klwilkins1977 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 So much for the Super Bowl logo giving clues about who is going to be in the game... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac8887 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, Warhead36 said: You have to be able to make anticipation throws in the middle of the field into tight windows. Daniels has not shown that ability. Maybe he can learn to. Maybe he cant. I seen pundits say that one of jaydens best abilities is layering the ball over the middle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, mac8887 said: I seen pundits say that one of jaydens best abilities is layering the ball over the middle Source? Link? Have you watched his cutups? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, mac8887 said: I seen pundits say that one of jaydens best abilities is layering the ball over the middle Its not. Hes a sideline thrower. And cant throw with anticipation. Hes RG3 2.0 except older and hopefully not with the same ego or body fragility. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, mistertim said: Source? Link? Have you watched his cutups? You do know that "cutups" are not the way to watch film right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 2 minutes ago, ThatNFLChick said: Are the same people who said "Daniels is nothing like Lamar" now using Lamar's play as an excuse not to draft Daniels? It would be hilarious if it wasn't so predictable. No it's a reflection on people wanting quarterbacks not two great dual threat players who aren't surgical from the pocket when needed. What's worse is that Daniels has no sixth sense about getting rocked and he's not built to take that abuse. Notice how Mahomes just knows where to step in and out of the pocket? He doesn't even have to run that much. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac8887 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 3 minutes ago, mistertim said: Source? Link? Have you watched his cutups? I think the one with colt Mccoy also showed him layering the ball over the middle really well. Said his biggest issue is coming off reads to quick. I'd much rather someone come off a read to fast than hold and hitch waiting for a guy to get open. Edited January 28 by mac8887 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, ThatNFLChick said: You do know that "cutups" are not the way to watch film right? Sure, it's not as ideal as all-22 for seeing exactly what routes were run, where all the receivers are, what the coverage is, etc. But for seeing if a QB throws mostly to the boundaries, or if he goes through progressions on most of his throws, they're just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klwilkins1977 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Most of these guys copy opinions from obscure ass articles and try to pretend like their opinions are original: 'from my research. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ghost of said: No it's a reflection on people wanting quarterbacks not two great dual threat players who aren't surgical from the pocket when needed. What's worse is that Daniels has no sixth sense about getting rocked and he's not built to take that abuse. Notice how Mahomes just knows where to step in and out of the pocket? He doesn't even have to run that much. No its an excuse for the same people who loudly proclaimed that 'Daniels is nothing like Lamar' to now hilariously and clumsily backpedal and say 'see what Lamar just did is exactly why we shouldn't draft Daniels' and regurgitate the same talking points to fit their narrative. But how about this? If we are using "comps" to determine whether a QB should be drafted, lets compare Lamar's accolades and W/L record to Allen and Herbert. Get back to me. Edited January 28 by ThatNFLChick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico926 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, Warhead36 said: Its not. Hes a sideline thrower. And cant throw with anticipation. Hes RG3 2.0 except older and hopefully not with the same ego or body fragility. So he passed for 3800 yards and 40 TDs and in the TOUGHEST conference in college football by not throwing with anticipation, not fitting the ball into tight windows and not throwing over the middle? I call BS. Absolute BS. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, mac8887 said: I think the one with colt Mccoy also showed him layering the ball over the middle really well. Said his biggest issue is coming off reads to quick. I'd much rather someone come off a read to fast than hold and hitch waiting for a guy to get open. The guy in this video simply stated that Daniels could throw into tight windows while showing him throwing to wide open guys. lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, ThatNFLChick said: No its an excuse for the same people who loudly proclaimed that 'Daniels is nothing like Lamar' to now hilariously and clumsily backpedal and say "see what Lamar just did is exactly why we shouldn't draft Daniels' and regurgitate the same talking points But how about this? If we are using "comps" to determine whether a QB should be drafted, lets compare Lamar's accolades and W/L record to Allen and Herbert. Get back to me. If Daniels is to have success, its following the Jackson route. Simple offense, one read and rely on mobility. They arent 100% the same style but similar enough. Its hard to sustain and doesnt result in winning championships. Mobility and athleticism is a great bonus but if you cant make big boy NFL throws you cant sustain succes, especially in the postseason when good Ds can take the simple stuff away. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, Warhead36 said: If Daniels is to have success, its following the Jackson route. Simple offense, one read and rely on mobility. They arent 100% the same style but similar enough. Its hard to sustain and doesnt result in winning championships. Mobility and athleticism is a great bonus but if you cant make big boy NFL throws you cant sustain succes, especially in the postseason when good Ds can take the simple stuff away. I'm not interested in the backpedaling now, thanks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 3 minutes ago, ThatNFLChick said: No its an excuse for the same people who loudly proclaimed that 'Daniels is nothing like Lamar' to now hilariously and clumsily backpedal and say "see what Lamar just did is exactly why we shouldn't draft Daniels' and regurgitate the same talking points But how about this? If we are using "comps" to determine whether a QB should be drafted, lets compare Lamar's accolades and W/L record to Allen and Herbert. Get back to me. From what I’ve seen, people have been saying Daniels is nothing like Lamar as a runner. There’s a subtle difference there, which I know you know. And it’s still true. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, pico926 said: So he passed for 3800 yards and 40 TDs and in the TOUGHEST conference in college football by not throwing with anticipation, not fitting the ball into tight windows and not throwing over the middle? I call BS. Absolute BS. You can complain about it all you want. Watch his cutups and you'll see that he rarely goes beyond his first read then bails, his two 1st round WRs are constantly getting very open, he's usually throwing to the boundaries, and he rarely throws balls before his receiver is open or has made his break. So yeah, he did that without throwing often with anticipation or often having to fit the ball into tight windows over the middle. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac8887 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, Warhead36 said: If Daniels is to have success, its following the Jackson route. Simple offense, one read and rely on mobility. They arent 100% the same style but similar enough. Its hard to sustain and doesnt result in winning championships. Mobility and athleticism is a great bonus but if you cant make big boy NFL throws you cant sustain succes, especially in the postseason when good Ds can take the simple stuff away. Daniels has shown this year that he is twice the passer coming out of college then Lamar. Jaydens been over 70% completion 2 years in a row 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, HTTRDynasty said: From what I’ve seen, people have been saying Daniels is nothing like Lamar as a runner. There’s a subtle difference there, which I know you know. And it’s still true. Yes exactly. daniels is a better passer, but note that Daniels is 23. Jackson was 21 when he came out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, HTTRDynasty said: From what I’ve seen, people have been saying Daniels is nothing like Lamar as a runner. There’s a subtle difference there, which I know you know. And it’s still true. No, thats not what they have said and you can scroll back in this thread and read the countless posts for yourself. I'm not entertaining the sudden backpedaling and twisting of the narrative. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, ThatNFLChick said: No, thats not what they have said and you can scroll back in this thread and read the countless posts for yourself. I'm not entertaining the sudden backpedaling and twisting of the narrative. Sounds like someone is big mad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac8887 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, mistertim said: You can complain about it all you want. Watch his cutups and you'll see that he rarely goes beyond his first read then bails, his two 1st round WRs are constantly getting very open, he's usually throwing to the boundaries, and he rarely throws balls before his receiver is open or has made his break. So yeah, he did that without throwing often with anticipation or often having to fit the ball into tight windows over the middle. What would you have him do, throw to less open guys? Hold and hitch and take lots of sacks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTTRDynasty Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, mistertim said: Sounds like someone is big mad. I would be as a Daniels fan too. I’m sure his agent has been throwing things across the room all night 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommandB11 Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 1 minute ago, mistertim said: Sounds like someone is big mad. LOL. He knows he is wrong. But like a child wont admit it and throws a temper tantrum instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Just now, mac8887 said: What would you have him do, throw to less open guys? Hold and hitch and take lots of sacks? Jesus Christ on a hoverboard. Why are you having such a hard time understanding the point here so many times? Nobody is saying that he shouldn't throw to guys who are getting wide open. The problem is that he currently is playing with superior talent and making throws in a way that he absolutely won't be able to do in the NFL. Even top WRs don't get that open and you have to be able to throw into tight windows and with anticipation if you want to succeed. That doesn't necessarily mean he can't learn to do it. But it does mean that he doesn't currently show those NFL level traits or abilities. That's a big risk with a top 3 pick. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatNFLChick Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 4 minutes ago, mistertim said: Sounds like someone is big mad. A childish response like this is unsurprising. I'm not going back and forth cause a bunch of people decided to backpedal and act like they didn't post a million times that Daniels was nothing like Lamar lol. ALLLLLL the posts are right here in this thread. 3 minutes ago, HTTRDynasty said: I would be as a Daniels fan too. I’m sure his agent has been throwing things across the room all night 🙂 Funny. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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