Ern814 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 After a piss poor effort exerted by Randel El last year on every punt return ive seen its time for him to get out of the position. Dont get me wrong i still love him as a wide out but hes lost his touch on returning. Why keep him in with these stats when we have a return machine on our team. Mike Espy, check out these return videos. In 2007 El averaged a mere 6.7 yards a return, no touchdowns and a long of only 27. In with the old out with the new. College Returns Start at 4:50 Tell me your thoughts on the switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digger Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 And he did even better in high-school. See what I'm getting at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeenzfan Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I agree he dances way too much on his returns and has hardly had any big returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crank Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I think it is time to fine a new return man as well. Thrash had better returns because he did not dance around and just went forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Pimp Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 He could have had more yards if the blocking was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmcthe2nd Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 All I saw was dancing also. We need someone who will just hit the hole and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALLz Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I think we should just let Mike Sellers return Punts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshow24 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I think it is time to fine a new return man as well. Thrash had better returns because he did not dance around and just went forward. Totally agree with you and remember this thread from last year by fear our D. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215198 James Thrash should be our Punt Returner henceforth I'm not a fan who has knee jerk reactions usually, and I really don't consider this as one. But I think Thrash should return our punts from now on. Randle El is looking more than competent as our number two WR, and played great today until his injury. But I think he does far too much dancing around on punt returns and most times he gets very little. Every so often he breaks it 25-30 yards, but I'd rather have someone get the sure 10-15 yards consistently rather than someone trying to be flashy and go nowhere. Thrash proved today and in the past that he can return punts by running straight ahead and he is not nearly as pivotal to our passing game. So why risk a Randle El injury on a punt return when for the most part he doesn't do too much, when Thrash looks just as good? Or in the case or today, even better. Hail!:point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ern814 Posted March 6, 2008 Author Share Posted March 6, 2008 putting rock back there even might not be that bad of an idea... if hes back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwpanic Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 why not use a late round pick to grab a returner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimm Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Thrash did average 35.5 yards a return last year. I do agree Randle-El should not be returning punts next year, sure he would run for 20 yards, but only 2 of those would be forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlt2622 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Sometimes i thought the problem was he really didnt have a chance to return the ball. Everytime we recieved the punt, someone was right there to make him call a fair catch, or tackle him on the spot. I do agree though that he danced to much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwills1 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 LOL. ESPY? ESPY? Are you flippin smokin crak? Randle El has been the punt returner for two years and he took one to the house against Indy in the prior season. Returning punts isn't exactly like catching a pass....you take risks and look for lanes and try to exploit them. We don't exactly have the best blocking schemes on the punt return either.....so that has a factor. Randle El is one of the most explosive playmakers in the NFL in open space......once again you virtual GMs talk absolute trash. MIKE ESPY? LOL.....I can beat him in the 40..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coyote4848 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 yeah, I don't get it with ARE, if he stopped dancing he'd get some good yds.. I can't rememeber how many times you could see the lane open up and he would dance around looking for it......he has lost his vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Can we bring Mike Nelms out of retirement? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins5235 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 We should give mix , thrash and Espy the opportunity just in case Rock doesnt come back,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I don't know what happened to ARE - He was deadly in Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Pissed Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I was dissapointed, this thread title is misleading. I thought it was definitely happening, but instead it's a discussion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SittingBull Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 ARE is adequate, we won't get Hester-like production no matter who we put back there. ARE gets the yards that are there while looking for the homerun. He just hasn't gotten lucky in awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoBob Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 We were very poor last year in punt return blocking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 why not use a late round pick to grab a returner? There are a couple of "burners" in this draft that double as punt/kick returners. Take them later 6-7 round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsCampbell2Cooley Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 El was trying to stay healthy in a year that we needed him at receiver, why risk getting injured on a punt return?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletch_Lives59 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I think Thrash should return punts and use El as our #3 QB as well as WR... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathartic-j Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I don't know what happened to ARE - He was deadly in Pittsburgh. Well, yeah, sorta. There was actually the same problem of too much lateral movement and too little forward progress when he first started in PIT, but that tendency was eventually beaten out of him. After that, he actually did a very good job of gaining yards consistently, without losing all his ability to break a long one. Unfortunately, as we all know, he's since reverted to his old habits. Here's to hoping that Danny Smith & co. break him of it! (If they can do that, I see no reason to have anybody other than him returning.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm8899 Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Your thread title makes it sound like it's official. might wanna change it to "an idea..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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