mjah Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 About time... Barack’s Bounce The latest NEWSWEEK Poll shows the Democrat with a 15-point lead over McCain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 However, at least here in Tailgate, I see what I think is some positive news about McCain on the issue of energy, and the same old smears about Obama. (Oh, and speculation about his VP.) If McCain keeps talking about energy and Obama doesn't get covered, that lead could change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Wait until the secret Bombshell hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Meaningless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Once they get one stage together in will only go up more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 Once they get one stage together in will only go up more. I agree with this actually, Obama is a master smooth talker of mass amounts of b.s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 :laugh: I think I'll believe Gallup over Newsweek any day of the week take a peek at the methodology ,if you are into that http://www.newsweek.com/id/142469 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 :laugh: I think I'll believe Gallup over Newsweek any day of the weektake a peek at the methodology ,if you are into that http://www.newsweek.com/id/142469 Holy crap. 896 people surveyed? This isn't family feud for God's sake. :doh: Even more worthless than I first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I agree with this actually, Obama is a master smooth talker of mass amounts of b.s. And what does it take to get elected? Being full of ****. Party doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 And what does it take to get elected? Being full of ****. Party doesn't matter. Hey at least I can smell some serious b.s. :laugh: when I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 You get 30000 votes on mascots. 900 on the President. Working as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Hey at least I can smell some serious b.s. :laugh: when I see it. I suppose if your happy with the economy, the Iraq quagmire, not caring about getting Bin Laden (which Bush doesn't as he has stated he doesn't think about him) and America's reputation, then that's a great reason to vote Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 I suppose if your happy with the economy, the Iraq quagmire, not caring about getting Bin Laden (which Bush doesn't as he has stated he doesn't think about him) and America's reputation, then that's a great reason to vote Republican. Are we voting for Bush again? Didn't think so. Your argument holds no water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUforREDSKINS Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Are we voting for Bush again?Didn't think so. Your argument holds no water. Explain the difference in policies between the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Are we voting for Bush again? Nope. We're voting for the guy who voted with Bush, 97% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Explain the difference in policies between the two. McCain won't pick Cheney. Edit: And he probably won't appoint his secretary to the Supreme Court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 For those complaining about the amount of people polled. http://janda.org/c10/Lectures/topic05/GallupFAQ.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjah Posted June 21, 2008 Author Share Posted June 21, 2008 :laugh: I think I'll believe Gallup over Newsweek any day of the week Why? Of course, before you answer that, you should know that Newsweek's polls are conducted by Princeton Survey Research Associates (PSRA), who also conduct polling for ABC News and a host of other organizations. And PSRA was founded by Andrew Kohut. The same Andrew Kohut who was president of Gallup for 10 years. And took a lot of the Gallup talent with him when he start PSRA. So what aspect of the Newsweek name gives you pause, again? take a peek at the methodology ,if you are into that http://www.newsweek.com/id/142469 I just took a look at it. What part of it gives you any kind of alarm? To me, it looks like the only thing about PSRA's approach that may be significantly different from Gallup is the way each of them weighs results to reflect the demographic makeup of the country. This can be done in different ways, and I'm just assuming the two groups do it differently because they don't give the details on the link I read. In fact, they may follow exactly the same method to achieve that end. But you can't say one established weighting method is right or wrong; it's nearly impossible to know which weighting is the "perfect" one until the election is over and you see which poll was closer to the result. In some cases it might not make any significant difference at all. One thing to note, though: the fact that they polled 896 registered voters (out of 1,010 total people called) is NOT a problem. Again: NOT a problem. What could be a major problem is the possibility that the 1,010 people polled were not a good random sample of US adults, either due to extremely bad circumstantial luck (leading to an "outlier poll") or a bad method for picking people to call (leading to someone at the polling company justifiably being called a huge dumbass). But