ABQCOWBOY Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Is there anybody who's monitor isn't just dripping with irony, when they read that? I mean, I imagine Tony Soprano saying that. It's dripping with something, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-01/jpmorgan-assailed-by-russian-ministry-for-blocking-transaction.html JPMorgan Assailed by Russia as Bank Blocks Payment JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM) blocked a payment from a Russian embassy to an affiliate of a U.S.- sanctioned bank, a decision described as “illegal and absurd” by the Foreign Ministry in Moscow. The biggest U.S. bank thwarted a remittance from the Russian embassy in Astana, Kazakhstan, to Sogaz Insurance Group “under the pretext of anti-Russian sanctions imposed by the United States,” the ministry said yesterday in a statement on its website. Sogaz is part-owned by OAO Bank Rossiya, a St. Petersburg-based lender facing U.S. sanctions over the Ukrainian crisis, according to its website. Interfering with the transaction was an “absolutely unacceptable, illegal and absurd decision,” Alexander Lukashevich, a ministry spokesman, said in the statement. U.S. President Barack Obama announced the action against Bank Rossiya last month as part of a broadening of sanctions that targeted government officials and allies of Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose associates own Rossiya. The embassy’s transaction was for less than $5,000 dollars, a person with knowledge of the dispute said, asking not to be identified because such transfers aren’t public. “Any hostile actions against the Russian diplomatic mission are not only a grossest violation of international law, but are also fraught with countermeasures that unavoidably will affect activities of the embassy and consulates of the U.S. in Russia,” Lukashevich said. https://twitter.com/BreakingNews Report: US Navy sending destroyer into the Black Sea in the coming days, 2 senior defense officials say - @NBCNews12:53 PMNASA suspends work with Russia over involvement in Ukraine - @verge2:28 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCpGBq4-sc0 Ukraine's Ousted Leader: I Was 'Wrong' on Crimea Published on Apr 2, 2014 In his first interview since fleeing to Russia, Ukraine's ousted president said Wednesday that he was "wrong" to have invited Russian troops into Crimea and vowed to try to persuade Russia to return the coveted Black Sea peninsula. (April 2) Tomorrow: Ousted Ukrainian Leader Drops Dead of Heart Attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 http://www.reuters.com/article/video/idUSBREA330XB20140404?videoId=303752256 McDonald's closes shop in Crimea (1:29) April 4 - Fast good giant McDonald's closes three restaurants in Crimea citing ''manufacturing reasons,'' offers employees work at locations in Ukraine. Mana Rabiee reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-crisis-pro-russian-movement-creeps-closer-to-kiev/ Ukraine crisis: Pro-Russian movement creeps closer to Kiev Crowds of pro-Russian demonstrators stormed government buildings Sunday in several major cities in eastern Ukraine, where secessionist sentiment has sparked frequent protests since Ukraine's Russia-friendly president was ousted in February. In Donetsk, 50 miles west of the Russian border, a large group of people, including many in masks carrying sticks and stones, surged into the provincial government building and smashed windows. A gathering of several hundred, many of them waving Russian flags, then listened to speeches delivered from a balcony emblazoned with a banner reading "Donetsk Republic." Activists in the building said they want to see a referendum for the Donetsk province to join Russia. An AP photographer reported seeing people bringing car tires to be used as barricades against any presumed attempt by authorities to retake the building. In Luhansk, to the northeast from Donetsk, hundreds of people surrounded the local headquarters of the security service and later scaled the facade to plant a Russian flag on the roof. Ukrainian media reported that demonstrators pelted the building with eggs, and then stones, a smoke grenade and finally a firebomb. The flames were reportedly quickly extinguished. A police officer and a demonstrator were injured in the disturbances. Local media reported similar unrest in Kharkiv, less than an hour's drive from the Russian border. On Saturday, Ukraine's security service said it had detained a 15-strong armed gang planning to seize power in Luhansk province. The Security Service of Ukraine said it seized 300 machine guns, an antitank grenade launcher, a large number of grenades, five handguns and firebombs. https://twitter.com/myroslavapetsa Hundreds of pro-Russian activists in Kharkiv surrounded a dozen of pro-Ukrainian protesters throwing firecrackers and stones 10:05 AM Protesters in Donetsk cheer upon learning pro-Russians in