skinsfan913 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Vote for President Bush and Republican Senators and Congressmen if: You think $900/month ($10,800/year) is a fair price for a health insurance policy. You believe drug companies should prevent you from buying Canadian drugs at half price. You are a senior citizen and you think you are about to receive all your medication for free because President Bush has passed the “prescription drugs for seniors under Medicare” legislation. You think large tax breaks for CEO’s making over $50 million are good, but your own CEO may have to cut the company budget and eliminate your position. You never work or get paid for overtime so you don’t care about the recent Bush bill that will eliminate overtime pay for 8 million workers. You don’t know any of the 9 million unemployed U.S. and don’t know anyone in Iraq. Your state has a budget deficit of $2 billion but we should spend $600 billion in Iraq. You know Iraq has more oil than any other country in the world, but no one knows where it ends up after it comes out of the ground or who got the money for it. You would like to see us attack Syria, Iran, and North Korea and Cuba at a cost of $1 trillion, because they are bad and are trying to get us and we better get them first. These rogue countries are sneaky and have tens of thousands of nuclear missiles and weapons of mass destruction pointed at us. You don’t know how much $1 trillion is. (Answer: It’s $1,000,000,000,000 or a million million dollars. $1 trillion dollars could pay for 25 million jobs that would pay $40,000 for a year. $1 trillion could employ all of the 9 million unemployed for the next three years. The United States could probably purchase peacefully all of North Korea for $1 trillion dollars.) You are a woman and want abortion made illegal, and want women imprisoned for obtaining one, to teach them a lesson. You can afford to travel to Sweden. You are a man and want to make sure that women having abortions is illegal, and that the men (also known at the “fathers”) who impregnate the women are completely and totally blameless if such a crime is committed. You like Pat Robertson, the TV evangelist. You send him contributions and you pray with him for the “passing” of three Supreme Court Justices. You are 100% for the death penalty and its OK if a few hundred people get executed when they were actually totally innocent. It’s the price we have to pay. You think that 2 million people in jail is normal and we need to lock up even more people. You think we have won the war on drugs because no one ever talks about it anymore. You think $15,000 to $30,000 a year to send your child away to college is just fine and it’s a good buy. You are a doctor and want doctors to be imprisoned for accidentally or purposely causing an abortion. You are a doctor and like spending more time with insurance paper work, pharmaceutical sales reps, your office personnel, your lawyer, phone calls to insurance reps and drug stores, and you find your patients too time consuming and annoying. You are planning to move to China or India and want a job with an American company there. (Working for 35 cents an hour with no benefits). You never visited a National Park (Yellowstone, Yosemite, the White Mountains) and don’t care about them. They look fine on the postcards you get from friends. You are a teacher and think that our educational system is tops in the world. Your town just rejected spending increases of $5 million for additional teachers and much needed reconstruction of the school buildings, and it’s closing a local medical clinic but you think it’s a good idea for President Bush to give $50 billion to a few warring countries in Africa that are in total chaos, so they can build schools, hire teachers, open clinics, and then destroy them as they continue to kill each other in never ending civil wars. You keep getting Liberia mixed up with Lebanon so you don’t really care who gets the $15 billion Bush earmarked of one of those countries. You like paying $2.00 a gallon for gas because Exxon/Mobil must be hurting. You don’t mind transferring your computer technology skills to serving coffee in Dunkin’ Donuts for $6.00 an hour with no health insurance. You think Saddam Hussein attacked the World Trade Center and can’t remember who Osama bin Laden is. You forgot who had the weapons of mass destruction; us or them. You believe that 40 million people without health insurance isn’t all that bad. You think that the solution is that they just better not get sick. You think that your company enjoys paying most of your health premiums and they probably have never thought about eliminating your position. You don’t know what the Homeland Security Department does, how much it costs your State Government, and you can’t name all the colors on the color-coded alert chart. You don’t live in the Northeast so the electrical blackout didn’t affect you but you think we should spend $18 billion on the electrical grid in Iraq. You think the 150,000 American troops are having fun in Iraq and we should send more to protect the Iraqi’s from the Iraqi’s. You think President Bush and the Republican Party deserves contributions from the pharmaceutical and health insurance industry and you don’t mind paying $200 for a bottle of prescription drugs. You like seeing constant TV commercials for powerful, potentially dangerous prescription drugs because if you didn’t you wouldn’t know you were so sick and your doctor wouldn’t tell you about the drugs without you asking him. You like President Bush’s tough talk and get a kick out of the expressions “we’re gonna smoke ‘em out and bring ‘em ta justice”; “we’re gonna get ‘em dead or alive”; “bring ‘em (the terrorists) on”; and “we’re gonna get ‘dem folks who knocked down da buildings”, and you think this eloquent speaking, (prepared and reviewed by 100 Presidential speechwriters) enhances our stature in the world. You like to see President