that's pure speculation, and it seems to me that Gallup probably would be equally likely to experience the same problems. Just as this poll could be subject to error, Gallup could be experiencing some systematic, repeated error every day as they do their polling. But both firms are very reputable, so dumbassery is probably highly unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Williams Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Holy crap. 896 people surveyed? This isn't family feud for God's sake. :doh: Even more worthless than I first thought. :rotflmao: post of the week :applause: :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Explain the difference in policies between the two. So is my job to do research for you now? Damn kids these days. Domestic policy, McCain will most likely keep the same tax cuts under Bush but add more of his own twists. But if you believe that the economy is solely in the control of the PotUS, then I want to know what color the sky is in your reality. Foreign policy? Here you go. Nice article. Quite different than what Obama and his Obamanaughts want you to believe. http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/28/opinion/edbrooks.php Nope. We're voting for the guy who voted with Bush, 97% of the time. Straw man Larry. I expect better of you. McCain shares alot of views with Bush but to say that he will continue with the policies at hand is a bit of a stretch, even for the foaming at the mouth Bush haters. Look at all the flack that the right of the GOP is giving him. He isn't the "maverick" that he was a few years ago now due to his need to get the GOP base to support him, but you know as well as I that a leopard doesn't change his spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUSkinsFan Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 The biggest surprise for me was the Michelle Obama has considerably higher favorable ratings than Cindy McCain. Michelle Obama has scores of 49 "favorable", 22 "unfavorable", 7 "Never Heard Of's" and 22 "Don't Know". Cindy McCain has scores of 33 "favorable", 19 "unfavorable", 12 "Never Heard Of's", and 36 "Don't Know" I mean, Cindy McCain doesn't do anything on the campaign trail so I have NO idea how people could have unfavorable opinions about her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 MJah,I'm sure you know what a outlier is...Can you spot one? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html General Election: McCain vs. Obama Polling Data Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain ® Spread RCP Average 06/12 - 06/19 -- 47.5 42.0 Obama +5.5 USA Today/Gallup 06/15 - 06/19 1310 LV 50 44 Obama +6.0 Newsweek 06/18 - 06/19 896 RV 51 36 Obama +15.0 FOX News 06/17 - 06/18 900 RV 45 41 Obama +4.0 Rasmussen Tracking 06/17 - 06/19 3000 LV 48 44 Obama +4.0 Gallup Tracking 06/16 - 06/19 2648 RV 46 44 Obama +2.0 Reuters/Zogby 06/12 - 06/14 1113 LV 47 42 Obama +5.0 ABC News/Wash Post 06/12 - 06/15 -- 49 45 Obama +4.0 Cook/RT Strategies 06/12 - 06/15 880 RV 44 40 Obama +4.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUSkinsFan Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 MJah,I'm sure you know what a outlier is...Can you spot one?http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html General Election: McCain vs. Obama Polling Data Poll Date Sample Obama (D) McCain ® Spread RCP Average 06/12 - 06/19 -- 47.5 42.0 Obama +5.5 USA Today/Gallup 06/15 - 06/19 1310 LV 50 44 Obama +6.0 Newsweek 06/18 - 06/19 896 RV 51 36 Obama +15.0 FOX News 06/17 - 06/18 900 RV 45 41 Obama +4.0 Rasmussen Tracking 06/17 - 06/19 3000 LV 48 44 Obama +4.0 Gallup Tracking 06/16 - 06/19 2648 RV 46 44 Obama +2.0 Reuters/Zogby 06/12 - 06/14 1113 LV 47 42 Obama +5.0 ABC News/Wash Post 06/12 - 06/15 -- 49 45 Obama +4.0 Cook/RT Strategies 06/12 - 06/15 880 RV 44 40 Obama +4.0 This is one of my favorite sites for polling data:http://www.pollster.com It compiles a bunch of different polls and uses those to get their graph numbers. It also shows poll numbers for Senate/House/Governor races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aREDSKIN Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 Can anyone really have any confidence or put any credence in what Newsweak claims? They been busted so many times in the past it comical. I don't think they are shy about their agenda. Man what a bunch of lemmings there are here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted June 21, 2008 Share Posted June 21, 2008 McCain shares alot of views with Bush but to say that he will continue with the policies at hand is a bit of a stretch, even for the foaming at the mouth Bush haters. Look at all the flack that the right of the GOP is giving him. He isn't the "maverick" that he was a few years ago now due to his need to get the GOP base to support him, but you know as well as I that a leopard doesn't change his spots. Same policies on tax cuts, abortion, supreme court justices, Iraq, economic policies, heath care, no child left behind, social security, etc. etc. etc. Perhaps it would be easier for you to point out their DIFFERENCES... lol And BTW- he didn't need to change his spots to get elected. If John McCain of 2000 is the candidate in this election, he wins in a LANDSLIDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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