Luhansk negotiated with police the release of their leaders 10:33 AM Separatists in Donetsk issue ultimatum to regional govt: hold emergency session by midnight and call referendum on joining Russia 11:12 AM If regional council doesn't have a quorum by midnight, separatists say will dissolve it and create a people's council instead tomorrow at 12 11:14 AM Ukraine's interim president Oleksandr Turchynov cancels visit to Lithuania, calls an emergency meeting with law enforcement ministers 1:31 PM Horrific video from Kharkiv, where pro-Russia mob forced a handful of pro-Ukraine protesters to crawl to their safety 2:05 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbOHaNp25V4&feature=youtu.be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR BREAKING Kharkiv separatists captured regional administration building. http://unian.net 2:23 PM https://twitter.com/BSpringnote Seems Donetsk playing out in Harkiv now as pro Russia separatists storm oblast administration building. Putin putting on pressure 2:23 PM https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR Kharkiv governor's office, too, seized by pro-Russia separatists. Police show no resistance http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/04/6/7021542/ 2:34 PM Russia seems to have gotten the green light from us to do what they want now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Russia seems to have gotten the green light from us to do what they want now. What took 'em so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Not sure, but this seems to be timed so that it happens simultaneously in various cities in the East and South. Perhaps it took time to set things up. Also they probably wanted to see if there would be more of a backlash by Ukraine or the West, and if the US/West would retaliate elsewhere in the world. And I'm sure they wanted to wait until people were less focused on Ukraine and worries had died down. Now they can make this the baseline if they move in, like they did with the Crimea and assure that they won't move into Western Ukraine. http://www.interpretermag.com/pro-russian-protests-in-the-east/ 1830 GMT: Separatist protesters have captured the Regional Government building in Kharkiv. UNIAN reports that, over the course of only 10 minutes, a few hundred protesters managed to push past two hundred police officers who were guarding the entrance to the building. 2015 GMT: In a worrying echo of events in Crimea, a popular pro-Russian twitter account is claiming that preparations are under way to take control of the airport in Donetsk: In Donetsk the people are preparing to take control of the airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I keep thinking that this policy of "go ahead and storm buildings, trash things, and whatever, and the police won't even arrest anybody (and see if they're actually Russian)" isn't helping much, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Supposedly they don't want to escalate things by getting into a fight with hundreds of people. They have arrested some separatists and their leaders before though. Ukraine's non-escalation policy doesn't seem to have particularly helped them so far though. Well, it may have limited bloodshed, but it certainly hasn't calmed tensions or appeased anyone. On the other hand there are concerns that some security/police elements in the area might be going easy on separatists because of ties or sympathies with Russia. The riot police/Berkut had a lot of links to Russia and the former president of Ukraine, but I think they've been disbanded (some have come back as thugs to help separatists). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 At this point Ukraine should just dismantle their army and police forced and instead have them pass out refreshments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 LOL, some guy on twitter keeps asking me if we have Russia Today (RT) banned where I am because he thinks I don't know anything about Ukraine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I just keep thinking that one of these times, when some government building gets stormed, if they'd just arrest everybody inside the building. Charge them with trespass or vandalism or some such. Sentence to one day in jail or some such. But, identify everybody who was in there. And I wouldn't be at all surprised if a dozen of them turned out to be Russian "people who aren't soldiers". At which point, I think that treatment in accordance with the rules for "enemy soldiers caught in somebody else's country, out of uniform" comes into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Right... Hagel is telling China, just because we sold non aligned Ukraine down the river, largely because of our wussyfied european allies ( Germany, France, Italy ).... They shouldn't expect the same kind of treatment because South Korea and Japan aren't so wussyfied. Also while NATO has been