WallyG3 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Just reported on WTEM. Ramsey will have surgery on his foot, he is done for the season. Wise decision, IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BD Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 So much for beating Dallas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 i think we can still beat dallas. good move for ramsey i hope he gets his mobility back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktball74 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I think Hasselback can handle the blitz better then Ramsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Not shocked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 If that's what need to be done, then so be it. Let Ramsey heal up and take notes. It's not like our season is going to be ruined because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Originally posted by ktball74 I think Hasselback can handle the blitz better then Ramsey. The blitz is almost non-existant for Hassleback, because Spurrier calls a more conservative system for him. We won yesturday morning's game against the Giants because we ran the ball 40 times, we lost to the Aints because we threw the ball 40 times. You can't blitz the QB when you're afraid of the run getting past your blitzers for a long game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 While I would agree that putting Ramsey on IR would be wise to let him heal, him not getting the snaps will hurt him. Hopefully next year he'll come out and show that he has learned something from this year. If the Hasselbeck starting experiment showed anything, it's what getting rid of the football quickly can do for you. How many sacks has he taken compared to Ramsey? No one doubts Ramsey's potential, but until he learned to dump the ball off quickly when need be, he'll never be successful, and he'll be taking a beating week after bloody week. (by the way, Symbol: I don't think the play calling, or pass playcalling as been any different under Hasselbeck than under Ramsey, Hasselbeck simply doesn't wait for the plays to open up down the field, and he almost always will take the underneath guy. Probably for a number of reasons, namely he doesn't have the arm strength to get the ball down the field.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I wish him a speedy recovery! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Originally posted by Symbol The blitz is almost non-existant for Hassleback, because Spurrier calls a more conservative system for him. We won yesturday morning's game against the Giants because we ran the ball 40 times, we lost to the Aints because we threw the ball 40 times. You can't blitz the QB when you're afraid of the run getting past your blitzers for a long game. It's more than simply running the ball. They ran more yesterday in large part because of the weather at Giants Stadium than because Tim was in the game. And our loss to the Aints had a bit more to do with the defensive scheme and the lack of some players stepping up and not making mistakes. Hasselback has a much quicker release, and seems to read the defense better than Ramsey at this point. He also has better ‘in-pocket’ mobility. The OL also seems to have put a bit of consistency together. Not sure how Ramsey is the key to beating Dallas – if that were the case, we should not have lost to them earlier in the year when the Cowgirls were begging us to take the win. This game is going to come down to the defense stepping up, and forcing Carter into mistake mode. I think the Dallas D will come after Hasselback, but not the way they came after Ramsey. Speaking of blitzes – have the Redskins run a corner blitz this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Originally posted by Skeletor The Invincible While I would agree that putting Ramsey on IR would be wise to let him heal, him not getting the snaps will hurt him. You're kidding right? This will probably help him. He's has taken a TON of snaps for the past year. From last season, all offseason, all training camp, preseason, and the 9 or whatever games this season. If we're thinking about his long term health, that's plenty, if not too much. You're trying to wear the guy out? I would have loved to see him finish out, but him not getting the snaps will not hurt him one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarhog Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Thats a smart move. And I think Ramsey's a smart kid and will watch how Tim has some success, despite being far less physically talented, and learn a little bit in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffSchmeff Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Here's the ESPN link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1681361 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Hog Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Originally posted by Tarhog Thats a smart move. And I think Ramsey's a smart kid and will watch how Tim has some success, despite being far less physically talented, and learn a little bit in the process. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awesome Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Good move. Sorry it had to come to this, but it's the best long-term decision. Besides, if the foot hurts after slipping on a dirt patch in practice, imagine how bad it would feel getting stepped on and wrenched by Roy Williams, or Brian Urlacher, or Cory Simon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor The Invincible Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 No, I'm not kidding. He's a young kid who needs all the snaps he can get. The more he sees from defenses the more he can learn. It's up to him to take advantage of this year as far as learning is concerned. To me, nothing is too much. I am sure that many starting QBs in this league would tell you that they are still learning how to read defenses, even if they are 10 year vets. But again, I agree with putting him on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Originally posted by Phat Hog Hasselback has a much quicker release, and seems to read the defense better than Ramsey at this point. He also has better ‘in-pocket’ mobility. The OL also seems to have put a bit of consistency together. That is simply not true. Hasselbeck tends to get rid of the ball more quickly, but he most certainly does NOT have a quicker release. It's not particularly close, either. Ramsey has a very, very quick release. He just holds on to the ball too long, trying to let plays develop down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougator Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I was wondering when this would come out. That is why I've been hanging around the site more today. This decision was basicly made end of last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Fakeman Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Ramsey is the future, no doubt....let him chill, and let us lose the rest...and go for Will Smith. PERIOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Originally posted by bayougator I was wondering when this would come out. That is why I've been hanging around the site more today. This decision was basicly made end of last week. No fair holding back! :rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougator Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 I'm ok with the desision. The only thing that Pisses me off is that they are saying it is Pat's decision to do this. Like he's ending his season. It is a office and medical decision. If it was up to him he would be on the field right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WallyG3 Posted December 8, 2003 Author Share Posted December 8, 2003 Originally posted by CrankyTodd No fair holding back! :rotflmao: yeah, Bayou! Where's your loyalty? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Bayou, I doubt anyone is going to question Ramsey's toughness or heart because the media implied he agreed to go on IR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayougator Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Don't think it wasn't killin me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhayunga Posted December 8, 2003 Share Posted December 8, 2003 Ramsey is going to be a great quarteback if we don't get him killed. This is the best thing for him. It will keep him safe until we can get him an offensive line. Remember this is only his 2nd year. He still has a long career (hopefully) ahead of him. He has shown a willingness to put in as many hours as necessary to continue to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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