Bush getting off the shiny green helicopter with his two dogs and he always smiles and waves and holds hands with his wife and that seems nice. Your main source of information is the Nightly News where you hear 20 minutes of short sound bites from any one Presidential candidate speaking for 15 seconds on the $600 billion being spent on Iraq, intermingled with 15 commercials for pharmaceutical products that “speak” for 30 seconds each. You especially like the chemotherapy and rheumatoid arthriti commercials that show healthy people walking their dogs on beautiful green grass with beautiful sunsets with soothing music; and the commercials where people have been cured of their diarrehea and constipation and can get to work on time. You voted for Bush’s father when he won and you voted for Bush’s father when he lost. And you voted for this current President Bush when he lost, but then you found out he won because of something in Florida. And it’s easy to remember the name Bush, so you might as well vote for him again. You live in Florida and it doesn’t matter so “let the chips (or the chads) fall where they may”. :wewantd: :dallasuck :wewantd: :dallasuck :wewantd: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 You copied this from somewhere, you going to bother to tell us which of the above you actually believe so we could talk about it. Or is it mostly just funny and you'll ignore the fact that most are wrong??? just a question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 You got cheese with that whine. All of the sudden one sitting president is the cause of all the nations Ills. You guys had it for 8 years. Why didn't you fix it all when you had the chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I like the Pat Robertson line. That guy is a real piece of work and leader of the GOP voting base, the Christian Coalition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Not even worth a response. There are so many "un-proven" accusations in there that it's already lost any credibility. How is it that the left can constantly resurect garbage that is proven false or at a minimum a questionable statement? Answer: Because it's all they have to go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashback Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Hey, after 8 years, we had budget surpluses, low unemployment, more people had health insurance, the middle class was bigger, poverty was lower, and we were respected, not just feared, in the international community. WTF has your guy done so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by skinsfan913 Vote for President Bush and Republican Senators and Congressmen if: You think $900/month ($10,800/year) is a fair price for a health insurance policy. I pay 70 with Aetna, I paid 200 as a contractor You believe drug companies should prevent you from buying Canadian drugs at half price. I think the american companies should have to go against the canadian ones.. free market You are a senior citizen and you think you are about to receive all your medication for free because President Bush has passed the “prescription drugs for seniors under Medicare” legislation. cool a positive one You think large tax breaks for CEO’s making over $50 million are good, but your own CEO may have to cut the company budget and eliminate your position. You never work or get paid for overtime so you don’t care about the recent Bush bill that will eliminate overtime pay for 8 million workers. You don’t know any of the 9 million unemployed U.S. and don’t know anyone in Iraq. I dont and Bushs exempted me again also Your state has a budget deficit of $2 billion but we should spend $600 billion in Iraq. Virginia had 200 million surplus but nice try You know Iraq has more oil than any other country in the world, but no one knows where it ends up after it comes out of the ground or who got the money for it. Lets get back to this after the sabotage from iran You would like to see us attack Syria, Iran, and North Korea and Cuba at a cost of $1 trillion, because they are bad and are trying to get us and we better get them first. These rogue countries are sneaky and have tens of thousands of nuclear missiles and weapons of mass destruction pointed at us. You don’t know how much $1 trillion is. (Answer: It’s $1,000,000,000,000 or a million million dollars. $1 trillion dollars could pay for 25 million jobs that would pay $40,000 for a year. $1 trillion could employ all of the 9 million unemployed for the next three years. The United States could probably purchase peacefully all of North Korea for $1 trillion dollars.) your rambling, Clinton already fixed N. Korea You are a woman and want abortion made illegal, and want women imprisoned for obtaining one, to teach them a lesson. You can afford to travel to Sweden. You are a man and want to make sure that women having abortions is illegal, and that the men (also known at the “fathers”) who impregnate the women are completely and totally blameless if such a crime is committed. I would love to make adoption the 2nd choice. having sex was the choice, the abortion is the 2nd choice You like Pat Robertson, the TV evangelist. You send him contributions and you pray with him for the “passing” of three Supreme Court Justices. never watched him.. no comment You are 100% for the death penalty and its OK if a few hundred people get executed when they were actually totally innocent. It’s the price we have to pay. You think that 2 million people in jail is normal and we need to lock up even more people. You think we have won the war on drugs because no one ever talks about it anymore. yep, republicans fault for jail, all drugs should be legal :doh: Vancouver mayor is trying to hook you up now You think $15,000 to $30,000 a year to send your child away to college is just fine and it’s a good buy. Nova You are a doctor and want doctors to be imprisoned for accidentally or purposely causing an abortion. You are a