reduced to about 2 military ready brigades, All those divisions which left Europe are now facing China. ( see assian piviot ). US defence chief (Chuck Hagel) warns China, drawing parallel with CrimeaTokyo (AFP) - Pentagon chief Chuck Hagel on Sunday warned China against unilateral action to resolve territorial disputes with its neighbours, drawing a parallel with Russia's incursion in Ukraine as he announced two more warships would be sent to Japan. Seeking to reassure Washington's longtime ally Japan, Hagel's remarks and promise of more missile defence ships came as Tokyo faces a tense row with Beijing over islands in the East China Sea. "All nations deserve respect, no matter how large or how small," Hagel said during a visit to Tokyo. "I think we're seeing some clear evidence of a lack of respect, and coercion and intimidation with ... what the Russians have done in Ukraine," he told a news conference with his Japanese counterpart, Itsunori Onodera. Countries had to speak up and reject such a blatant violation of international law, said Hagel, referring to Russia's annexation of Ukraine's Crimean peninsula. And in a veiled reference to China and its territorial arguments with Asian neighbours, Hagel said smaller countries had the same sovereign rights as larger states. http://news.yahoo.com/us-defence-chief-warns-china-over-territorial-claims-051903183.html;_ylt=AwrTWf3sjUFTDWcAddrQtDMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/07/us-ukraine-crisis-storm-idUSBREA350B420140407?feedType=RSS&feedName=worldNews Pro-Russia protesters seize Ukraine buildings, Kiev blames Putin Pro-Russian protesters seized state buildings in three east Ukrainian cities on Sunday, triggering accusations from the pro-European government in Kiev that President Vladimir Putin was orchestrating "separatist disorder". The protesters stormed regional government buildings in the industrial hub of Donetsk and security service offices in nearby Luhansk, waving Russian flags and demanding a Crimea-style referendum on joining Russia. Protesters also later seized the regional administrative building in Kharkiv, Ukraine's second largest city, Interfax news agency reported. All three cities lie close to Ukraine's border with Russia. https://twitter.com/Kateryna_Kruk clean from separatists, building of Kharkiv regional administration is now back under Ukraine control 2:59 AM in Luhansk separatists occu. bld. of Security Service and took all weapon. roads leading to city are blocked by road police. Security Service is looking for ppl involved in seizure 3:08 AM https://twitter.com/MaximEristavi Barricaded Donetsk govt building this morning via @ostro_v pic.twitter.com/flEoTbUXJh 3:08 AM Donetsk govt building right now, seized by pro-Russia militia via @novostidnua pic.twitter.com/9CvlDEh9zj 3:10 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak Reuters: Ukraine Defence Ministry says a Russian soldier has killed a Ukrainian naval officer in Crimea 3:45 AM https://twitter.com/bishopk Interfax reporting that the Kharkiv regional government building still in Russian protestors' hands http://www.interfax.ru/world/369866 4:09 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://live.aljazeera.com/Event/Ukraine_liveblog/112324395 Latvia bans Russian state TV broadcasts: Latvia is joining Lithuania in banning Russian state television broadcasts because it found that several programmes about the Ukraine crisis were tendentious and not in the Baltic nation's security interests. A three-month suspension of broadcasts of all Rossiya RTR's programmes begins April 8, following a decision by the Latvian National Electronic Mass Media Council, the watchdog's spokeswoman Sanita Blomniece told The Associated Press on Monday. The council said the decision was prompted by findings of the Latvian Security Police, which said events in Ukraine in several Rossiya reports last month were presented in a way that justified "military aggression against a sovereign state." It also said they were "dominated by the view that despite international law, the president of the Russian Federation has every right to use the military in Ukraine to defend Russian speakers." A Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman in Moscow denounced the Latvian decision. Pnsyantin Dolgovsaid on Twitter called Latvia's ban "the latest attempt to censor inconvenient information and a violation of fundamental rights on access to mass media." [AP] https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/international/542405-pro-russians-proclaim-independence-for-ukraines-donetsk Pro-Russians proclaim independence for Ukraine's Donetsk Ukraine faced a fresh secessionist crisis on Monday as pro-Kremlin militants occupying the Donetsk government seat proclaimed independence from Kiev and vowed to hold a referendum on joining Russia. The declaration and accompanying appeal for Russian military assistance put the