TheSkipper Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 The back judge, Jim Howey. :banhim: After Gerry Austin and the other three officials pointed in the Redskins direction on the fumble, the back judge came in and said he was down by contact. Austin looked shocked by went with the call. Three or four plays later that same guy called interference on Harris. I read their lips and the guy said "It was definitely pass interference" The final flub was the raping of Rod. The sideline official was behind the play, so couldn't see jersey grabbing. So the guy who should've made the call was the guy under the goal post. You guessed it, the same guy. It's amazing how one guy's bad night can totally change the course of the game. I recommed we make sure good ol Jimbo keeps his butt away from Fedex. I'm not whining. Just pointing out the facts. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afparent Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Hey, I was at the game and the Pass interference against us was right in front of me. The ref was right on it and I saw him signal incomplete pass and out of nowhere comes this flag from the middle of the field. I was suspiscous then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Let's light him on fire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Didn't know it was all the same ref. That actually hurts even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soljaofjesus Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 DALLAS PAID THE REF! DALLAS PAID THE REF!! DALLAS PAID THE REF!! OR eITHER A FA?N PAID TEH REF!! A FAN PAID TEH REF!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ball Coach Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I can't wait until we get our league appology. That will make me feel much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 facts is facts.. we got 2 guys pointing Skins ball and he comes in and overturns it.. ever since Jerry Jones had Switzer he learned how to win a totally other way. Before that, the Boys were coo,l and the rivalry was great. Now in the immortal words of Barry Switzer after the SB victory over the Steelers.."We did it out way..Baby!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzSkinsFan63 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 everybody talks about a useless apology....whooopee! If this guy were fired that would be the only NFL statement I can live with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Yeah, if not for that bogus interfernce call on Harris, we win the game 17-14. It is interesting that it was all one guy making the calls against us. The cowboys fans are b!tchin' about the same thing on Cowboyszone. They are complaining about calls that didn't go their way. :laugh: HELLOOOOOOO! YOU WON, DUMBAZZ!!! :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ynot Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I agree the guy should be fired by the league, or at least sat down for a few weeks without pay, just like a player would. Also he shold be ban from Redskins Games. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Brown #43 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 He probably had some $$ on Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTaylor42 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by Larry Brown #43 He probably had some $$ on Dallas. That's what I was going to say. We need to find out if this guy laid down any bets on Dallas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marhobo Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I bet it was also the same ref that allowed the interception that hit the ground....before flagged for review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wicked99 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 is this the guy? http://www.erskine.edu/news/howie.9.21.99.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallsux Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by Wicked99 is this the guy? http://www.erskine.edu/news/howie.9.21.99.html That would be him...:cuss: :banhim: :nutkick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClownPuncher Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Is it the same judge who missed the trapped no-catch by Portis just before halftime? Or is it the same judge who missed the tackle on the trapped no-catch by Portis just before halftime that gave the skins a 1st down and allowed them to kick a FG? Is it the same judge who missed the blatant pushoff by Gardner on the last play of the game? The first pi call was made against Washington because the DB impeded the route of the WR makinf the WR bump into him. Difference was the WR was looking for the ball, the DB was not. Yes, the WR did push the DB, but that was after the DB blocked his lane to the ball. The ball was in the air, the DB impeded the WR's lane, the WR ran into the DB going after the ball, the WR pushed the DB to get to the ball. The DB intiated contact by blocking the WR from the balls route. You can't just run down the field and step in front of the WR, block his lane, and then have the WR run into you when the ball is in the air and the DB isn't even looking at the ball. That's why he got the penalty and not the WR. As far as the punt, it clearly showed the ball was touched, and the returner jumped on it, was down and once he's touched, he is down by contact. The did pop loose after he was hit, but once one finger touched him, he was down. Should have been an unsportmanlike conduct penalty on Washington for a late hit and uneccesary roughness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rypien11 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Found this link relating to an NFl offical by the same name. wonder if it is the same Ref. http://www.erskine.edu/news/howie.9.21.99.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Joe Hog Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 He even LOOKS like a Dallas fan! He has the same dull uncomprehending eyes, the stick out ears of the inbred, and the upper lip that practically covers his chin, indicating low intelligence. Even if he didn't look like a Cowboys fan, his name would give him away. Isn't his name, Jim Howey, a little too close to that of former Cowboys player Chuck Howley to be a coincidence? And he's from South Carolina! Isn't former Cowboys player Dan Reeves from South Carolina, too? There you have it, the proof that the fix was in! I rest my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeSkin Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Reminds me very much of the Florida vs. FSU game a few years back in the Swamp where UF thoroughly dominated every aspect of the game and were absolutely robbed by the refs. It was even worse than our game last night. I was reading Gatorzone after the game, and they were posting his e-mail address, his phone number, and the address of his business. Which leads me to this question. Does anybody in the know have the e-mail address of this guy? I know it's listed out there somewhere. Nothing would please me more to give him a piece of my mind. Not only is he a horrible ref, but he looks all the world like Alfred E. Neuman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I wanted to murder that f**ker, I was so pissed. We got RAPED on those calls. Sadly, I can't say I'm surprised though, since it seems to