fire3fighter4 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 This is the year of the OLT for the draft, and there are a few teams with later picks that could use one. Having the 13th pick puts you right on the edge for trading down...Would you want this team to trade down to gain a few later picks due to the minimal ammount we have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Depends on who's there I guess but I'd like to go ahead and keep that 1st round pick and use it on a top 3 tackle if available and just keep our 3rd and use it on a guard. I also wouldn't mind trading down to a 2nd and maybe grab Duke Robinson and a tackle in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Our draft pick is worth 1150 points. Pick 20 is worth 850 and pick 32 is worth 590. First pick in the second is worth 580 and the first pick in the third is worth 265. If we can get the 20, we'd have 200 more points passed off the chart which equals the 14th pick in the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I'm all for it, we have more needs than picks at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishskinsfan Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Our draft pick is worth 1150 points.Pick 20 is worth 850 and pick 32 is worth 590. First pick in the second is worth 580 and the first pick in the third is worth 265. If we can get the 20, we'd have 200 more points passed off the chart which equals the 14th pick in the 3rd. What is this based upon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSkins Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 trading down is a must. stock pile some picks. inject youth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 What is this based upon? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins1957 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I think we need more help on the line as should draft a good one Chris Sammuels is getting older also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard86 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 pick the best available d-lineman. coach him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightbird Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I thought that the league formed a consensus that the old Jimmy Johnson-formulated draft points chart was outdated. Either way, it takes two to tango. We can't just say "let's trade down" and make it happen. If someone comes to us with a good deal, great. If not, just take your pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooley4President Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Either way, it takes two to tango. We can't just say "let's trade down" and make it happen.If someone comes to us with a good deal, great. If not, just take your pick. Couldn't agree more. Lots of teams say they want to trade down, but it's the luck of the draw whether they get to or not. The right guy has to be on the board and a team has to want him at your pick. Just gotta let it play out and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sigmanu278 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Our draft pick is worth 1150 points.Pick 20 is worth 850 and pick 32 is worth 590. First pick in the second is worth 580 and the first pick in the third is worth 265. If we can get the 20, we'd have 200 more points passed off the chart which equals the 14th pick in the 3rd. actually if we trade down to the 20th, that would leave us with 300 points, which is the 28th pick of the 2nd round.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpskins10 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 actually if we trade down to the 20th, that would leave us with 300 points, which is the 28th pick of the 2nd round.... The charts vary, so whichever one you're looking at might not be the one he is looking at. To the person that said it was outdated: I'm not exactly sure how that could be. Maybe the initial chart he made up was, but the points change to account for the changes in years. It makes sense to have the picks on a systematic scale, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 if it's fair yeah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALLz Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Ex-Skin Mayhew is the Lions GM now. May be he'll cut us a deal. j/k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forehead Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I've also heard that the Jimmy Johnson chart is outdated and not often relied upon by front office types anymore. Depending on what we can swing, I'm all for trading down, and as others have suggested, I'd take a good hard look at the Detroit Lions. Trade down seven spots to the #20 pick, and pick up a 2nd rounder or an extra 3rd rounder to go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 actually if we trade down to the 20th, that would leave us with 300 points, which is the 28th pick of the 2nd round.... You are right, I fail at math. Even if some teams don't go by the chart any more, it's still the only barometer for us to go by right now. Gives us an idea of what we could do if we had a dance partner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letzgoterps Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2410670 That's nice. So Horton was worth 0.5 points in last years draft. What a steal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Our draft pick is worth 1150 points.Pick 20 is worth 850 and pick 32 is worth 590. First pick in the second is worth 580 and the first pick in the third is worth 265. If we can get the 20, we'd have 200 more points passed off the chart which equals the 14th pick in the 3rd. Don't you mean 300 points? 1150-850=300. That's a late 2nd rounder. That would mean Detroit wouldn't do their #20 and #33 to us, because it'd be way off. Though, if there was a great LT prospect, they might bite. I'd personally take that trade, but I'd find it hard to pass on Michael Oher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 The charts vary, so whichever one you're looking at might not be the one he is looking at.To the person that said it was outdated: I'm not exactly sure how that could be. Maybe the initial chart he made up was, but the points change to account for the changes in years. It makes sense to have the picks on a systematic scale, IMO. haha...he said #13 is worth 1150 and #20 is worth 850. No matter the chart you are looking at the math is the same I am historically a trade down guy. As mentioned in another thread a trade with Miami could work. They will have about 25 in my book. Swap 1sts, get our old 2nd back and give them a 5th. Maclin goes ~15 and I personally think WR is their biggest need. Many lineman to be had late 1st to mid 2nd. edit: the math was corrected long before. Sorry for being the fourth ******* to the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommDownMan Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I've also heard that the Jimmy Johnson chart is outdated and not often relied upon by front office types anymore.Depending on what we can swing, I'm all for trading down, and as others have suggested, I'd take a good hard look at the Detroit Lions. Trade down seven spots to the #20 pick, and pick up a 2nd rounder or an extra 3rd rounder to go with it. maybe not, but it's the best gauge we have. It's still a decent ball park, that's why few trades are made out of the top ten. Things changed due to ~20's being better value because of the contracts that are given out to the top guys. I have a feeling it's not that far off after the top fifteen picks or so (look at trades the last few years based on the chart). Teams covet players so it's not exact, but I don't think it's that far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedskinDaddy Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I would say yes, if the price was right and IF there were still solid interior prospects on the board for either side of the ball. We need so much help with our O- and D-lines. Anybody still have Sean Gilbert's phone #? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HigSkin Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Zorn said at his PC today, he thought we had the 13th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 I'm for trading down to get a low 1st round (22-32) and a mid to high 2nd round (within the first 10-15 picks) and maybe a possibility of a 3rd round (I haven't looked at the chart and unless another team has a plethora of pics it wouldn't happen...) But yeah, my DREAM would be 26th in the first, 12th in the 2nd, and 28th in 3rd... We still have the combines, hopefully someone that is projected low 1st round shoots up and someone projected top 15 shoots down so that teams looking at whoever for the #25 pick have to trade up to get that guy and we can get someone we were looking at as well lower in the draft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted December 29, 2008 Share Posted December 29, 2008 Regardless of the chart it depends on whos taken when we come up. If a most of the top teir OT are slated to go later then yes. If not then heck no. There is too much risk with taking a DT/DE in the first round. OT/OG are no brainers. Quality rather than quanity. We need a young OT that can step in and play now. We have guards. Chad should start this year. Jansen can move inside for depth and Heyer would be our depth at tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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