semiskin Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Did Gregg Williams coach him in Tenn. or had he not been drafted yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by semiskin Did Gregg Williams coach him in Tenn. or had he not been drafted yet? He wasn't drafted yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kappaluvacee Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 He won't don the burgandy & Goald with that attitude. Gibbs won't even call him. He doesn't sound like a character guy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semiskin Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Die Hard He wasn't drafted yet. Thanks DH, I figured it may have been a year or two after he left but wasn't sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins26 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Splurging on guys like this that get into trouble and dont help that much is how we get into serious salary cap trouble, so far we've spent our money on good people. We should stay away from him unless Gibbs talks with him and feels he can control him. Other than that, our current D Line will have to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominatingDonkeys Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Die Hard Check out rule #13. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/announcement.php?s=&forumid=24 Please follow the rules already Ya I know the rules, but I thought screaming would get it through your noggins that we AREN'T GETTING HAYNESWORTH. Why don't you guys shoot for Kris Jenkings, or someone of that caliber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Again, it all comes down to cost v rewards. First off I'll say that i don't really now how good this guy is. If he's good and we can et him for cheap............let's do it. When i say cheap, i mean NO draft picks and a reasonable salary. I woud imagine that the new team would have the advantage bargaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennyizer Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 You guys are funny. Anytime a newsbit about some random d-linemen comes out you are tripping over yourselves to see if we can get him. Let's calm down. We have some defensive linemen that need to prove themselves and are hungry. True, we won't have a pro-bowler or some 18 sack guy but that's ok. Williams will work with our guys. I'm happy with the pickups we've had on defense. With the new LB's, Bowen back to SS, Taylor causing some problems, and the pickups along the edges and line, I think we will be ok. We might not have a top 5 defense yet, but we should be in the 7-15 range. That will be a big improvement from last season and should be enough to get us in the hunt for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buddha Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I wouldn't mind having him, but wouldn't give up much more than a mid-round draft pick to get him with news of potential character issues. The Titans would be stupid to part with him for that price (and even more stupid to release him), so it's unlikely that he's going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissarmy47 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I don't want him. Sounds like a lockerroom cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNorth Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 He would be one heck of a reclamation project, the kid has a ton of skill and is still very young (23). IMO, he would be worth the gamble, especially if compensation was minimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posse81 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I'd like to see Gibbs and Williams sit down and talk to him and feel this out for a little bit. He certainly has enough upside that we ought to take that step. As it currently stands, we can't collapse the pocket. He could be a force next to Griffin. And while Williams will find ways to get to the QB with our LBs, a strong d-line creates more options for him. It begins and ends on the line, so we SHOULD be feeling out every potential starter that might be available there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Let's get him, hell we had Dexter Manley and look how well he played. Gibbs commands a much higher respect from players because he has a way of dealing with them. The one thing I don't know for sure is just how good this guy could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tmac1577 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 change of scenary might be what haynesworth needs but it would be a huge gamble in my opinion to sign this guy being that he had disrespected one of the best coaches and a players coach at that in jeff fisher pick hugh douglas up sign him to a 1 year deal i dont think gibbs will want this pain in the ass on his team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 You know what I'm getting sick off? The countless 'player X to the Redskins' threads everytime another teams miscreants is possibly going to get cut. We don't need those jackasses on our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Yeah but this is a D-lineman and that's the only area we really seem weak at. Any other position with a "player X" and I'd agree with you. But, D-lineman are hard to find so you have to discuss it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 You know what, a couple of years ago tickle me Elmos were really hard to find. Would you have cut of your pinkie to put one under your kids christmas tree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 OK, I guess I should be happy with what we have and not explore any other options. Didn't Ronnie Lott cut off a finger to win a Super Bowl? Maybe I would do it if it got us another ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 I wouldn't be opposed to talking with him, but my question is if he won't drive a few hours to practice with Tenn, what makes anyone think he'll come all the way to DC to learn a new defense? At least in Tenn he already knows the system. He could miss all of the offseason workouts and still do well if he kept in shape at home. He would have to spend a lot more time away from home if he switched teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butz65 Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by TXREDSKINS44 I don't think Gibbs wants a guy like that on his team!!!! Hmmmm.....anyone remember Dexter Manley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 There's no way he's coming here...he makes T-O seem like a team player. :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 We aren't that desperate and his lack of commitment on a winning team will somehow change when he comes here? put the cap back on the glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by Butz65 Hmmmm.....anyone remember Dexter Manley? Why is it that every time a questionable character is discussed somebody brings up Dexter? It's been a long time so my memory could be failing me, but I don't remember Dexter ever missing practices or that sort of thing. Dexter liked to party and it got him in trouble, especially after he left football, but I don't remember it effecting his play on the field. Am I wrong about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Redskin Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 bird_1972 you say mcnair is one of the classiest acts in the nfl but do you not remember him getting arrested last year for DUI. yea what a guy if he had killed someone like leonard little did maybe we would look at him different. I am not questioning his ability or toughness, I'm just saying he is not so classy. He was also kind of laughing/smirking when he made his comments so I think he was probably just saying what the leader of a team is supposed to say. I wouldn't mind picking up haynesworth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthEast Skin Posted May 5, 2004 Share Posted May 5, 2004 Originally posted by GSF Why is it that every time a questionable character is discussed somebody brings up Dexter? It's been a long time so my memory could be failing me, but I don't remember Dexter ever missing practices or that sort of thing. Dexter liked to party and it got him in trouble, especially after he left football, but I don't remember it effecting his play on the field. Am I wrong about this? Joe Gibbs has told stories about Dexter's behavior during his time as a Redskin. The major difference between then and now is that the media scrutinizes every action now. While Riggo was seen as having flamboyance in his day he would be vilified as a bad role model today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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