Veretax Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 The Way We Hear It — draft edition Wonderlic test results only a piece of the intelligence puzzle http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2009/wwhi042109.htm In recent years, the test has lost its significance to NFL clubs as many players are now prepared for the test from extensive Combine preparation, during which they often see exact copies of the tests to be given. “We look at it, but we pay little attention to it,” one NFL GM said. “All of these kids are so well-prepared nowadays — the test that carries the most relevance to us is their first test.” Yet, when comparing the score of the first test that prospects took, usually in the spring entering their senior season or at all-star games, against the score of the test administered at the Combine, far fewer show signs of preparing for the test than in past years. Test results are not expected to vary by more than several points any time two tests are taken; otherwise, outside influences are expected to have influenced the results. “We look at three gauges of intelligence,” one team executive said. “One, (a player’s) score; two, whether his coaches say he needs reps (to learn); and three, whether intelligence issues show up on tape — how often does (a player) need to be lined up, how often does he appear confused. If he is football-smart or his coaches say he learns well, the Wonderlic score is disregarded. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to play football.” True to form, many great players through the years have had better football intelligence than book smarts, as Hall of Fame QB Dan Marino reportedly scored a 16 on the Wonderlic, Terry Bradshaw 15 and potential Hall of Famer Donovan McNabb 14. Following is a breakdown of scores by position as they were taken the first time, then at the Combine, and the difference between the two scores, to show whether preparation or other outside influences may have affected the results. A score of 22/35 means the player answered 35 questions, giving correct answers to 22. Cherry picking some of the scores: from the combine QB Rhett Bomar 25/38 Hunter Cantwell 30/49 Chase Daniel 27/46 Nate Davis 11/45 Josh Freeman 27/37 Graham Harrell 23/30 Mark Sanchez 28/43 Matt Stafford 35/45 Pat White 26/39 RB Donald Brown 24/34 Glen Coffee 27/33 James Davis (Clemson) 14/41 LeSean McCoy 11/24 Knowshon Moreno 13/24 Branden Ore 23/32 Chris Wells 22/36 WR Kenny Britt 21/49 Demetrius Byrd 10/34 Michael Crabtree 15/22 Percy Harvin 12/42 Darrius Heyward-Bey 14/30 Juaguin Iglesias 27/37 Manuel Johnson 21/35 Jeremy Maclin 25/39 Hakeem Nicks 11/31 Brian Robiskie 28/37 Brandon tate 20/31 Tiquan Underwood 38/49 Center eric Wood 31/45 Max Unger 20/27 Alex Mack 26/50 Guard travis Bright (BYU) 27/34 Tyronne Green 22/39 Greg Isdaner (WVU) 38/50 Andy Kemp 22/37 Duke Robinson 16/34 Brandon Walker 14/30 tackle Will Beatty 22/30 Eben Britton 31/49 Phil Loadholt 22/34 Eugene Monroe 24/42 Michael Oher 19/46 Jason Smith 22/50 Andre Smith 17/50 DE Robert Ayers 25/35 Everette Brown 21/49 Larry English 34/45 Tyson Jackson 17/37 Michael Johnson 22/27 Aaron Maybin 25/39 Brian Orakpo 25/36 Lawrence Sidbury 22/27 DT Jarron Gilber 29/37 Ro Brace 21/28 Ziggy Hood 21/32 Ricky Jean-Francois 12/38 Peria Jerry 10/20 BJ Raji 19/49 ILB Jasper Brinkley 13/20 James Laurinaitis 24/35 Rey Maualuga 15/33 OLB Aaron Curry 26/43 Brian Cushing 26/49 Marcus Freeman 23/32 Mortty Ivy (WVU) 17/32 Kaluka Maiava (USC) 24/48 Clay Matthews 26/43 Clint Sintim 17/25 CB Malcolm Jenkins 23/35 Vontae Davis 33/49 Jarius Byrd 15/43 Darius Butler 24/35 DJ Moore 21/36 Alphonso Smith 22/32 There are a LOT more scores on that page, definitely worth browsing. Too many names to list :/ It gives their initial and combine scores if they took both, and the difference as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrifNick21 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 I wonder why the differences are so dang big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royallypwned Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 woot Stafford! :wavetowel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted April 23, 2009 Author Share Posted April 23, 2009 how about this guy as a late round pick up: Greg Isdaner (OG WVU) 38/50 better than Stafford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbod21 Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Such a stupid test. Marino scored really low, yet was the smartest QB of all time. Have you seen him breakdown film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzpackage Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Such a stupid test. Marino scored really low, yet was the smartest QB of all time. Have you seen him breakdown film? Yeah it is a stupid test. But it does give you more insight on an employee you're about to hand millions of dollars to in guaranteed money. While I was looking down the list I thought about how it is concerning to see how many some players missed like Rey Maualuga. To me it seems like a good indication of how they think quickly. It's a timed test, and some players tripled others total answered and total right. That's crazy. I think Andre Smith just entered C for everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da#1skinsfan Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Funny how all the MLB's scored when thats supposed to be the brains position on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Demonte Boldin got a 5/27. Does that mean he's literally a meathead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 Demonte Boldin got a 5/27. Does that mean he's literally a meathead? I think it means he can barely tie his shoes in the morning and often wipes his ass before pooping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouvan59 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Nate Davis' test 1. C 2. C 3. C 4. C 5. C 6. C 7. C 8. C 9. C 10. C . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farbod21 Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5BkCiIev1k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Demonte Boldin got a 5/27. Does that mean he's literally a meathead? What's scary is, you actually have to THINK in order to get a score that low lol...if you absent-mindedly picked "B" for every answer you'd score higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsdude Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think that you guess at the answer of each question and get more right than most of these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorcoreskin Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 I think it means he can barely tie his shoes in the morning and often wipes his ass before pooping. LOL :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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