DRSmith Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Since Latinos now make the second largest segment of the population and the fastest growing part will this change some of the rhetoric concerning immigration reform? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Not since many support it,been plenty down here for ages...of course our's have better sense than the Cali ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It probably will. Population isn't the biggest driver though. It's voting blocks and economic power. Sheer numbers are useful, but power revolves around those who spend or have the most to spend. Also, those that vote in big blocks tend to be listened to. Heck, voting is one of the reasons the Jewish population has force. Despite being only about 4% of the country we tend to be active and advocate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Since Latinos now make the second largest segment of the population and the fastest growing part will this change some of the rhetoric concerning immigration reform? Hispanics have been the largest minority in this country for more than a decade. Certainly they are a very powerful political force and both parties would love for Hispanics to make them their permanent home... which only adds to their power. There are two limiting factors to this growing political power however which are still commanding. (1) The dramatic growth and illegal nature of the Hispanics growth population wise, and thus political wise has spawned a sort of backlash which is still persistent. (2) Hispanics unlike a few other minority groups.. ( African Americans, Jews, Mormons etc) tend not to vote as a block or consistently for either party. They are social conservatives typically which makes Republicans attractive, but they are also fiscal liberals which tends to make the Democrats attractive. Hispanics don't typically self identify as Hispanic... rather they identify as Cuban, Mexican, or el salvadorian. This lack of consensus severely limits their ability to organize or really obtain representative voice their population would otherwise command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted March 25, 2011 Author Share Posted March 25, 2011 Mormons are a religion And seem to sit on both sides of the aisle ala Harry Reid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison Redskin Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I don't think the census data will change the rhetoric one bit. For every politician who wants to court the Hispanic and immigrant vote, there's another that wants to court the anti-immigrant vote. The census data does, however, suggest that things will change in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar78 Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 It's more about being organized than just being of the same ethnicity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
endzone_dave Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 In my 3rd grade son's study guide for important American people, 3 were white, 3 were black, and 1 was hispanic. I imagine 10 years from now it will be 1 white, 3 black, and 3 hispanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 http://babalublog.com/2010/11/legals-not-in-support-of-illegals/ First, yeah, I know ... More "Latino" references. Second, what exactly do these people pushing the "undocumented worker" meme think? That everyone in Arizona supporting Gov. Jan Brewer's re-election and agreeing with her on AZ SB 1070 are all white? And do they really believe other states with heavy "Hispanic" LEGAL populations just agreed with illegal aliens invading this country simply because they were the same 'race'? This effects them and their communities too. Not only that, but I have to believe they feel a bit unjustly put on the spot, not by such laws as AZ SB 1070, but by those who come across the border and commit crimes, strain the system and create so much heated controversy that has the ignorant MSM and politicians wrongly grouping citizens and illegal aliens together simply by their ethnicity. This was put on display recently with Obama's 'calling-out' of "Latinos" to "punish our enemies". And now he tries to walk-it-back. Sure. Damage is done. Latinos souring on illegal immigration A new study shows Latinos have soured considerably on illegal immigration in the last three years. In 2007, 50percent of Latinos surveyed told the Pew Hispanic Center that the growing number of illegal immigrants was a positive force for the existing Latino population. In a Pew survey released Thursday, that number had plummeted to 29percent. Thirty-one percent said illegal immigration had a negative effect, and 20percent said it had no effect. While the wording of the question changed slightly in 2010 - striking the phrase "growing number" to reflect studies that show illegal immigration declining - several local advocates on different sides of the issue called the change in perception unsurprising. Those Inland Empire voices diverged significantly, however, when it came to explaining the shift and what it means for immigration policy. Raymond Herrera, president and founder of a Claremont-based group called We the People, California's Crusader, said political will has been shifting since 2004. Herrera said that's when activists like him began loudly calling for reform, slowly building what he said is a national consensus that illegal immigrants should be deported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 There is almost no one, even amongst Hispanics, that support the status quo but the Hispanic community isn't behind Raymond Herrera either. The vast majority of Hispanics support comprehensive immigration reform, even amongst REPUBLICAN Hispanics, which secures the border but also provides a path to citizenship provided by something like the Dream Act. People citing the 31% number just give me a chuckle because the question on immigration reform has never been the positive or negative impact of illegals. The question is what to do with the 11 million that are here and how to prevent another 11 million from showing up. Mass deportations won't go over well with the Hispanic community, or any American with enough intelligence to consider what that means. The immigration system TODAY RIGHT NOW can't handle the number of deportations it's tasked to deal with and suspected illegals are confined to holding centers from months to years with no options. Those with family members that are immigrants will no first hand what Americans can't seem to accept - the US immigration system is broken badly. It gets no attention because Americans will never experience it and frankly don't give a damn. Comprehensive immigration reform or nothing is my position (and it has been since before Bush proposed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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