culturally splintered nation of 46 million in danger of disintegration and intensified pressure on Western powers to act. The White House responded by calling on the Kremlin to stop trying to "destabilize Ukraine" - a comment that echoed Kiev's earlier charge of Russia seeking to "dismember" its neighbor. The political pressure on Kiev's embattled leaders reached boiling point on Sunday when thousands of activists chanting "Russia!" seized administration buildings in Kharkiv and Donetsk as well as the security service headquarters in the eastern region of Lugansk. The Donetsk activists went one step further on Monday by proclaiming the creation of a sovereign "people's republic" in the region of about five million people. A video posted on YouTube showed one bearded Russian speaker telling the packed assembly from a podium: "Seeking to create a popular, legitimate, sovereign state, I proclaim the creation of the sovereign state of the People's Republic of Donetsk." More footage aired on Ukraine's Channel 5 television showed an unidentified speaker asking Russian President Vladimir Putin to send a "peacekeeping contingent of the Russian army" to Donetsk to help the region stand up to Kiev's rule. https://twitter.com/NATOSource Czech President Zeman: If Russia moved into more of Ukraine, I would plead 4 EU sanctions & even "NATO forces entering Ukrainian territory" 12:48 PM https://twitter.com/BSpringnote White House Press Secretary “there is strong evidence suggesting some of these demonstrators were paid and were not local residents.” 12:47 PM Word now that separatists are storming Mikolaev Oblast administration 1:00 PM https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR In Mykolaiv, 30 pro-Russia separatists ready 2 storm governor's office http://www.pravda.com.ua/news/2014/04/7/7021663/ … @Ukroblogger Ukraine pic.twitter.com/GxdA70HAfe1:03 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichmondRedskin88 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 how much more before someone makes a move to stand up to this? Are we just gonna hand over Ukraine and protect the other countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/497695.html Ukraine Protesters Request Russian 'Peacekeepers' Fesenko agreed with Illarionov's statement that although separatist sentiment existed in eastern regions, most people did not support joining Russia. Fesenko agreed with Illarionov that, though separatist sentiment existed in eastern regions, most people did not support joining Russia. He cited a February poll according to which only 33.2 percent of respondents in the Donetsk region, 24.1 percent in the Luhansk region and 15.1 percent in the Kharkiv region backed the idea. This represents a sharp contrast with Crimea, where more people were believed to support joining Russia last month. According to a poll taken in February by the Kiev International Sociology Institute, 41 percent of Crimea's population supported joining Russia, and 96.8 voted for accession to Russia in the March 16 referendum, according to the official results. Though most people in Ukraine's eastern regions are Russian-speaking, ethnic Ukrainians accounted for 56.9 percent in the Donetsk region, 70.7 percent in the Kharkiv region and 58 percent in the Luhansk region, as opposed to just 24 percent in Crimea, according to the 2001 census, which was the last one conducted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/natosource/ukraine-crisis-exposes-gaps-between-germany-and-nato Ukraine Crisis Exposes Gaps Between Germany and NATO Frank-Walter Steinmeier wasted little time after returning to Berlin from the NATO foreign ministers' meeting in Brussels last week. He went straight to parliament to inform German lawmakers of the decisions reached. And he did so in the manner which he would like to be perceived as he negotiates the ongoing Crimea crisis: calm, reserved and to-the-point. Indeed, the only time he showed any emotion at all during last Wednesday's meeting of the Foreign Affairs Committee was when he spoke of NATO General Secretary Anders Fogh Rasmussen.Earlier, Rasmussen had published an op-ed in the German daily Die Welt saying that the path to NATO membership was fundamentally open to Ukraine. "The right of sovereign states to determine their own way forward is one of the foundations of modern Europe," he wrote. That, though, marked a significant departure from Germany's own focus on de-escalating the burgeoning confrontation with Russia. "NATO membership for Ukraine is not pending," Steinmeier huffed. He said that foreign policy was in danger of becoming militarized, adding that it was about time for political leaders to regain the upper hand. http://www.naharnet.com/stories/en/125574 U.S. Sends Warship to Black Sea amid Ukraine Crisis The Pentagon confirmed Monday that the United States is sending a guided missile destroyer to the Black Sea in order to reassure