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhhorus Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by Art I don't remember that. I'll have to look up the history and see . you did. it was fairly recently. Do a seach for Peanut's posts and look for ones involving the Jets and Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutTillman Posted January 18, 2005 Author Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by Art I don't remember that. I'll have to look up the history and see . yea i dont remember that at all eitehr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by PeanutTillman Yes, Arrington will be back, that is more htan true. But he wont play a full 16, history shows he wont, what will you do when Arrington is out of the lineup? Eh... ? This is the only year he has had a lingering problem. The only thing history shows is that you don't know a whole lot about teams other than the Bears. It's probably even debateable whether you know that much. We beat you with Mark Brunell as our QB. 2004 Mark Brunell, not 1996 Mark Brunell. Isn't that embarassing enough that you would stay away from this site? Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhhorus Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by PeanutTillman STOP THROWING AROUND SCHEME. Coaches are going to look at tape and come up with new protection schemes. The 46 was a great scheme, for 1 year, then people figured it out. #1 defenses dont stick around very long b/c they can be gameplanned against. Unless your coach is a genious, Bill Billichick. No, Gibbs isnt in Billichicks echelon. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: yes, Peanut, you're a "GENIOUS".....ROTFLMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Check out Greg Williams history -- he has never had a bad defense anywhere. The man adjusts his scheme when opponents try to adjust to him. You're not going to win this battle, numnut tillman. Now if you want to talk about our offense, well you may have better luck. I shudder just thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 PS- how do you feel about my assesment of Abraham's injury after two weeks of repeated attacks on his character and heart by just about everyone involved with professional football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins11 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by Akhhorus :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: yes, Peanut, you're a "GENIOUS".....ROTFLMAO Not a GENIOUS like the GENIOUS that is BILLICHICK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ntotoro Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by PeanutTillman STOP THROWING AROUND SCHEME. Coaches are going to look at tape and come up with new protection schemes. The 46 was a great scheme, for 1 year, then people figured it out. #1 defenses dont stick around very long b/c they can be gameplanned against. Unless your coach is a genious, Bill Billichick. Then explain why Williams has been using his scheme with such success on several different teams for as long as he has... ? Gibbs is well past BB. Well past him. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhhorus Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by PeanutTillman Yes, Arrington will be back, that is more htan true. But he wont play a full 16, history shows he wont, what will you do when Arrington is out of the lineup? Arrington has been in the league five years, and has only not played 16 games twice. This past year and 2001, when he played 14 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutTillman Posted January 18, 2005 Author Share Posted January 18, 2005 Gibbs--BB. Are you on crack. Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by PeanutTillman STOP THROWING AROUND SCHEME. Coaches are going to look at tape and come up with new protection schemes. The 46 was a great scheme, for 1 year, then people figured it out. #1 defenses dont stick around very long b/c they can be gameplanned against. Unless your coach is a genious, Bill Billichick. No, Gibbs isnt in Billichicks echelon. #1 - Gibbs doesn't coach defense. #2 - Gregg Williams is a genius. #3 - Gibbs isn't in Billichick's echelon? Whatever. #4 - You are an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by CrazyZeb Hey moron, didn't I already prove you wrong on this: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1131245#post1131245 :owned: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB44 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 :sucks: :sucks: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 So, if we ignore stats, scheme and players, we have no pass rush. Got it. Peanut, you are a troll. You should have, on about page two, said "Gosh, I didn't realize you DID have a pass rush. Sorry for asking." Since you didn't, you are gone. We're not wasting anymore time with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhhorus Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by Art I don't remember that. I'll have to look up the history and see . Sorry, it was OM. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88347&perpage=15&display=&pagenumber=2 quote: Originally posted by PeanutTillman Exept for the NYJ, adn theyre in the playoffs. I'm tempted to channel Art here, and tell you that your next post on this board will be a list of all players the Jets signed prior to the 2004 season, with a big fat asterisk next to any FA, or it will be your last. Instead, I'll just ask you to. I'm interested to see if there's any "there" there with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by PeanutTillman STOP THROWING AROUND SCHEME. Coaches are going to look at tape and come up with new protection schemes. The 46 was a great scheme, for 1 year, then people figured it out. #1 defenses dont stick around very long b/c they can be gameplanned against. Unless your coach is a genious, Bill Billichick. No, Gibbs isnt in Billichicks echelon. PT, I recall a post you made not too long ago where you suggested we ran the Cover-2 and you ridiculed us for telling you we ran a scheme based on the 46. Now you have noticed we were right, but I don't recall you apologizing for the mistake. I do find it encouraging you can learn information from people who know more than you, so, I will hope in a couple of weeks you'll demonstrate knowledge you currently lack based on the efforts in this thread. I'd put Williams' genius against Belichick's in terms of producing top quality defensive units. But, this is because Williams has done that more frequently than Belichick, including both of the last two seasons. It is possible teams will get a better idea how to plan for Williams next year. It is also possible Williams -- who does hundreds of different things -- will continue to adjust to avoid people getting a true read. And, it is MORE than likely he won't be coaching a defense that has to prop up the No. 30 offense and mild improvement there will assist him even if teams start to figure him out some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 See ya, Numnut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by PeanutTillman Gibbs--BB. Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard heard? :confused: :laugh: you have a vocal moniter ? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Akhhorus- What happened to the 78 degree weather? It f*cking COLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhhorus Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by Henry So, if we ignore stats, scheme and players, we have no pass rush. Got it. just minor details....:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akhhorus Posted January 18, 2005 Share Posted January 18, 2005 Originally posted by BG Akhhorus- What happened to the 78 degree weather? It f*cking COLD! DONT GET ME STARTED ON THAT(sorry for the caps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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