Renegade7 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I believe we can all collectively agree that the offensive side of the ball needs a massive overhaul just to be competitive in 2010. Curious on ya'lls opinion on at least who should be held over for the offense in 2010. Zorn is most likely gone after this season (not his fault, but he wasn't ready for this madness that is redskins nation), so do take this into consideration, WCO in DC could be dead at the end of 2009. Todd Collins - If we draft a QB this offseason or the next, I'd like them to prove they are better then a "Todd Collins" before being given the keys. Our defense is good enough that a decent offense lead by a veteran QB can win football games Clinton Portis - We need a better all around running back, but Portis would be a helluva #2 with his power running and pass-blocking Santana Moss - If we blow up the WR core, I believe that Santana would be money in the slot, more so then ARE was supposed to be. He's not a starter anymore in my eye at least Chris Cooley - Our best offensive player, we'd be insane to let him walk Derrick Dockery - Shouldn't start, but would provide the quality depth we just don't have right now Mike Williams - Another who shouldn't start but I like the idea of him coming in on Jumbo packages with a quality o-line Marko Mitchell / Fred Davis - Too much of a talent to just let walk. If they don't work, they don't work, but if you hold over any of the young receivers, these should be the two. Potential is very cliche', I know, but I like their upside as opposed to the others. *** To me, everyone I didn't mention on the offensive side of the ball is expendable and we shouldn't go out of our way to keep in DC. Trade 'em, cut 'em, don't care, I won't miss them. That includes Jason Campbell. I've defended him as long as I can, but he just didn't look like a starting QB today. Didn't take advantage of the few oppurtunities given to him and could not get his offense to wake up and beleive in themselves. His teammates and his coach has lost faith in him, regardless of what they say, and he does not deserve another contract. The money can be spent elsewhere. Sameuls is an injury away from getting seriously hurt for the rest of his life. Cap hit aside, I hope he retires for his own sake. He's given us a lot of good years, but it's finally time to move on and let go. I'm not leaving my team, skins fan all day. Right now, if our offense keeps playing like it did against argueably the worst defense in the league, we might beat Oakland and that's it for 2009. Our defense is awesome, but unless they start scoring points for us, it's over. A lot questions are going to be answered between now and the Atlanta game. Eagles at home and the bye could prove to be the beginning of the end or a run for competitiveness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan190 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 There is actually another tread just like this already http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=304674 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 http://www.extremeskins.com/showthread.php?t=304674 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM916 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 We aren't going to beat Oakland, not the way their DL has been playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Cuts: Portis, Rabach, Thomas, Betts Depends on who we draft: Heyer, M. Williams, Cartright, Trade: Cooley (Get what you can for him because we are going to suck for the next few) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade7 Posted October 19, 2009 Author Share Posted October 19, 2009 Kinda multi-tasking right now, didn't see that. Sorry ya'll, can close this if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito-01 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 O-Line: Cassey Rabach Chris Samuel will retire. Randy Thomas is a has been. Derrick Dockery, Will Montgomery, Edwin Williams, and Stephan Heyer are decent as backup. So, we need 4 new linemen. New LT, LG, RT, and RG. I would let go Chris Rhinehart, Mike Williams. WRs: Santana Moss, Malcom Kelly, Devin Thomas, Marko Mitchell. Antwaan Randle El has to go. There is no room on the roster for this ineffective WR. If I have draft picks remaining, I would draft one. But, not a top priority at the moment. TEs: Chris Cooley, Fred Davis. I would release Todd Yoder. Hasn't done much for us. FBs: None. Would let Mike Sellers go curb side. RBs: Clinton Portis, Anthony Alridge. Would release Ladell Betts, Marcus Mason, and Rock Cartwright. I would draft a BIG, TALL, POWERHOUSE RB. Someone along the lines of an Adrian Peterson. QBs: Todd Collins, Andre Woodson Would cut or trade Jason Campbell and Colt Brennan. Would draft a genuine cerebral franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Have to keep Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, and Fred Davis. A real QB in a real offensive system would probably be able to make good use out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adolph Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 The offense decisions are easy. We have no idea who is coming in here but getting rid of 7 or 8 players right off the top is easy...simple...a no brainer. 2 QB's GONE A.R.E. gone Ladell Betts Gone and then there are 3 linemen that must be replaced. Mike Williams could still be a force after he continues to play himself into shape. But center is a huge problem and has been. Raybach is too light and commits too many critical penalties. We also need a left tackle to replace Samuels. and then right guard is just pathetic. Just imagine if we had an all pro guard and all pro center. The interior would be strong but its too much to ask that the Skins ever consider going after high priced interior linemen because they are not sexy enuff for Snyder. Not even if they wear G-strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonsunny77 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 If I were Vinny, I would go out and sign Levi Jones. Then I would try to trade for Marc Bulger. They may be willing to part with him for cheap since they are looking for the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theTruthTeller Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Where are the starters coming from? Getting rid of, or demoting, the offensive starters sounds good, but someone better needs to be acquired at each position. Its not going to happen in 1 or even 2 drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanindallas88 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 If I were Vinny, I would go out and sign Levi Jones. Then I would try to trade for Marc Bulger. They may be willing to part with him for cheap since they are looking for the future. Bulger is done...no use in wasting picks we need on him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonsunny77 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I think he is a product of the crap around him. He is still able to move the ball as crappy as they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 I'd keep for sure: Todd Collins (If he'll come back) Clinton Portis (there is no point to get rid of him right now) Santana Moss Chris Cooley Derrick Dockery Mike Williams Mark Mitchell Fred Davis Casey Rabach (If his contract isn't out landish) Probably Keep: Chad Rheinhardt Stephan Heyer (Yes because you need him for depth at least) Devin Thomas Malcolm Kelly (not time to throw these guys away) Colt Brennan THe difference is I would Keep JC because you dont' want to change both QBs and O-line personnel at the same time. I just feel the O-line need at Left and Right Tackle (Guard) is too high to just throw in the towel on JC. I wish we could dump him for someone else, but I just think its not a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 Eh, you arent going to see too much C4 going off at Redskins park in the off-season. The oline will get some new faces as well as the QB room, but other than that more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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