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Qcard · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by redman: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Qcard: More Apples get your facts straight:[/b] Here is a qutoe from Quincy Carter's Coach at Georgia just after Carter declared he was going pro. I have also added the link from th eentire article, next time get a bigger gun REDMAN!! <a href="http://www.augustasports.com/stories/011001/col_124-7782.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.augustasports.com/stories/011001/col_124-7782.shtml</a> <blockquote>quote:<hr />Richt said he told Carter during their Monday meeting that he would be Georgia's starting quarterback entering spring practice, but Richt also made it clear he didn't want to have to talk Carter into staying. ``He asked if he'd be the starter,'' Richt said. ``I said, `You'll start out as the No. 1 quarterback, and I'll do everything in my power to help you succeed.' If Quincy came back and he wasn't the starter, that wouldn't have been fair to him. He would have been the starter going in. ``The big question I think in his mind was, how quickly could it all come together for him to have the kind of success he wanted to have?''<hr /></blockquote><hr /></blockquote>I'm sure that Richt said that to his underdeveloped QB who was declaring eligibility for the NFL draft. That wasn't my point. The point is that every knowledgeable fan at UGA knew that ole Quincy would be beaten out at QB, no matter where he was on the totem pole come spring practice. And as for declaring Quincy a "steal", I'd remind you that even if he turns out all right, the Cowboys could have drafted him 1-2 rounds later than they did - after having traded up for him. <img border="0" alt="[laugh]" title="" src="graemlins/laugh.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> :<hr /></blockquote>Well since you are so high on whomever would have beaten out Quincy for the starting job in Georgia, please post his stats and accomplishments this past season at Georgia. I will gracially post Quincy Carter's stats and accomplishments which include OFFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK (NFL NOT SEC)AGAINST THE PLAYOFF BOUND 49ERS. Not to mention his coming out partly against a improving Redskins team coming off a 5 game winning streak at Fedex field. This debate is starting to get weak. Please lets have some objectivity. [ April 03, 2002, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: Qcard ]

baralufficus · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Qcard: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by inmate running the asylum: Qcard the Cowpukes may have won 9 straight regular season games against the Skins, but they were meaningless games for both teams during this period, as neither team was going anywhere. The only time the Skins have ever played the Cowpukes in the playoffs (two championship games with the Super Bowl on the line), we trounced the Cowpukes both times ...34-17 and 26-7. Remember? <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Great now put your 2-1/2 superbowl trophies up against our 5 superbowl Trophies, 8 NFC Conference Titles, 17 Division Titles and our All time 49-33 record against your team and then you'll realize why we are called "America's Team" <hr /></blockquote>BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH , yes you have 8 Conference titles, but you would of had 10 if the Pukes could of beat the REDSKINS when it counted ...

redman · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Qcard:Who cares about what other people say? Jerry Jones selects players whom he thinks will benefit Dallas. he is not in this business to please the media or other teams. Charles Casserly was drinking too much Mel Kiper juice when he drafted the following 1st round picks. 1991 - Booby Wilson DT 1992 - Desmond Howard (What was he anyway WR KR??) 1993 - Tom Carter CB 1994 - Heath shuler QB 1995 - Michael Westbrook WR (Biggest Dissapointment) 1996 - Andre Johnson T 1997 - Kenard Lang DE( good pick- poorly utilised) And these are just 1st rounders picks like Tre Johson and Stephen Alexander have severly underahieved for their lofty status. So please before you questions Jerry's philosophy in the past clean out your own closet.[/QB]<hr /></blockquote>Funny how you stop 5 years ago. Let's compare 1st and 2nd rounders from 1998 through the present, shall we: 1998: Cowboys- DE Greg Ellis, Flozell Adams Redskins- no 1st (Wilkinson trade), Stephen Alexander 1999: Cowboys- Ebenezer Ekuban, Solomon Page Redskins- Champ Bailey, John Jansen 2000: Cowboys- no 1st (Galloway trade), Dwayne Goodrich Redskins- Lavar Arrington, Chris Samuels, no 2nd 2001: Cowboys- no 1st (Galloway trade), Quincy Carter Redskins- Rod Gardner, Fred Smoot Nice try, Chief. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> :

Qcard · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH , yes you have 8 Conference titles, but you would of had 10 if the Pukes could of beat the REDSKINS when it counted ...[/QB]<hr /></blockquote>Well if that is your claim to fame, just let Dannyboy know and you guys can have a ceremony at Fedex field during the half time of the last game of the season. Display your banner in Burgundy and Gold from the rafters : " WE BEAT THE COWBOYS WHEN IT COUNTED" Sing along with the band "hail to the Redskins" and everybody can go home happy when we spank your tails again.

Skins24 · April 3, 2002

Yeah, we should hook them on the next cloud that flys by. Last I checked, we were in an open air stadium....

