Larry Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Kid, have you rehabilitated yourself? And here I thought I was the only one who scatters references to that into his posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 And here I thought I was the only one who scatters references to that into his posts. Well there is 17 minutes so of the song to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Well there is 17 minutes so of the song to use. He did a 30th anniversary version of the song that adds a really good joke to it. Strongly recommend it. (I'll tell it to you if you really want.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I'm with you on a lot of this stuff, but not the educational tools. Prisons are not meant to be soley punishment, but also as a means of rehabilation. I'm all for chain gangs and no cable TV - but allow them all the positive reading material they want. Unfortunately, all too often that "positive reading material" ends up being legal texts on how to get out of or keep from being caught the next time around. "Jail House Lawyers" still exist, rince. I hear what you're saying. If I had a choice, the one thing I'd take from every prison is weights. Criminals getting stronger is all we need. I definitely agree with the weights issue, but I think that we need to take a lot more than that away from them. Depends on if you believe in rehabilitation. Nope. Never have. Never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Sorry - its a line from a famous anti-vietnam 70's song. Not sure why it popped into the head. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Yeah, in theory. In reality, it's much tougher. I think I would try, but suspiscion might haunt me esp. for certain crimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shk75 Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 Yeah, in theory. In reality, it's much tougher. I think I would try, but suspiscion might haunt me esp. for certain crimes OK then since this is such a tough topic how about I narrow it down a little. If you were the head of a company or small business and it were up to you to hire people...would you hire someone who is a little more qualified but an ex-con or someone a little less qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I hear what you're saying. If I had a choice, the one thing I'd take from every prison is weights. Criminals getting stronger is all we need. I once repaired a laser printer in the local office of the US Marshals. Their weight room had a motivational poster, showing somebody in a Department of Corrections jumpsuit on a weight machine. Caption: Remember. Every day you don't work out, someone else does. Also remember in a mystery novel, where the star detective meets the suspect's driver. He observes tha the driver is in excellent physical condition, and concludes that the man is obviously a major criminal, because in America, the only people who have access to exercise equipment and the time to use it are the idle rich and the career criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sith lord Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 OK then since this is such a tough topic how about I narrow it down a little. If you were the head of a company or small business and it were up to you to hire people...would you hire someone who is a little more qualified but an ex-con or someone a little less qualified. I don't think I'd have problems hiring an ex-con as long as he didn't commit any of the big three (Murder, molest, rape). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burgold Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 OK then since this is such a tough topic how about I narrow it down a little. If you were the head of a company or small business and it were up to you to hire people...would you hire someone who is a little more qualified but an ex-con or someone a little less qualified. Oh, that's a lot easier. I would hire the ex-con. I might have a tendency to watch and supervise a little more closely at the beginning, but I definately would give him or her the shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dockeryfan Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Simple answer. In the eyes of the law, no, they should never be treated as equals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins Diehard Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 I certainly don't think a one size fits all approach is the way to go. Crimes and jobs are just too different. I would have no problem with Michael Vick coming back to the NFL(although I probably wouldn't hire him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 OK then since this is such a tough topic how about I narrow it down a little. If you were the head of a company or small business and it were up to you to hire people...would you hire someone who is a little more qualified but an ex-con or someone a little less qualified. One of the first questions on the 10-20 question pre-application survey would be.... "Have you ever been arrested on a felony charge?" Answering YES would be an automatic disqualifying factor for employment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Pressure Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 The 14th amendment gives states the right to disenfranchise convicted felons and I think 46/50 states do just that. They aren't equals to begin with, why should businesses pretend they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shk75 Posted October 22, 2008 Author Share Posted October 22, 2008 The 14th amendment gives states the right to disenfranchise convicted felons and I think 46/50 states do just that. They aren't equals to begin with, why should businesses pretend they are? Well I am talking about equal in every sense of the word. Not being able to get a good job is one aspect. Not being able to vote is another. Is this right as well...should they not be aloud to vote? What other rights are they denied, I am curious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mass_SkinsFan Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 What other rights are they denied, I am curious? Most notably, a felony conviction prevents an individual from owning, possessing, or purchasing ANY type of firearm in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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