Destino Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by Kilmer17 People who are commenting about what happened with the purge of felons from voters rolls simply have no clue what happened and why. I suggest learning the states laws before making wild and inflammatory racist accusations. Jesse and the hatemongers want you to believe something bad happened when it did not. So you defend the scrubbing of names similar to those of felons? You wouldn't object if a guy with a similar name stopped your family from voting? BS. BTW - the "why" doesn't matter, there is no excuse for taking someone's right away just because you can't narrow down the lists accurately. Harris' inability to do her job is no excuse for what she did. Would Bush have won anyway? Most likely. But I don't like my nation's credibility dragged through the mud because a person felt that stopping felons from voting was worth stopping a greater number of innocent folks. Also the GOP response to her "help" brings in more questions. They are awful thankful to a person whom we are told did nothing special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 So you defend the scrubbing of names similar to those of felons? You wouldn't object if a guy with a similar name stopped your family from voting? No I dont. But that's not what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by Cskin The question is... how can you defend the Democrats tactic of busing poor people to the polls that ND mentioned? I guess it's ok if the Left does it, voter tampering if the Republicans do it. It all goes back to the phrase... "what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander". I didn't defend that at all, nor did I defend MD's governor when he paid blacks homeless people to stand out in front of the polls and ask for voters to support his campaign. Both parties do it, yet between you and me, I'm the only one saying BOTH are wrong. You just spew examples of democrats being bad while avoiding the antics of your own party. Originally posted by Cskin As for the "quotes from the left"... you still don't get it. I gave you quotes from professors of reputable universities all over the country... you give two well-known religious fanatics few take seriously. Big difference..... BIG DIFFERENCE. You are right there is a BIG DIFFERENCE too bad you have it ass backwards. Falwell and Robertson have far greater influence on the GOP then those moronic professors have on the democratic party. Have you ever heard of the "moral majority" who the hell do you think they are talking about? Pat and Falwell are the people behind the religious right movement. They represent a giant portion of your parties base and proof is that Bush has started up the "porn investigations" and other idiocy to appease the fanatics that spend their days worrying about who's seeing naked people instead of putting money in their collection plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 You are right there is a BIG DIFFERENCE too bad you have it ass backwards. Falwell and Robertson have far greater influence on the GOP then those moronic professors have on the democratic party. Right... professors confusing and molding young minds excited about their new right to vote. I think the breeding of young Liberals because "my professor said so" is far more an important issue than people watching Falwell ministries and the 700 club on TV. Nice try... good effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by Cskin The question is... how can you defend the Democrats tactic of busing poor people to the polls that ND mentioned? I guess it's ok if the Left does it, voter tampering if the Republicans do it. It all goes back to the phrase... "what's good for the goose isn't good for the gander". How about "helping people vote is legal"? Is that a good enough distinction? I wasn't aware that owning a car, or a minimum income level, was a prerequisite for voting. Helping people get to the polls is, to use an example, no different from, say, the GOP mailing out absentee ballots, with the voter information pre-filled, to only those voters who're registered Republican. (Now, after those ballots have been filled out, signed, and mailed back to the county, handing the ballots to volunteers from the GOP to "complete" the ballots, at least to me, raises some questions. But no doubt that's OK.) Did the D's hand-pick neighborhoods where they were likely to get the "right" votes? Duh! But it's legal. Cancelling the voting rights of a number of voters (the number still won't be revealed) (in selected counties) isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by Cskin Right... professors confusing and molding young minds excited about their new right to vote. I think the breeding of young Liberals because "my professor said so" is far more an important issue than people watching Falwell ministries and the 700 club on TV. Nice try... good effort. Right....we all know how professors have so much more influence then religious leaders. BTW - "breeding young liberals" hahahahahaha! Sorry buddy but 18 year olds aren't as stupid as you think. My professors had many political view points, none of which affected mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Now, after those ballots have been filled out, signed, and mailed back to the county, handing the ballots to volunteers from the GOP to "complete" the ballots, at least to me, raises some questions. But no doubt that's OK. If you are referring to the court case re: abs. ballots, this is another example of listening to lib pundits and not looking at facts. The FACT is that nobody completed ballots, they completed the ENVELOPES the ballots were mailed in. Totally LEGAL. But I expect that kind of misconception. Afterall, most people think the SCOTUS ruled 5-4 in favor of Bush, when in fact it was 7-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cskin Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Oh yeah... at 18 most kids know the political climate and the subtle differences between the Liberal Left and Conservative Right. Especially after they've endured 12 years of the public school system that indoctrinates them into thinking America is bad and that most of the world's ills are the result of some American participation. People generally don't begin to understand the political enviroment and the true intentions of the parties until it starts to effect their paychecks, investments, and property. For the most part, that doesn't start happening until their mid to late 20's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Cancelling the voting rights of a number of voters (the number still won't be revealed) (in selected counties) isn't. The military right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by Kilmer17 If you are referring to the court case re: abs. ballots, this is another example of listening to lib pundits and not looking at facts. The FACT is that nobody completed ballots, they completed the ENVELOPES the ballots were mailed in. Totally LEGAL. Actually, IIR, what they completed were the ballots. The information they supposedly provided was technical in nature, something like the precinct number that the voter lives in, or some such. Something that was supposed to be pre-filled in by the helpfull GOP in their efforts to make absentee voting convenient. But, they didn't pre-print the information before mailing them. There's nothing necessarily evil about this. It just looks bad when completed ballots are given to voluntees for one political party so that they can be 'completed'. (For all I know, the votes on those ballots had even been counted before they were given to the volunteers.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 That info was on the ENVELOPE not on the ballot itself. what does IIR stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by Cskin Oh yeah... at 18 most kids know the political climate and the subtle differences between the Liberal Left and Conservative Right. Who needs to know anything about liberal/conservative crap? In order to vote all you need is an opinion. If they want to learn the stuff they have to go out and figure it out for themselves just like you and I did. Originally posted by Cskin Especially after they've endured 12 years of the public school system that indoctrinates them into thinking America is bad and that most of the world's ills are the result of some American participation.[/Quote] That's crap. You should really stop believing the idiocy your "alternative" media sources tell you. I went to public school not too long ago and I can tell you first hand that the "US is bad" trash is way overblown. I may have heard a few times that something the US did weren't all smiles and sunshine but guess what....the US isn't perfect and teaching kids that it is, is dishonest. Originally posted by Cskin People generally don't begin to understand the political enviroment and the true intentions of the parties until it starts to effect their paychecks, investments, and property. For the most part, that doesn't start happening until their mid to late 20's. "true intentions" hehehehe Sorry but if you make it about the issues and not all this other trash like "they hate america" politics is pretty straight forward. Although if a party is trying to preach the Religious rights version of morality to young people I can see why they would need to cloud the issue. That sh*t don't sell like it used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Destino: Do you have a copy and paste Anti-American Hate America stamp for each and every thread? What part of the Florida election was good? It was an example of Fubar and a FusterCluck for all of the country to see. The real deal is: Are they any better? I thought I read somewhere the new machines were being touted as anti-minority and might not be used??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 Originally posted by Thiebear Destino: Do you have a copy and paste Anti-American Hate America stamp for each and every thread? Exactly what the hell are you talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted June 7, 2004 Share Posted June 7, 2004 That's crap. You should really stop believing the idiocy your "alternative" media sources tell you. This thread has been derailed long enough, and now it's closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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