European allies in the region following Russia's annexation of Crimea. "We have decided to send a ship into the Black Sea. We expect it will arrive there within a week," said Pentagon spokesman colonel Steven Warren, without disclosing the name or type of the vessel citing "operational security." A Department of Defense official confirmed to Agence France Presse the warship being sent to the region was the USS Donald Cook, a guided missile destroyer. The boat was recently upgraded to make it capable of firing SM-3 missiles, allowing the ship to function as part of the Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System. The boat has been deployed at the Spanish naval base in Rota in order to serve as part of the proposed NATO missile shield. NATO insists the missile shield is a purely defensive system designed to counter potential missile threats from nations such as Iran. However it has long been a source of tension between NATO and Russia, which sees the project as a threat to its own security. Warren insisted the deployment of the Donald Cook was meant only to reassure regional allies. "The purpose is primarily to reassure our allies and partners in the region that we're committed to the region," he said. "We're still planning the details of our operations in the Black Sea but we expect port calls and exercises with other Black Sea nations." https://twitter.com/HannahAllam State Dept re: separatist movements in east: Ukrainian govt leaders are en route to these cities to negotiate evacuation of govt buildings. 1:45 PM State Dept: US officials 'day by day' evaluate steps vs Russia re: 'escalatory' moves. Events of past 24hrs 'incredibly concerning' to US 1:47 PM State Dept: Russian forces moving into E Ukraine - overtly or covertly - would be a 'v serious escalation.' Can't confirm movement, numbers 1:49 PM State re: seizure of opera house instead of city hall: If you don't know which building you're taking over, you're probably not local. 1:51 PM State Dept: If Russia continues to take escalatory steps, then we're willing to take additional sanctions steps. 1:59 PM https://twitter.com/markmackinnon It spreads. RT @RT_com: BREAKING: Activists in Ukraine's Kharkov proclaim the region 'independent republic' http://on.rt.com/xhz2zu 2:59 PM https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR Donetsk: It’s reported that special police forces Alpha freed SSU building from the separatists. More info to follow. -FB 3:03 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 http://barentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2014/04/putin-readies-arctic-territorial-claims-07-04#.U0K0-uUeyRs.twitter Putin readies Arctic territorial claims Meeting with President Vladimir Putin on Friday, Minister of Natural Resources Sergey Donskoy confirmed that Russia will have its Arctic claims prepared after summer. The claims will be submitted to the UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf (CLCS) in spring 2015, the minister said. Russia this year successfully got the CLCS’s support for its expansion in the Sea of Okhotsk, and has high hopes that the Commission will approve also the far bigger claims in the Arctic. According to Donskoy, the application should be submitted to the UN commission in early 2015 before a planned change of commission members. ”We have good and constructive interrelations with them, we know them and they know us […] we understand which questions that will be address to us”, Donskoy told the President. Russia has since 2007 actively studied the Arctic sea bed as part of its bid to the UN body. A last Arctic expedition on the issue will be conducted this summer, the Kremlin informs. https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM Sergei Lavrov for @guardian: 'Main danger for future of Ukraine is the spread of chaos by extremists and neo-Nazis.' http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/07/sergei-lavrov-russia-stabilise-ukraine-west 2:33 PM A ballsy Lavrov: 'De-escalation should begin w/ rhetoric. Time to stop groundless whipping-up of tension, return to serious common work.' 2:36 PM Prez Admin head: Antiterrorist op commences in Donetsk, SBU retakes SBU bldg from separatists pic.twitter.com/pc6TIsiMnG http://censor.net.ua/news/279900/v_donetske_nachalas_antiterroristicheskaya_operatsiya_osvobojdeno_zdanie_sbu_pashinskiyi 3:54 PM https://twitter.com/RolandOliphant The 21:55 Aeroflot flight from Moscow to Donetsk was mysteriously cancelled tonight. What the hell, back on the train then. 1:23 PM Lots of pics of "pro Russian activists" with straight out of the box shiny AK-74's going around. Kind of familiar... 2:37 PM Meanwhile, SBU special forces retake buildings in Donetsk, reports of flash grenades and god knows what else ruckus in Kharkiv. 