GrimReefa Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 After this 8-8/9-7 season ends, it is time to finally rebuild. And we can even try doing it right, for a change. Fire Jim Zorn. The team hasn't improved one iota under this guy. Today, we saw an illegal formation AND an illegal shift (IN WEEK 14!!!), as well as several false starts, a delay of game, a bad challenge, unimaginative playcalling, and an offense full of players who looked like they couldn't wait for the game to end. The guy might have made a good OC, but as a head coach, he is clueless. Hire Todd Haley. Here is a guy who is 41 years old, has good football pedigree (his dad was director of player personnel for the Pittsburgh Steelers), and has built a very creative and successful offense using two great wide receivers and a bunch of spare parts (raise your hand if you thought Kurt Warner had anything left in the tank 5 years ago, let alone now). As a bonus, he was run out of Dallas after TO, with whom Haley had a very public contentious incident on the sidelines of a game, won his power struggle with Bill Parcells, so he undoubdtedly has a personal grudge there. Fire Vinny Cerrato. Devin Thomas, Malcolm Kelly, Fred Davis. Enough said. Hire anybody from the front office of one of the organizations that does things right. New England, New York, Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, Carolina, even Tampa Bay or Baltimore. Somebody from one of those organizations has to have learned something and could surely provide an eye for talent that the current "brain trust" does not have. Trade everybody over 26 who will be taken. CP without a doubt. Ladell Betts. Santana Moss. Chris Samuels. I'd say Randle El but nobody but nobody would take that preposterous contract off of our hands. Jon Jansen we'll just have to take out and shoot. Nobody who is currently in/past their prime is of any use to this team and what we need to accomplish. And cut everyone else over that age that you possibly can. I want an army of draft picks this year, and a flood of rookies playing next season. And speaking of the draft... BUILD FROM THE INSIDE OUT. This is a rare instance where conventional wisdom happens to be true. The entire offensive and defensive lines are old and need replacing. Especially the offensive line. This can be done in 2 or 3 drafts, but the longer we put it off, the more time we're wasting. No more using three second rounders on pass catchers. Put the early picks to work on the lines - the game is won in the trenches. And it's not won with old fogies who provide more nostalgia than production. Don't worry about wins and losses next year. In fact, the more losses the better. If we can manage to lose 14 or so, we can nab Tebow. If we get to work this offseason, we can have a winning team by 2011, and a championship copntender soon afterwards. But we have to bite the bullet and suffer through some lean years, or we'll be the same 6-10 win team every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Not sure about firing Zorn...I would hate to see Marty S. pt. II. Would love to see Vinny go...that hasn't happened yet why would it now? I am frustrated and tierd of thinking that this team has finally turned a corner only to find out it is marching into a dark alley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 You had me till Tebow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NawtyMagazine Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Fire grimreefa for being a closet steelers fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitHard30 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 yah i dont know about tebow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins:Victory_or_Death Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Fire grimreefa for being a closet steelers fan:rotflmao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 Part and parcel with firing Zorn is hiring somebody who makes sense...like Haley. Did you know the Arizona Cardinals are number 3 in the NFL in both PPG and YPG? And that Kurt Warner has a passer rating of 99.4, his highest since 2001? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 If we lose out I think Zorn is gone, but that is the only way. I honestly hope we do rebuild this team because we are going nowhere with the old folks we have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Synder has a Mini-Me, and it's here in this thread. If you want to run a football team right, you have to have stable leadership in order for the team to fricking develop. Look at the Giants. Tom Coughlin went 6-10 his first year. According to your standards, he shouldn've been fired that year and they should've went for another coach. I've got news for ya, most first-year head coaches don't win a Super Bowl their first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I honestly hope we do rebuild this team because we are going nowhere with the old folks we have now. Do you realize that means Vinny would be in charge of the re-building? I don't know about you all but that thought scares me beyond words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamus Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 you guys are too emotional and how are you gonna say fire Zorn? look around the league it takes a couple years to build a team. lmao at you guys thinking you know football. football is in the entertainment business, if your not entertained dont watch. i am excited for the future of this team, Thomas,Kelly,Davis nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 You had me till Tebow Umm, you're kidding, right? 