Qcard · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by redman: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Qcard:Who cares about what other people say? Jerry Jones selects players whom he thinks will benefit Dallas. he is not in this business to please the media or other teams. Charles Casserly was drinking too much Mel Kiper juice when he drafted the following 1st round picks. 1991 - Booby Wilson DT 1992 - Desmond Howard (What was he anyway WR KR??) 1993 - Tom Carter CB 1994 - Heath shuler QB 1995 - Michael Westbrook WR (Biggest Dissapointment) 1996 - Andre Johnson T 1997 - Kenard Lang DE( good pick- poorly utilised) And these are just 1st rounders picks like Tre Johson and Stephen Alexander have severly underahieved for their lofty status. So please before you questions Jerry's philosophy in the past clean out your own closet.<hr /></blockquote>Funny how you stop 5 years ago. Let's compare 1st and 2nd rounders from 1998 through the present, shall we: 1998: Cowboys- DE Greg Ellis, Flozell Adams Redskins- no 1st (Wilkinson trade), Stephen Alexander 1999: Cowboys- Ebenezer Ekuban, Solomon Page Redskins- Champ Bailey, John Jansen 2000: Cowboys- no 1st (Galloway trade), Dwayne Goodrich Redskins- Lavar Arrington, Chris Samuels, no 2nd 2001: Cowboys- no 1st (Galloway trade), Quincy Carter Redskins- Rod Gardner, Fred Smoot Nice try, Chief. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> :[/QB]<hr /></blockquote>Well, I am man enough to say that in the past 5 years your draft classes have been light years ahead Dallas. Congratulations!! But isn't it sad to know with all that talent and excellent drafting those guys are 0-9 against Dallas. They are blue chip players whom have no bragging rights or victories over a rebuilding team. GO FIGURE!!! and what do you guys have to show for the excellent drafting 3 coaching changes, 1 division Title, 1 wild card playoff victory. In my opinion you guys are wasting talent. Right up there with the Bengals and Cardinals of the world. It's not what you have but how you use it. ONCE AGAIN GET REAL!!! [ April 03, 2002, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: Qcard ]

Chief skin · April 3, 2002

the cowpukes are finished the dismal teams JJ has put out on the field the last couple of years posted 5-11 seasons. IT AINT GETTING ANY BETTER UNTIL JJ THE GM GETS A REAL GM OR SELLS THE SORRY *** BUNCH OF BUMS.

Qcard · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Chief skin: the cowpukes are finished the dismal teams JJ has put out on the field the last couple of years posted 5-11 seasons. IT AINT GETTING ANY BETTER UNTIL JJ THE GM GETS A REAL GM OR SELLS THE SORRY *** BUNCH OF BUMS.<hr /></blockquote>JERRY'S PUKES WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT YOUR ALLEGED SUPERBOWL BOUND TEAM. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?

Die Hard · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Qcard: JERRY'S PUKES WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT YOUR ALLEGED SUPERBOWL BOUND TEAM. HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL?<hr /></blockquote>That's all your team has been able to accomplish for the last 3 years. And apparently it's enough to give you an inflated perception of your team?

Die Hard · April 3, 2002

Dallas has gone 5-11 the past 2 years... they add LaRoi Glover and Bryant Westbrook coming off ACL surgery and now I see Cowboys fans posting everywhere talking about playoffs?!?!?!

inmate running the asylum · April 3, 2002

Lets face it guys...the rivalry really isn't the same anymore, since George Allen and Tom Landry moved on. I actually like Jerry Jones, and for a Redskins fan that used to be blasphemy. And as I recall, Jerry Jones made a trade with the Redskins years back, which allowed us to move up in the draft. That was unheard of in the old days of George Allen. And Jerry Jones and Danny Boy get together regularly as friends now. So its not the same rivalry <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> I think I'll pick on that Tom guy [Giants fan] from now on. Remember Tom when we were leading the Giants in 1966 by a score of 69 to 41, and we called a timeout in the last minute of the game, so we could kick a field goal and win 72 to 41? The highest scoring game in NFL history. Now those were the days when we had real rivalries. <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

Skins24 · April 3, 2002

Don't you all realize...Glover is THE man! Remember what he did last time Washington faced him!? That had to be one of our worst games last year. I mean come on now, Davis only had a 5.3 ypc average! What kind of crap is that! And on top of that he only rushed for 111 yards in 3 quarters! My grandma can do better than that! I can't believe we only had 4 rushing touchdowns, and 40 points in that game. Pathetic.

