redskins59 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Strategically, it's better for Obama to distance himself from Muslims, because about 10% of Americans believe he's actually a Muslim. If he went to a mosque, you can bet that republicand would try to use that fact to make him look like a Muslim, which he clearly has stated he is not. Muslims will vote for Obama anyway. Obama can freely criticize 1) blacks and 2) Muslims, because they're easy votes for Obama, snubs or no snubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Strategically, it's better for Obama to distance himself from Muslims, because about 10% of Americans believe he's actually a Muslim. If he went to a mosque, you can bet that republicand would try to use that fact to make him look like a Muslim, which he clearly has stated he is not. Muslims will vote for Obama anyway. Obama can freely criticize 1) blacks and 2) Muslims, because they're easy votes for Obama, snubs or no snubs. I think he has done a really good job of offending SHF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Strategically, it's better for Obama to distance himself from Muslims, because about 10% of Americans believe he's actually a Muslim. If he went to a mosque, you can bet that republicand would try to use that fact to make him look like a Muslim, which he clearly has stated he is not. Muslims will vote for Obama anyway. Obama can freely criticize 1) blacks and 2) Muslims, because they're easy votes for Obama, snubs or no snubs. Sadly this is dead on true. Because of those rumors of course he wants to distance himself. But, of course now a big chunk of voters in crucial states (VA, OH, and MI, who has the largest muslim population in the U.S.) feels somewhat isolated. Its a damned if he do damned if he don't situation. He has had numerous invitations to show up at Mosques but hasn't replied due to the fact that pictures of him at a Mosque could potentiality damage him. When he does visit Mosques you can bet that he won't want to get to close because of the crazy spin that will be put on the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 When he does visit Mosques you can bet that he won't want to get to close because of the crazy spin that will be put on the pics. He better select his Mosques carefully and make sure they are not funding terrorist organizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I think he has done a really good job of offending SHF. Liberty is right to nail SHF on this. You are missing the point. I find shf's selective outrage over this issue to be purely based on partisanship grounds. Obama's campaign actions were inexcusable, however there is a party out there that actively hates and scapegoats Muslims (and it's not the democratic party). It's disgusting. The party's base views people like SHF as a threat, damn his politics. SHF is a good guy, but I find it troubling that he still identifies as a republican ( partisan one at that). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 He better select his Mosques carefully and make sure they are not funding terrorist organizations. Im sure no matter which one he picks, it sponsors terrorism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Im sure no matter which one he picks, it sponsors terrorism I didn't say it. BTW, I wasn't kidding when I said that, some mosques have some bad connections. He better do his research if he doesn't or yet again he will show bad judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I didn't say it.BTW, I wasn't kidding when I said that, some mosques have some bad connections. He better do his research if he doesn't or yet again he will show bad judgement. There are actually a couple in NOVA that were under investigation for shady connections. Not sure whatever happend with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Liberty is right to nail SHF on this. You are missing the point. I find shf's selective outrage over this issue to be purely based on partisanship grounds. Obama's campaign actions were inexcusable, however there is a party out there that actively hates and scapegoats Muslims (and it's not the democratic party). It's disgusting. The party's base views people like SHF as a threat, damn his politics.SHF is a good guy, but I find it troubling that he still identifies as a republican ( partisan one at that). ' You find it troubling that SHF is a good guy because he identifies himself as a republican because the "party actively hates and scapegoats Muslims"? I don't pretend to know why SHF is a republican but I'm sure he has his reasons and would be happy to explain them to you. Hey, at least he doesn't identify himself with the other party that'll say anything to get a minority vote. Would you be happier if he identified with that one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 'Hey, at least he doesn't identify himself with the other party that'll say anything to get a minority vote. Would you be happier if he identified with that one? I'd be happy if he would focus on "cleaning up his own house" first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 'You find it troubling that SHF is a good guy because he identifies himself as a republican because the "party actively hates and scapegoats Muslims"? I don't pretend to know why SHF is a republican but I'm sure he has his reasons and would be happy to explain them to you. Hey, at least he doesn't identify himself with the other party that'll say anything to get a minority vote. Would you be happier if he identified with that one? I am not asking or telling him to identify with any party. It's not one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I am not asking or telling him to identify with any party. It's not one or the other. Then why do you find it "troubling" that he's a republican? