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Jacoby, Grimm, and Monk still alive!!!!

Modern-Era Semi-Finalists for the Class of 2005

November 19, 2004

Former All-Pro quarterbacks Dan Marino and Steve Young are among the several first-year eligible players who head the list of 25 semi-finalists for the Pro Football Hall of Fame's Class of 2005. The semi-finalists were chosen by the Hall of Fame's Board of Selectors from the recently announced list of 90 preliminary nominees.

The list of 25 semi-finalists will be reduced by mail ballot to 13 modern-era candidates. That list will then increase to 15 finalist nominees with the inclusion of the two recommended candidates of the Hall of Fame's Senior Committee. This year's Seniors Committee nominees, who were announced in August, are two of pro football's early pioneers - Benny Friedman and Fritz Pollard. The Seniors Committee reviews the qualifications of those players, coaches, and contributors whose careers took place more than 25 years ago. The list of 15 finalists for the Class of 2005 will be announced in mid-January.

The list of 25 modern-era semi-finalists includes:

Harry Carson LB 1976-1988 New York Giants

Don Coryell Coach 1973-1977 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers

Fred Dean DE 1975-1981 San Diego Chargers, 1981-1985 San Francisco 49ers

Richard Dent

DE 1983-1993, 1995 Chicago Bears, 1994 San Francisco 49ers, 1996 Indianapolis Colts, 1997 Philadelphia Eagles

Chris Doleman DE/LB 1985-1993, 1999 Minnesota Vikings, 1994-1995 Atlanta Falcons, 1996-1998 San Francisco 49ers

Randy Gradishar LB 1974-1983 Denver Broncos

L. C. Greenwood DE 1969-1981 Pittsburgh Steelers

Russ Grimm G 1981-1991 Washington Redskins

Ray Guy P 1973-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders

Charles Haley DE/LB 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-1996 Dallas Cowboys

Lester Hayes CB 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders

Claude Humphrey DE 1968-1974, 1976-1978 Atlanta Falcons, 1979-1981 Philadelphia Eagles

Michael Irvin WR 1988-1999 Dallas Cowboys

Joe Jacoby T 1981-1993 Washington Redskins

Bob Kuechenberg G 1970-1984 Miami Dolphins

Dan Marino QB 1983-1999 Miami Dolphins

Art Modell Owner 1961-1995 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2003 Baltimore Ravens

Art Monk WR 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles

Ken Stabler QB 1970-1979 Oakland Raiders, 1980-1981 Houston Oilers, 1982-1984 New Orleans Saints

Derrick Thomas LB 1989-1999 Kansas City Chiefs

Roger Wehrli CB 1969-1982 St. Louis Cardinals

Ralph Wilson, Jr. Owner 1959-current Buffalo Bills

George Young GM/Administrator 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League

Steve Young QB 1985-1986 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1987-1999 San Francisco 49ers

Gary Zimmerman T 1986-1992 Minnesota Vikings, 1993-1997 Denver Broncos

To be considered for election to the Pro Football Hall of Fame, a nominated player must have been retired at least five years. For a non-player, there is not a mandatory retirement period, but a coach must be retired before he may be considered. A contributor, who is a nominee who has made outstanding contributions to pro football in capacities other than playing and coaching, may still be active in his pro football career.

The Class of 2005 will be determined at the Selection Committee's annual meeting on Saturday February 5, 2005, in Jacksonville, Florida, the day before Super Bowl XXXIX. The election results are announced immediately following the meeting at a press conference at the media headquarters. Hall of Fame bylaws stipulate that between three and six new members will be selected each year.

http://www.profootballhof.com//enshrinement//release.jsp?release_id=1338

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I have a question which I think is valid. Do you think that because Steve Young is on the show with Irvin that there might be pressure to put them both in? I mean, I think Steve Young is a first ballot inductee, and on merit, but I have a feeling since they are partners on ESPN, it might cause there to be unfair bias just to tag Irvin along with him.

Russ Grimm should be in no doubt, that would be just another travesty if he wasn't to make it. Jacoby, well I was too young to be able to judge him really. I have seen footage, and know he was a hog, but I have also heard people say, including people on this board say, that he is one of those players that might have turned out average if it was not for Gibbs & Bugel "coaching him up" I dunno, he was just a little before my time.

Art Monk, well he better get in dammit. No reason for Michael Irvin to be in there before Monk......NONE WHATSOEVER.

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Originally posted by Aikmans Killer No.56

Yeah, who was that receiver that got in a few years ago? Can't remember his name, but he played for the Bills in the superbowl against us. I just remember not being that impressed with him. How can that guy be in there and not Monk?!

Andre Reed?

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Loftons Career numbers 764 14004 18.3 75

Lofton made the pro bowl with these numbers:

46 818 17.8 6

Art Monks carre numbers 940 12721 13.5 68

Monk DID NOT make the pro bowl with these numbers:

86 1186 13.8 8

71 1049 14.8 8

Lofton did make it to the Pro bowl 8 times to Monks 3 times but there were at least 3 seasons that Lofton shouldnt have gone but did and at least 2 that Monk didnt but should have.

Lofton gets in the HOF because he was a deep threat receiver on teams who threw the ball deep but Monk doesnt get in because he was on teams that used him primarily to keep the chains moving but he was much more consistant than Lofton ever was.

Monks teams won 3 Super bowls, Lofton has no rings.

If the rings are enough to get average receivers like Lynn Swann (336 5462 16.3 51) John Stallworth (537 8723 16.2 63) both on the same teams that won 4 super bowls then at least one of our receivers who put up better numbers should get in as well.

Every offensive skill position from the 70's Steelers teams are represented in the HOF while we only have one player in and he was only there for one of our SB wins. The Steelers werent nearly as dominamt in their SB wins as we were. They squeeked by Dallas in 2 of their wins and of the 4 games the biggest win was 12 points in a game they were losing until the 4th quarter. Adding a couple of 4 point SB wins and a 10 point win against the Vikings shouldnt mean that they get 10 HOFers and we only get 1 should it? Well thats what it is right now.

All I'm saying is that if a guy like Lynn Swann who averaged 2-3 receptions a game for 40 yards over his career and contributed nothing to one of their SB wins as well, then why cant Monk get in with much better numbers and having held several league records? Peter Queens gripe is that he wasn't that good and that he was injured for one of the SB wins. Well thats better than being there and contribltung nothing but a couple dropped balls. And for someone who is not that good, its odd that he held several NFL receiving records for a few years.

John stallworth gets in even though his best years were after they finished winning SB's. Between 74-79 Stallworth had 200 receptions for 31TD's. :wavetowel

In otherwords, 33 receptions and 5 TD's a year are enough to get a Steelers receiver in the hof. :pooh:

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- L. C. Greenwood DE 1969-1981 Pittsburgh Steelers

- Lester Hayes CB 1977-1986 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders

- Dan Marino QB 1983-1999 Miami Dolphins

- Art Monk WR 1980-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 New York Jets, 1995 Philadelphia Eagles

- Steve Young QB 1985-1986 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1987-1999 San Francisco 49ers

This is who I think will probably make it into the hall this year. Maybe Ken Stabler, but he wasn't good until his twilight years, and maybe Art Modell, but how do you vote for a guy who moved the Browns?

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