happen to us all too often. Still, I won't lay the blame for this loss on the refs, though they had their part. We had our chances and couldn't capitalize. As far as I'm concerned the Cowpr*cks didn't beat us, the clock did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opiate-Zeo Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by ClownPuncher Is it the same judge who missed the trapped no-catch by Portis just before halftime? Or is it the same judge who missed the tackle on the trapped no-catch by Portis just before halftime that gave the skins a 1st down and allowed them to kick a FG? Is it the same judge who missed the blatant pushoff by Gardner on the last play of the game? The first pi call was made against Washington because the DB impeded the route of the WR makinf the WR bump into him. Difference was the WR was looking for the ball, the DB was not. Yes, the WR did push the DB, but that was after the DB blocked his lane to the ball. The ball was in the air, the DB impeded the WR's lane, the WR ran into the DB going after the ball, the WR pushed the DB to get to the ball. The DB intiated contact by blocking the WR from the balls route. You can't just run down the field and step in front of the WR, block his lane, and then have the WR run into you when the ball is in the air and the DB isn't even looking at the ball. That's why he got the penalty and not the WR. As far as the punt, it clearly showed the ball was touched, and the returner jumped on it, was down and once he's touched, he is down by contact. The did pop loose after he was hit, but once one finger touched him, he was down. Should have been an unsportmanlike conduct penalty on Washington for a late hit and uneccesary roughness. Either you didn't see the same game we did, or you don't have any way to go back and look at the game. Walt Harris was looking back at the ball. That's when they ran into each other, which should have been incidental contact, not including how the WR pushed him down to the ground when the ball came, which is pass interference on the WR. The fumble call was a close one, I'm not too upset about the call. What upset me was that there was no whistle, and they called is redskins ball. It should have been skins ball, and Parcells should have had to challenge it. I notice how you don't mention Newman's PI at all. Actually, Ports did catch that ball, but he was down. I'll give you that. But let's count the points. Take away 7 of yours for the incorrect PI call on Harris. Take away 3 of ours because of the non-call on Portis, and add the 7 or 3 that we would have gotten from the PI call that should have been on Newman. Either way, we win 21-14 or 17-14. You need to admit the refs gave you that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by CowboyzSuckAzz Yeah, if not for that bogus interfernce call on Harris, we win the game 17-14. It is interesting that it was all one guy making the calls against us. The cowboys fans are b!tchin' about the same thing on Cowboyszone. They are complaining about calls that didn't go their way. :laugh: HELLOOOOOOO! YOU WON, DUMBAZZ!!! :dallasuck They have to. To validate that win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamJT13 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by Opiate-Zeo Either you didn't see the same game we did, or you don't have any way to go back and look at the game. Walt Harris was looking back at the ball. That's when they ran into each other, which should have been incidental contact, not including how the WR pushed him down to the ground when the ball came, which is pass interference on the WR. Harris stuck his arm out and impeded Glenn. That's an automatic pass interference, whether he's looking back at the ball or not. And for Glenn's grab to have been interference, Harris would have had to have been making a play on the ball, or Glenn would have had to create separation by doing it. Neither of those occurred. Still, if the refs had called Glenn for pass interference, too, it would have been offsetting penalties. And the Cowboys would have still had the ball in Redskins territory. The fumble call was a close one, I'm not too upset about the call. What upset me was that there was no whistle, and they called is redskins ball. It should have been skins ball, and Parcells should have had to challenge it. So you're upset because the refs didn't get the call wrong? I notice how you don't mention Newman's PI at all. Would Gardner have caught the ball without Newman's hand on his shoulder? But let's count the points. Take away 7 of yours for the incorrect PI call on Harris. Take away 3 of ours because of the non-call on Portis, and add the 7 or 3 that we would have gotten from the PI call that should have been on Newman. Either way, we win 21-14 or 17-14. You need to admit the refs gave you that game. [/b] You forgot to take away Gardner's long catch that should have been offensive interference, the roughing-the-passer call that shouldn't have been, the delay of game that wasn't called, the blatant holding that wasn't called and the overly generous ball spots in the Redksins' favor. Final score: 14-7 or 14-3, Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by cphil006 Let's light him on fire... I'm game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chopper Dave Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Originally posted by AdamJT13 Harris stuck his arm out and impeded Glenn. That's an automatic pass interference, whether he's looking back at the ball or not. And for Glenn's grab to have been interference, Harris would have had to have been making a play on the ball, or Glenn would have had to create separation by doing it. Neither of those occurred. Still, if the refs had called Glenn for pass interference, too, it would have been offsetting penalties. And the Cowboys would have still had the ball in Redskins territory. So you're upset because the refs didn't get the call wrong? Would Gardner have caught the ball without Newman's hand on his shoulder? You forgot to take away Gardner's long catch that should have been offensive interference, the roughing-the-passer call that shouldn't have been, the delay of game that wasn't called, the blatant holding that wasn't called and the overly generous ball spots in the Redksins' favor. Final score: 14-7 or 14-3, Dallas. 1) Harris didn't stick out his arm, Glenn grabbed it. Harris was thrown to the ground by said arm. Learn to see. 2) We're pissed because they did get it wrong. I think Madden, Michaels, all the ESPN analysts, along with most of the people on this board, know better than you. The call was wrong; that's undebatable. 3) Yes. Gardner would have caught it. And does it matter? Would Glenn have caught that ball if he hadn't of thrown Harris on the turf? Who cares? You still got the yards. 4) Gardner's long catch (at the end, I'm assuming) was with 3 seconds on the clock, and besides, if the refs did their job, the penalty would have been offset by RW's helmet to helmet hit. And how many times did Dat Retard (Wiley, not the MLB whose last name I can't spell) punch Brunell in the head without a call? Also, we stopped the delay with a TO. And don't get me started on generous ball spotting (I'm not even going to make a Parcells gay joke here... you can fill in the blanks). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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