HailGreen28 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 good offensive lines? A great running game? Outstanding defense?I give up, what? Enlighten us, sir. making clutch plays!at least tony Romo sits to pee could throw a td last weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mi6 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 You overlooked the fact that for 2 straight weeks we've had the lead in the 4th quarter only for our defense to choke it on up and allow the opposing team to take the lead on their final possession.You also compared Campbell to Brady and Manning, the 2 greatest QB's of this generation. Doesn't really seem fair IMO... what do you think? I guess I should talk about how I think Orakpo is a terrible player because of the things Derrick Thomas would do week in and week out.... But, then comparing this battered and torn O-Line with some of the best isn't fair either. There are other O-Lines in the NFL that are just as bad, and their QBs still make plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 True but sometimes.....ust SOMETIMES.....we need the Offense to extend our lead by more than just 1 ****ing TD. When we have the lead we SIT on it like some pansies. The top scoring offenses in the league continue to harass and embarrass their opponents, thus they put up 30-40 points regularly. Thats on the coaching staff... I was really upset in the 4th quarter when we had the lead and we were content with running the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I don't understand what kind of retarded athlete can't figure out how to slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeJGibbs Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 God Orakopo is a waste of a pick ... when did he take over a game like Derrick Thmoas .... A rookie Defensive End is not going to come into the NFL wrecking shop. He's just not. It's very rare that it happens. Kearse was the last one I can remember - but he was a pure athlete and had an NFL body coming out of college. They take time to develop their technique when they are now facing offensive lineman that are way bigger, faster & more agile than anything they've seen in the NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpheusmeyers Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 One thing is pretty constant. He's never pulled out a win from the 2-minute drill. How many times has Campbell had an opportunity to pull out a 2 minute game winning drive? I honestly don't know. Off the top of my head I can remember two games back to back in 2007 against Tampa and Dallas where he chucked game ending ints. There was last week where he tossed a game ending pick. And this week where he skipped a pass on 4th and 1 to end the game. I don't think he has ever led a game winning 2 minute drive. But how many has he come up short on? 0 for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoRUSupposed2Be Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Guess what the difference between Tony freakin Romo sits to pee and Candle was the game before this one? Why Eli got a massive contract, and Big Ben two rings? Let me guess, the two-minute drill. Campbell is one dimensional. He doesn't move side to side, because he is moving backwards or forwards. I'm not kidding.I'll bet anybody a virtual pumpkin that Campbell has a concussion and may have played his last game with the Redskins. Well, if so, then I've watched my last game this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 They had a graphic on today, he has 7 times. Winning in the final 2 minutes is not the same as: He has 7 game-winning or game-tying drives in the 4th quarter or overtime. I would like to see how that compares to other qbs, as 7 doesn't sound like a lot compared to how many he's played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Look at the post below yours. It was up on the screen today during the game.I see. Then how the hell are we 3-8 for the year? That stat may be technically correct, but something doesn't jibe there. Considering we're 3-8, I'd hardly say candle is bailing us out of any games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 But, then comparing this battered and torn O-Line with some of the best isn't fair either. There are other O-Lines in the NFL that are just as bad, and their QBs still make plays. There is no O-line in the NFL currently as bad as the Redskins' We've got a guy who doesn't belong on the practice squad starting at RG. We've got a guy who was on the street all offseason and halfway through the season starting at LT... Green Bay had some injuries.. they didn't lose 3 guys for the season... They lost them for several games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaimeDeCurry Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 making clutch plays!at least tony Romo sits to pee could throw a td last weekend. Oh right, right. I forgot that none of that other stuff helps a team win. It was right after we were 6-2 last year that the NFL switched over to 5-on-5 passing drills instead of full 11-on-11 games, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 No, teams stacked the box and doubled Moss, knowing that Candle couldn't beat them. Again, some QBs step up and make plays. Not ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaimeDeCurry Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 I see. Then how the hell are we 3-8 for the year? That stat may be technically correct, but something doesn't jibe there. Considering we're 3-8, I'd hardly say candle is bailing us out of any games. "Technically" correct? Just because it's a stat you don't like, don't trivialize it because it proves your idea that he can't come back in the 4th quarter wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Wait...So JC isn't Peyton or Tom?!?! Wow. Shocker. These JC threads are just getting dumb now. Why complain about him? He won't be here next year. The season is lost. What's the point? I've began turning my focus to other parts of the team. I've been rather impressed by our young guys at the skilled positions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Our O-line is full of guys who would not be in the NFL if not for Washington. Stephon Heyer Edwin Williams Levi Jones Mike Williams D'anthony Batiste I mean seriously.... the fact that this team put up 24 points today is amazing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Wait...So JC isn't Peyton or Tom?!?!Wow. Shocker. These JC threads are just getting dumb now. Why complain about him? He won't be here next year. The season is lost. What's the point? I've began turning my focus to other parts of the team. I've been rather impressed by our young guys at the skilled positions.. I truly feel bad for our QB next season man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 "Technically" correct? Just because it's a stat you don't like, don't trivialize it because it proves your idea that he can't come back in the 4th quarter wrong.I'm not trivializing it. Being 3-8 makes it trivial. WE ONLY WON THREE GAMES. Your stat may be true. Saying that Candle doesn't win games for us in the fourth quarter, like today, is equally valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue collar Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 "Technically" correct? Just because it's a stat you don't like, don't trivialize it because it proves your idea that he can't come back in the 4th quarter wrong. That stat doesn't really mean all that much. It does not mean he is anywhere near clutch. It was 4th quarter comebacks, not 2 minute comebacks. In other words, if the Skins trailed 13-10 entering the 4th quarter and we won 17-13, that's a 4th quarter comeback. Not exactly the same as trailing 13-10 with 2 minutes left with the ball on our own 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 He is a coward and crumbles when the game is on the line. That has been the case his entire NFL career. Not running for the 1st down is inexcusable. Today guaranteed that he will finish his Redskins career having never had a winning season during a period in which the Redskins made the playoffs every year he didn't fiinish as starting QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 during a period in which the Redskins made the playoffs every year he didn't fiinish as starting QB. So, the one year? Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 So, the one year? Haha. Two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailGreen28 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 So, the one year? Haha.Two years, 2005 and 2007. We made the playoffs with candle on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 So, the one year? Haha. I'm convinced the extreme "Anti-JCers" are much worse than the extreme "JC-supporters"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaimeDeCurry Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 That stat doesn't really mean all that much. It does not mean he is anywhere near clutch. It was 4th quarter comebacks, not 2 minute comebacks. In other words, if the Skins trailed 13-10 entering the 4th quarter and we won 17-13, that's a 4th quarter comeback. Not exactly the same as trailing 13-10 with 2 minutes left with the ball on our own 20. I'm not really saying it means anything or not. Just that it's a fact. Somebody said he never does it, I said he's done it seven times. It only really means anything when compared to other quarterback's opportunities. I don't know if there's realistically a way to compare it against another QB's first 21 opportunities or whatever Campbell's had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drastik Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 Two years, 2005 and 2007. We made the playoffs with candle on the bench. Well the original comment said years in which Campbell didn't finish as starting QB. He didn't start as the starting QB in 2005, he didn't even play a down in 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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