66.1 career completion percentage, 62 TDs, 9 INTs, probably going to win 3 national championships, won the Heisman as a sophomore, should win it this year (although it will probably go to Bradford, even though Big 12 defenses are a joke), all in the hardest conference in the land. Tebow is John Elway on steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 HAHAHAHAHAH Cut Thomas, Kelly and Davis? You sir are a friggin joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Do you realize that means Vinny would be in charge of the re-building?I don't know about you all but that thought scares me beyond words. Do we have any other choice? this team is OLD and it's time for change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Umm, you're kidding, right?66.1 career completion percentage, 62 TDs, 9 INTs, probably going to win 3 national championships, won the Heisman as a sophomore, should win it this year (although it will probably go to Bradford, even though Big 12 defenses are a joke), all in the hardest conference in the land. Tebow is John Elway on steroids. Slow delivery. Ok arm. Throws a far too many ducks With the weapons he has on that team, and the scheme, he is the perfect QB for Meyer Great college player. I just don't see him as an NFL star in particular in a WCO. You look at the Gators passing O, its deep ball or crossing routes after the run has been set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Umm, you're kidding, right?66.1 career completion percentage, 62 TDs, 9 INTs, probably going to win 3 national championships, won the Heisman as a sophomore, should win it this year (although it will probably go to Bradford, even though Big 12 defenses are a joke), all in the hardest conference in the land. Tebow is John Elway on steroids. He's not a NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Do we have any other choice? this team is OLD and it's time for change I'm not disagreeing with you some changes need to be made...I just don't trust Vinny to do the job. It's kind of like giving a monkey a loaded gun in a room with a leaking propane tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 I'm no expert on the Giants, but I'm pretty sure the Giants weren't getting flagged for illegal shifts and formations in week 14 of his first year. A coach's record doesn't mean much if the losses can't be traced to bad coaching. But if the team is playing stupid, undisciplined football at the end of the season, that is bad coaching, pure and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I'm not disagreeing with you some changes need to be made...I just don't trust Vinny to do the job.It's kind of like giving a monkey a loaded gun in a room with a leaking propane tank. I hear ya, but Vinny is going to be here since "Mr. Snyder" is in love with him so we have to hope for the best :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimReefa Posted December 8, 2008 Author Share Posted December 8, 2008 HAHAHAHAHAH Cut Thomas, Kelly and Davis? You sir are a friggin joke! You sir did not read my post. Nowhere does it say to cut those players. In fact, we'll have no choice but to keep them, if he get rid of our other receivers, which is, in fact, what I DID say. Nice try, but... FAIL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkabong82 Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Snyder and Co. have gotten bashed, and rightfully so, in the past for being too quick to throw things away, too impulsive. Yet many of the same people who bash for such impulsive behavior offer up similar solutions when the chips are down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I hear ya, but Vinny is going to be here since "Mr. Snyder" is in love with him so we have to hope for the best :doh: Agreed I thought we had something pretty good with Marty S things were looking up... and then Dan decided he wanted to have fun again...DAMN it I hate always blaming him for this but in the last 9 years he has been the one constant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 Im ready for a us to get the BEAST RB who will eventually be Portis's replacement. I want Portis to be our starter next year, but we need to replace Betts. He's not the problem, but he's hit his ceiling, he will never be better then what he already is for us. And I like Cartwright to, but its time for him to go to. He's served his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacky McSlackAss Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 You think we have any trade value for you as a fan? I think the Lions are looking, sounds like a good fit for you. :ciao: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE Posted December 8, 2008 Share Posted December 8, 2008 I like Zorn, but Im ready for him to go as well. Nothin against him, I just dont know if I have the stomach and patience to sit back and watch him learn how to be a head coach. We need a seasoned head coach on the sidelines. And who is our offensive coordinator, is it Stump Mitchell? I know he is the RB coach also. He needs to go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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