4:08 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 https://twitter.com/MiddleEast_BRK Kharkiv right now. Pro Russian militants burn Ukrainian administration building. pic.twitter.com/43YfePs1Vw 4:26 PM https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR Kharkiv: separatists burning tires & trying to throw them inside of RSA building. Police trying to prevent it -@Hromadske 4:07 PM Kharkiv: Separatists trying to block the fire trucks -@Hromadske 4:27 PM Kharkiv: Firetrucks still can’t get to the RSA building, police trying to put out fire themselves @Hromadske 4:35 PM https://twitter.com/ARothNYT Pro-Russian protestors failing to take the Kharkiv administration are doing the next best thing: burning it down with Molotov ****tails. 4:32 PM https://twitter.com/myroslavapetsa Fire at Kharkiv region administration where police are barricaded. Protesters block fire-engines. First Molotovs thrown into the building 4:32 PM https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM Fires burning at Kharkiv regional government building. Life feed here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAwX-9fP9Vo&feature=share and here http://www.ustream.tv/channel/kharko 4:30 PM https://twitter.com/StateOfUkraine https://twitter.com/MillerMENA Ukraine Liveblog: Police appear to have put the fires out at Kharkiv regional admin building http://bit.ly/1mUFPAA pic.twitter.com/L1jyD79c8c 4:42 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 how much more before someone makes a move to stand up to this? Are we just gonna hand over Ukraine and protect the other countries? Well, I think the former is pretty well established. The latter? Well, we SAY we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 https://twitter.com/mike_giglio I was in the Donetsk gov building hours before it was cleared last time around. That occupation had nothing on tonight's. 5:15 PM Young protester in motorcycle helmet in Donetsk gov building: "We will fight until the end. We hope it won't get bloody. We don't want war." 5:25 PM Protester in Donetsk gov building: "We will do like we did in Crimea. The referendum was not allowed by the authorities in Kiev there too." 5:32 PM A few of the guards who escorted me though the occupied Donetsk gov building said they were actually from Crimea, and had just arrived today 5:34 PM To get in Donetsk gov building: pass thru crowd of guards w clubs, wind path thru tires + more guards w clubs. 100s of guards w clubs inside 5:45 PM https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPR BREAKING Oligarh Akhmetov came to the Donetsk RSA building for negotiations with separatists.He says:"Donetsk is Ukraine" @novostidnua 6:23 PM Police gives several hours for separatists to leave the Donetsk RSA. All lights turned off in the building 6:35 PM https://twitter.com/myroslavapetsa Akhmetov talked to protesters near Donetsk regional office, departed with separatist representative for talks with govt to stop crackdown 6:32 PM https://twitter.com/mike_giglio Seems far too many people at gov building in Donetsk for cops to clear it w/o, as one protester put it, "giving Russia an excuse to invade." 6:39 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexey Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 I walked by that burned building in Kharkiv many times as a child. We lived about 5 blocks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionary Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/04/ukraine-raids-terrorists-kharkiv-20144843036887904.html Ukraine raids pro-Russian separatists Ukraine has launched an "anti-terrorist" operation in the southeastern city of Kharkiv and has arrested about 70 "separatists" for seizing the regional administration building, Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov has said. Avakov posted on his Facebook page on Tuesday: "An anti-terrorist operation has been launched. The city centre is blocked along with metro stations. Do not worry. Once we finish, we will open them again." Ukraine's Interior Ministry was quoted as saying by Interfax-Ukraine news agency that those detained were suspected of "illegal activity related to separatism, the organisation of mass disorder, damage to human health" and breaking other laws. In response, Russia's foreign ministry issued a statement calling on Kiev to stop the operation, warning that it "could lead to an outbreak of civil war". Earlier, acting Ukrainian President Oleksandr Turchynov had pledged that "anti-terrorist measures" would be taken against protesters who had armed themselves. Turchynov said the action in Kharkiv, Donetsk and Luhansk showed that Russia was "playing out the Crimean scenario" - a reference to the Russian takeover and annexation of the peninsula last March. The developments prompted the US to warn Russia to stop further destabilising efforts in Ukraine after pro-Russia protesters declared an independent republic in the region of Donetsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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