doctor and like spending more time with insurance paper work, pharmaceutical sales reps, your office personnel, your lawyer, phone calls to insurance reps and drug stores, and you find your patients too time consuming and annoying. You are planning to move to China or India and want a job with an American company there. (Working for 35 cents an hour with no benefits). So your mad that india and pakistan is sending all their techs here, and that all the phone jobs are going to India and Pakistan??? You never visited a National Park (Yellowstone, Yosemite, the White Mountains) and don’t care about them. They look fine on the postcards you get from friends. You are a teacher and think that our educational system is tops in the world. Bush doing a better job at that Your town just rejected spending increases of $5 million for additional teachers and much needed reconstruction of the school buildings, and it’s closing a local medical clinic but you think it’s a good idea for President Bush to give $50 billion to a few warring countries in Africa that are in total chaos, so they can build schools, hire teachers, open clinics, and then destroy them as they continue to kill each other in never ending civil wars. You hate Africans??? You keep getting Liberia mixed up with Lebanon so you don’t really care who gets the $15 billion Bush earmarked of one of those countries. You like paying $2.00 a gallon for gas because Exxon/Mobil must be hurting. 1.88, and compared to every other country we are doing quite well. You don’t mind transferring your computer technology skills to serving coffee in Dunkin’ Donuts for $6.00 an hour with no health insurance. I am the tech, but would give it up for those lovely donuts You think Saddam Hussein attacked the World Trade Center and can’t remember who Osama bin Laden is. You forgot who had the weapons of mass destruction; us or them. your trying to mask the fact that democrats would just hug them both and ask them to attack someone else You believe that 40 million people without health insurance isn’t all that bad. You think that the solution is that they just better not get sick. You think that your company enjoys paying most of your health premiums and they probably have never thought about eliminating your position. you cant have it both ways You don’t know what the Homeland Security Department does, how much it costs your State Government, and you can’t name all the colors on the color-coded alert chart. You don’t live in the Northeast so the electrical blackout didn’t affect you but you think we should spend $18 billion on the electrical grid in Iraq. you have to get the electrical to the point the people have electricity... You think the 150,000 American troops are having fun in Iraq and we should send more to protect the Iraqi’s from the Iraqi’s. Dont even try it You think President Bush and the Republican Party deserves contributions from the pharmaceutical and health insurance industry and you don’t mind paying $200 for a bottle of prescription drugs. You like seeing constant TV commercials for powerful, potentially dangerous prescription drugs because if you didn’t you wouldn’t know you were so sick and your doctor wouldn’t tell you about the drugs without you asking him. You like President Bush’s tough talk and get a kick out of the expressions “we’re gonna smoke ‘em out and bring ‘em ta justice”; “we’re gonna get ‘em dead or alive”; “bring ‘em (the terrorists) on”; and “we’re gonna get ‘dem folks who knocked down da buildings”, and you think this eloquent speaking, (prepared and reviewed by 100 Presidential speechwriters) enhances our stature in the world. You like to see President Bush getting off the shiny green helicopter with his two dogs and he always smiles and waves and holds hands with his wife and that seems nice. Your main source of information is the Nightly News where you hear 20 minutes of short sound bites from any one Presidential candidate speaking for 15 seconds on the $600 billion being spent on Iraq, intermingled with 15 commercials for pharmaceutical products that “speak” for 30 seconds each. You especially like the chemotherapy and rheumatoid arthriti commercials that show healthy people walking their dogs on beautiful green grass with beautiful sunsets with soothing music; and the commercials where people have been cured of their diarrehea and constipation and can get to work on time. You voted for Bush’s father when he won and you voted for Bush’s father when he lost. And you voted for this current President Bush when he lost, but then you found out he won because of something in Florida. And it’s easy to remember the name Bush, so you might as well vote for him again. hey, thats me You live in Florida and it doesn’t matter so “let the chips (or the chads) fall where they may”. Democrats created it, put it in the paper and approved it, nice try though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I love these kind of threads. For both sides. They make me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 and we were respected, not just feared, in the international community. Ooooooo we we're respected. Now that's important. As for the economic situation and the surplus, two words. Tech Boom. You libs want to claim responsibility for positive things you had no impact on and dodge responsibility for negative things your completely responsible for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucaro Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Then how was the budget deficit halved before the boom then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Bass Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by Bucaro Then how was the budget deficit halved before the boom then? It was a joint effort between Clinton and The Republicans in Congress, but they were constantly pressuring Clinton to cut more even spending during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashback Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Just