Kilmer17 · April 3, 2002

I hate the Fecals and their fans FAR more than the Pokes. I rank them with the Bucs as the 2nd most hated team.

bulldog · April 3, 2002

I have just one question. Do you think on hindsight Jerry Jones would take back those picks that went for Shaun Alexander and Koren Robinson and return Joey Galloway to the Seahawks? <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

Skins24 · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> I actually like Jerry Jones, and for a Redskins fan that used to be blasphemy. <hr /></blockquote>Used to be? It still is buddy. Synder may appear to be friends with him, but he's just plotting. Waiting for the oppurtunity to.... <img border="0" alt="[hammer]" title="" src="graemlins/hammer.gif" /> to... <img border="0" alt="[Guns]" title="" src="graemlins/guns.gif" /> to... <img border="0" alt="[box]" title="" src="graemlins/boxing.gif" /> to make that idiot... <img border="0" alt="[mecry]" title="" src="graemlins/mecry.gif" /> [ April 03, 2002, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: rskin24 ]

Uptown Skins · April 3, 2002

Speaking of Cryboys, I wonder does bail money factor into Cowboy contract signings?

Die Hard · April 3, 2002

Bulldog - Don't you remember? At the time Joey Galloway was one of the top 3 receivers in the NFL. At least that's what I heard from Cowboy fans <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" />

Skins24 · April 3, 2002

Then you probably have never lived with them or been around them constantly kilmer.

Die Hard · April 3, 2002

Wasn't this supposed to be the year the Cowboys are out of cap hell and had all those millions of dollars to spend? All Jerry Jones has to show for it is LaRoi Glover? I forgot they also overpaid for that longsnapper from the Rams and a rookie backup QB who's been out of football for a couple years. Great offseason.

Qcard · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by bulldog: I have just one question. Do you think on hindsight Jerry Jones would take back those picks that went for Shaun Alexander and Koren Robinson and return Joey Galloway to the Seahawks? <img border="0" title="" alt="[big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>In hindsight yes. The only reason Jerry made that trade is because Troy Aikman lacked a threat at the WRs position when Irvin went down. Jerry was trying to maximize Troy's abilities, but Jerry could not predict that injuries would cut short Troy's career. If Jerry had any idea Troy would not be effective due to injuries he would never had mortgaged the future.

Qcard · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by FunBunch2FunNGun: Speaking of Cryboys, I wonder does bail money factor into Cowboy contract signings?<hr /></blockquote>Do redskins free agent signing include sucking and being overpaid Stubbfield, Deion(Past his prime), Bruce Smith, Mark Carrier, Jeff George, Tony Banks damn I can go on for days.

Qcard · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Die Hard: Wasn't this supposed to be the year the Cowboys are out of cap hell and had all those millions of dollars to spend? All Jerry Jones has to show for it is LaRoi Glover? I forgot they also overpaid for that longsnapper from the Rams and a rookie backup QB who's been out of football for a couple years. Great offseason.<hr /></blockquote>Is the off season over yet. Please don't expect us to go out and sign past their prime over the hill gang. The Redskins gave the whole NFL a brief lesson in "How not to win an Superbowl 101A in 2000"

Tommy-the-Greek · April 3, 2002

Q, I am a realist. The skins will split with the boys and the eagles next year. I just want to ask you one question. When the boys come to fed-ex for the last game of the year. Do you really think your team will have anything to play for? The skins will be playing for a wildcard or maybe even the division title on the line. The cowboys will be lucky to be playing for a 500. season. That is the cold hard truth. Deal with it.

redman · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Qcard: Well, I am man enough to say that in the past 5 years your draft classes have been light years ahead Dallas. Congratulations!! But isn't it sad to know with all that talent and excellent drafting those guys are 0-9 against Dallas. They are blue chip players whom have no bragging rights or victories over a rebuilding team.<hr /></blockquote>Rebuilding team, huh? I suppose that that was the reason why you guys traded away two #1's for Galloway a couple of years ago, right? The fact is that Jerruh has been deluded up until that popping sound in Galloway's knee in week 1 in 2000 that he could make one last Super Bowl run with Aikman and Smith. Don't you even know your own team? Oh, and if you were rebuilding during that time, we see that five years later you're still . . . rebuilding? Again, nice try, Chief. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />

Qcard · April 3, 2002

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tommy-the-greek: Q, I am a realist. The skins will split with the boys and the eagles next year. I just want to ask you one question. When the boys come to fed-ex for the last game of the year. Do you really think your team will have anything to play for? The skins will be playing for a wildcard or maybe even the division title on the line. The cowboys will be lucky to be playing for a 500. season. That is the cold hard truth. Deal with it.<hr /></blockquote>A realist would not make a that kind of a statement when they have a new Head Coach and installing a new offensive system that is unproven and have new defensive coordinator who does not have the talent he had at his disposal previously. A realist would not make such a statement when they do not have QB with any success in this league. On defense they have an aging defensive line. They struggled in the second half of the season the past 2 seasons. A realist would not make such a statement when they know they have no Special team threats. A realist would not make such a statement knowing his team has not made any upgrades at any positions on the team, all they have done is plug in holes via free agency. The Redskins have taken a step back this offseason. A realist would know that the chance of the Cowboys making the playoffs is just as good as the Redskins. Remember Patriots where 5-11 in 2000 as were the Ravens where 8-8 in 1999, so dismissing the Cowboys is very UNREALISTIC!!!!

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