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 you are confused about my criticism... I know you are a muslim, I know you don't think muslims are bad. However, it is your political compatriots which advocate calling Obama a Muslim when he says he is not. Why? Because calling someone a muslim IS a smear to them, which is exactly why they use it on Obama. Liberty is right to nail SHF on this. You are missing the point. I find shf's selective outrage over this issue to be purely based on partisanship grounds. Obama's campaign actions were inexcusable, however there is a party out there that actively hates and scapegoats Muslims (and it's not the democratic party). It's disgusting. The party's base views people like SHF as a threat, damn his politics.SHF is a good guy, but I find it troubling that he still identifies as a republican ( partisan one at that). Simply put, and again for serious I am actually stunned my posting history doesn't reflect this, I am equal opportunity Muslim basher-basher. If my thread history didn't go back to March 2006, I'd probably triple the amount of threads I could post in the tailgate reflecting that. Please, get rid of the cognitive dissonance you are displaying because I take shots at the other guy who is campaigning on change and inclusion, when his actions are not reflecting that. The fact that you are describing this as "selective outrage" is quite honestly a joke. Of course, it just so happens I agree with every thread Sarge posts on Muslims and Islam; right guys? Or when a good old Muslim bash starts occuring in front of me at some political event, I stand silent. Yup, that SHF, silent.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Liberty is right to nail SHF on this. You are missing the point. I find shf's selective outrage over this issue to be purely based on partisanship grounds. Obama's campaign actions were inexcusable, however there is a party out there that actively hates and scapegoats Muslims (and it's not the democratic party). It's disgusting. The party's base views people like SHF as a threat, damn his politics.SHF is a good guy, but I find it troubling that he still identifies as a republican ( partisan one at that). What? I feel like I must be reading this thread wrong. Are you saying that a Muslim who identifies himself as Republican is a sell out to his people or something? I hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 What? I feel like I must be reading this thread wrong. Are you saying that a Muslim who identifies himself as Republican is a sell out to his people or something?I hope not. I have been hearing that since 2000 Some people call it stupidity. I call it trying to force change from within and hoping that by people meeting me it has some sort of an impact Of course, I tend to over value my self worth quite a bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCsportsfan53 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I agree. Forget the bull****. Do what's right. It would be nice but in this particular scenario it's not really plausible. I'll settle for him doing what's right once he's IN office, he can't get there without bull****ting. Unfortunately that is just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 What? I feel like I must be reading this thread wrong. Are you saying that a Muslim who identifies himself as Republican is a sell out to his people or something?I hope not. I know what's it like to be called a sell-out (it stings), so no. I just worry about his lack of perspective and find his selective outrage hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I have been hearing that since 2000 Some people call it stupidity. I call it trying to force change from within and hoping that by people meeting me it has some sort of an impact Of course, I tend to over value my self worth quite a bit You have blown up the straw men ignorant posters try to hoist on your race and/or faith in thread after thread with cool-headed, polite truth. You've got nothing to prove. You've made an impact on me. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardi gras skin Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I know what's it like to be called a sell-out (it stings), so no. I just worry about his lack of perspective and find his selective outrage hollow. I think you should back off/delete that last post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 You have blown up the straw men ignorant posters try to hoist on your race and/or faith in thread after thread with cool-headed, polite truth. You've got nothing to prove. You've made an impact on me. :applause: Agreed, good stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslowalrob Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I have been hearing that since 2000 Some people call it stupidity. I call it trying to force change from within and hoping that by people meeting me it has some sort of an impact Of course, I tend to over value my self worth quite a bit I tried to do that with socialism on the board. Not that effective. And I am worth WAYYY more than you are . By the way, I was annoyed that Obama did not say "who the !#$% cares if I am a Muslim" rather than "Hell no I ain't no Muslim". However, considering that a biracial candidate who was raised by his white family is running as "the black president" (thanks to a number of factors, but not limited to: the media, blacks themselves, white liberals, the one-drop rule, etc). As for me, as long as the dude isn't a Republican, he is acceptable . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAVEONAWARPATH Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 It would be nice but in this particular scenario it's not really plausible. I'll settle for him doing what's right once he's IN office, he can't get there without bull****ting. Unfortunately that is just the way it is. Unfortunately, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I tried to do that with socialism on the board. Not that effective. And I am worth WAYYY more than you are .By the way, I was annoyed that Obama did not say "who the !#$% cares if I am a Muslim" rather than "Hell no I ain't no Muslim". He said worse, IMO which is part of the reason why Muslims are outraged. He said he "never" was a Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 I tried to do that with socialism on the board. Not that effective. And I am worth WAYYY more than you are .By the way, I was annoyed that Obama did not say "who the !#$% cares if I am a Muslim" rather than "Hell no I ain't no Muslim". However, considering that a biracial candidate who was raised by his white family is running as "the black president" (thanks to a number of factors, but not limited to: the media, blacks themselves, white liberals, the one-drop rule, etc). As for me, as long as the dude isn't a Republican, he is acceptable . :laugh: You are consistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winslowalrob Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 :laugh:You are consistant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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