Art Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 The Giants won. They deserved to win. Their defensive line didn't generate any more pressure than ours but their offense handled ours differently than we handled theirs. We shrunk up, kept getting shorter and shorter, tighter and tighter. They kept challenging down the field. In this league, right now, that wins. The advantage we had in this game was spreading them out and keeping the field as large as possible for them to cover. Instead, we just got more and more tight. Not a single deep call in the entire second half. No deep developing routes even. When Zorn gets pressured he returns to momma -- WCO short passing. It's who he is and he just doesn't have the trigger man to win that way. Campbell COULD win well enough if placed in the shot gun. Throw 22 times in a row. Run later. Get teams to play us differently. Instead, we try to grind it, use time pointlessly. The only time we look any good is throwing the ball intermediately. Like there at the end. That is how we can achieve success. But even that disappears when Zorn gets harried. The Skins will win a couple coming up. But the core problem is we just don't scare anyone down the field because we don't try. Until we do, average we'll be. The Giants had the better QB and won with most other things being about the same. Good on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I had no clue why JC was not in the shot gun in the 3rd quarter. So many chanes for the offense to make a play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 uuuugh shut up never congrat to the giants or any opponent its the fault of campbell and zorn for this loss no the gmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnewbs Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Downfalls came to ****poor-play calling and even worse execution....things that can be improved but should of been "real season" ready today....heres to hoping we can pull another 5 win stretch out of our *** like last year when we had a similar failure to the Giants... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 uuuugh shut up never congrat to the giants or any opponent.......... +8098080980098098898898084309403 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 uuuugh shut up never congrat to the giants or any opponent its the fault of campbell and zorn for this loss no the gmen They won playing like we should play. That's on Campbell and Zorn, but we should also acknowledge the things they did well are the things we've been begging to see here. It's possible there because they have people running those routes. It's not possible here because we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Ah screw the Giants the cheating ****s, NFL fav. getting the Skins at home game 1 two years in a freaking row! :hammer: got away with tons of penalties okay I got it off my chest... good game giants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLWORLD Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Giants suck, not anywhere as bad as we do but for them to not blow us away shows they're going to be struggling if they don't check themselves.. This team is disgusting.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 NVM just venting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 They won playing like we should play. That's on Campbell and Zorn, but we should also acknowledge the things they did well are the things we've been begging to see here. It's possible there because they have people running those routes. It's not possible here because we don't. I disagree... we lost based on our lack of pass rush and the fact we cant tackle or catch and interception, we cant run right routes, we can throw the ball quick enogh. on the other hand the giants did nothing great They didnt run great, they didnt run good routes, thier pass rush was average. So its not that the giants did anything great we did everything awful.. JUST LIKE LAST YEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 I don't think theres that much of a talent difference between the Skins and Giants(except at QB). The Giants are simply better coached and better prepared to play. Our guys are just flat out DUMB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 good game giants no good game.. Giants proved nothing......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRick Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Zorn, and his play calling, and his system Has got to go, period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 two points...... 1. Redskin db's especially Hall, were horrible, allowed open wr, piss poor tackling 2. Allowing the Giants to complete 3rd downs 3. Redskins offense stunk on first down, usually little or no gains, several negative plays. Drive killers 4. Zorn didn't get JC involved until the 3rd series.... the first pass play was that disaster by ARE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 The play calling sucked pretty bad, but at least Campbell played poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 I disagree... we lost based on our lack of pass rush and the fact we cant tackle or catch and interception, we cant run right routes, we can throw the ball quick enogh.on the other hand the giants did nothing great They didnt run great, they didnt run good routes, thier pass rush was average. So its not that the giants did anything great we did everything awful.. JUST LIKE LAST YEAR You're not entirely right. We actually did get good pressure for the most part. Eli just beat it because we didn't cover as well as we have. Hall struggled badly. Our problem, overall, was, again, offensively. Eli will make dumb throws if you get the Giants on their heels. We didn't do that enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 two points......1. Redskin db's especially Hall, were horrible, allowed open wr, piss poor tackling 2. Allowing the Giants to complete 3rd downs 3. Redskins offense stunk on first down, usually little or no gains, several negative plays. Drive killers exactly so how can you say good game.... They did nothing to prove they were a dominant team they just beat a team that has no right to play in hte NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRick Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 D-Hall, is definetly no S.Springs. Injured or other wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimcoaster Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Redskins: Best team money can't buy ! Uninspired ..lackluster football!! Jason Campbell is no leader. Just think if he didn't waste those two timeouts? Defense?? Give me a break!! 6-10.....If we're lucky !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Zorn did just what I expected him to. Curl up in a ball and cry for his Momma. Several ES posters likely have 10x the pocket presence of Campbell. D. Hall is garbage. I don't know how I was right on all these things months ago. Make me GM already, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 You're not entirely right. We actually did get good pressure for the most part. Eli just beat it because we didn't cover as well as we have. Hall struggled badly. Our problem, overall, was, again, offensively. Eli will make dumb throws if you get the Giants on their heels. We didn't do that enough. No we had no pressure until the forced fumble.. Eli had all sorts of time on 90% of the throws. You never saw him run around trying to make a play. He had over 5 secs every donw. Our prob was offensive... very very Offensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRick Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Zorn, has been out Coached, again. The offense is completely different when Jason is running it, without having that nagging little Biatc*^%, in his ear piece. Proclaiming the value of a 3 and 4 yard pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 exactly so how can you say good game.... They did nothing to prove they were a dominant team they just beat a team that has no right to play in hte NFL geez get a life win or lose be a sportsman and show a little class the Giants weren't handed the win, the controlled the line of scrimmage, and made plays when they needed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosperity Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 we got better pressure from the front four than we have gotten in years past. In this game there was at least the threat of the dline... of course I don't understand why we played so passively on D, we needed to knock the sense out Manning, but very few blitzes. As for Campbell, I think he may have all the talent needed for QB, but you can't train someone to quit being stupid. He is not going to be the franchise QB here, he just doesn't have the mental fortitude or intelligence. I'd like to say to say that it's because the Giants are an awesome team, and while they were certainly better than us, I think that they have some severe weakness that we just didn't capitalize on. If we played more aggressively on both sides we may have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted September 13, 2009 Author Share Posted September 13, 2009 No we had no pressure until the forced fumble.. Eli had all sorts of time on 90% of the throws. You never saw him run around trying to make a play. He had over 5 secs every donw.Our prob was offensive... very very Offensive You're right we didn't have a ton of pressure until the fumble, but we had a good bit after and prior to that the Giants were throwing nicely on time so pressure is difficult to get in such situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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