so we all have the facts, non-defense, non-debt maintenance spending under Bill Clinton grew at 4.3% per year. Under Bush, the same spending has grown 8% per year. They both have Republican Congresses. The difference is, Clinton was a fiscal conservative, Bush isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nerm Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 I have a question about the "Canadian" drugs. Are people trying to buy Canadian made drugs or are these American drugs that were shipped to Canada? I guess I don't get this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by Nerm I have a question about the "Canadian" drugs. Are people trying to buy Canadian made drugs or are these American drugs that were shipped to Canada? I guess I don't get this issue. I might be wrong, but I believe it's drugs made by American companies. The problem is many countries have price controls on prescription drugs. The US does not. But that means that the one free market will be the US. Unfortunately, the drugs in other countries are essentially subsidized, which means the prices will be higher here. But then there are foreign-made drugs for certain products that are no longer in the hands of one company's patent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by Destino I like the Pat Robertson line. That guy is a real piece of work and leader of the GOP voting base, the Christian Coalition. While I'm not fan of Robertson, I'd hardly call the Christian Coalition THE GOP voting base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by Sea Bass It was a joint effort between Clinton and The Republicans in Congress, but they were constantly pressuring Clinton to cut more even spending during that time. Why aren't they pressuring Bush to cut spending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by DjTj Why aren't they pressuring Bush to cut spending? Stupid triangulation strategy. I think they'd like to, but they feel compelled to back the President. That's party politics today. The actual core values of the Republicans are being completely violated by Bush and the leadership of the party. "get in line, boys" seems to be the dictum. And if you don't fall into place, you'll be ignored by the national machine of the party when it comes time for elections. It's why some people feel the Republicans will be more adversarial and more true if a Dem is in the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Originally posted by DjTj Why aren't they pressuring Bush to cut spending? I feel they are trying to avoid the mistake of the elder Bush made by assuming the public realised the economy was set to expand.W does not wish to cut spending at a time when the economy is just coming back.Most dems will never credit Bush sr for the economic explosion that he set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 Originally posted by Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin I might be wrong, but I believe it's drugs made by American companies. The problem is many countries have price controls on prescription drugs. The US does not. But that means that the one free market will be the US. Unfortunately, the drugs in other countries are essentially subsidized, which means the prices will be higher here. But then there are foreign-made drugs for certain products that are no longer in the hands of one company's patent. Some are made here and some are not, but its essentially the same drug (same name, dosing and formula). The reason its cheaper isnt because of subsidies but rather the canadian govt has an agreement with companies that they cant charge more than a certain amount (they still make a huge profit).. Some states are trying the same thing, since their medicaid programs buy in huge quantities, they are trying to make deals with pharm. companies for cheaper prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 I know this is a Bush Bash thread, and not to change the subject...can anyone articulate for me what Kerry's plan for Iraq and the war on terror is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yank Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 Incredibly naive (or completely disingenuous) to compare the Clinton years to the Bush years. Clinton had the dot com that became the dot bomb during the Bush years. Clinton got the benefit of the Enron/Global Crossing/Anderson explosion (while doing zip nada to stop it) while Bush blew the whistle and prosecuted and the economy felt the effects. Clinton got the Y2K bump while Bush got the empty bag. Those were the things in common. There were many, many other things different. Anyone heard of 9-11. American lost 1.3 million jobs in the first 3 months after 9-11. We had to mobilize to go to the source of the terrorism (dont get me started that Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism) that cost alot of dough. But do we just sit and wait for the next? Argue what you will about it but the best defense is a good offense. Anyone on this board know anything about football? Guess what the net job loss is at this time - the same 1.3 million jobs lost immediately after 9-11. At the same time the Clinton recession that started in Feb of 2000 has been reversed. Yeah Clinton was the genius and Bush is an idiot. Yet its Bush that has the MBA from Harvard (yeah look it up Einstein) and given the events and consequences of 9-11 its the 2nd graders that think he hasnt done a remarkable job to hold this economy together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Bass Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 Originally posted by DjTj Why aren't they pressuring Bush to cut spending? That is the $422 billion question. It seems to me that they have an interest in getting him reelected. Unfortunately in this day and age, that means no major spending cuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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