Norv And Marty Ordering Pizza/Beer for Playoffs

bulldog · December 30, 2002

from the seat of their own living rooms, just like the Redskins and a host of other also-rans in the NFL

so much for Chris Berman kicking the Redskins in the pants, it appears these miracle workers forgot to tell their teams they had to play BOTH halves of the season :laugh:

DeathByLinebacker · December 30, 2002

The Seahags just tied SD up at 28. Marty could end up going 2-7 down the stretch.

NoCalMike · December 30, 2002

Ye, out here in CA, the Skins have had to deal with the Charger fans all season because of the Marty saga, well they didn't even bother to show up to the sportsbar this week. Miami, well tough break. I don't mind Norv anymore, I mean he is an Offensive coordinator and he excells at that, and no one has ever said otherwise, just as a head coach he was lacking. My old neighbor was a huge Dolphins fan so I can imagine he probobaly threw something through his tv after the JETS game....hahahaha, I love when other team's fans put their feet in their mouths before the season is over....Now we can all enjoy the superbowl together on the SAME COUCH~!

DeathByLinebacker · December 30, 2002

Seahawks win. Frankly, the Chargers stunk in the second half.

bulldog · December 30, 2002

Chargers 8-8, after 6-1

Reminds me of Jack Pardee with the Skins in 1978 :laugh:

Same deal, 6-1 and then 2-7.

But nobody was calling Jack a genius halfway through that season as far as I recall :evil:

Skins57 · December 30, 2002

I don't know if anyone remembers this but here is an article ripping Synder for letting Marty (The genius) walk away. This was written by this dweeb when SD was 6-1. This was posted here by Someone and I saved it and am going to email this guy with his story and get his opinions of the genius:rolleyes:

Of course I also put his email at the bottom for anyone who wants to email him also

November 3, 2002

Daniel Snyder was unavailable for comment. The owner of the Washington Redskins doesn't do interviews during the season, or so his spokesman said.

Pity. I had hoped to personally thank the little twerp for firing Marty Schottenheimer. I wanted Danny Boy to know just how well the antiquated coach was working out in San Diego, and see if Steve Spurrier might need any Super Bowl tickets.

I wanted to tell the bumptious boor just how badly he has blown it in sacking Schottenheimer after a single 8-8 season. I wanted Snyder to hear my laughter, feel my contempt and understand the epic error of his ways.

The told-you-so task falls to me because Schottenheimer is above that sort of thing. Though he goes to great lengths to avoid mentioning Snyder by name, Schottenheimer eschews gloating because of how quickly fortunes can change in pro football. Besides, revenge, however sweet, is an obstacle to readiness. Marty Schottenheimer is all about readiness.

"I have no ill will," Schottenheimer said. "I'm happy I got an opportunity to coach in a place like San Diego."

Schottenheimer is no happier with his opportunity than is San Diego to have him. The Bolts are 6-1 entering this afternoon's scrimmage with the New York Jets, a record equaled only by the Green Bay Packers. Spurrier's genius notwithstanding, the Redskins stand 3-4.

Schottenheimer, consequently, is the leading candidate for NFL Coach of the Year. Snyder, meanwhile, remains its poster boy for knee-jerk jerkdom.

Snyder is wealth without wisdom, power without prudence, a clumsy, callous child in a game meant for grown-ups. He has employed four head coaches in his four-year reign with the Redskins – at one point, he had employed four in a span of 13 months – and has created a business model based on petty tyranny, reckless spending and dubious expertise. Snyder is like George Steinbrenner without the championships, like Marge Schott without the subtlety. Compared with Daniel Snyder, the irascible Alex Spanos comes off like Cary Grant.

Last week, a Los Angeles sportswriter recalled a chance encounter with Snyder at the Redskins training camp. Having wandered into an area where Snyder was smoking cigars with some of the team's broadcasters, the reporter dared to initiate conversation. He was subsequently harangued by a security guard for having the effrontery to speak to Snyder.

Later, when a publicist pitched a story concerning Snyder's charity work, the reporter declined. Read Snyder's biography in the Redskins media guide and you'd think him a candidate for canonization. Examine his record for making employees miserable, and you'd know him to be a fraud. Daniel Snyder loves mankind; it's people he can't stand.

(Just for the record, Snyder does give interviews during the season when it suits his purpose. He was quoted at some length in The Washington Post on Sept. 24, expressing "complete confidence in our coaching staff," after his team's 1-2 start. He also arranged for a friendly Post columnist to meet the Rolling Stones. It's easy to see that Snyder would be reluctant to discuss Schottenheimer's success. It's hard to see that avoiding the subject is consistent with some in-season interview policy.)

The purpose of my call was to determine if Snyder wanted to retract, amend or clarify his comments deriding Schottenheimer as outdated.

"I made a mistake," Snyder told Newsweek this past summer. "I listened to the media when they told me I needed a traditional football guy, an NFL guy, so I did that, and I got a 1960s football team. And 1960s football teams don't really do well these days."

The fundamentals of football and of leadership have not really changed in the decades since Vince Lombardi. While the passing game has surely grown more sophisticated during Schottenheimer's career, NFL games can still be won with defense and by avoiding turnovers. If this emphasis fails to excite Snyder, it is nonetheless what works. (See Super Bowl XXXVI.)

"This game hasn't changed," Schottenheimer said. "It's still about blocking and tackling. It's still about taking care of the ball, finding out what the players you have do best . . . When you look at our football team, we've got a wonderful running back (LaDainian Tomlinson), people who can block and a quarterback (Drew Brees) who can manage the game and not make errors."

Snyder prefers flash. (See Sanders, Deion.) When Snyder lured Spurrier with a five-year contract worth $25 million, Snyder cited (redundantly) the Florida coach's "supercharged, exciting and dynamic brand of football."

Spurrier, accustomed to looking deep on every down in the Southeastern Conference, has only lately realized the value of the 4-yard gain. Willing to accept narrow personnel input at the time of his hiring, Spurrier now sees a need for more sweeping authority. Come to think of it, he's getting more like Marty Schottenheimer by the minute.

"I don't know anything about Washington, and I don't know Daniel Snyder," said John Butler, the Chargers general manager. "All I know is there was a heck of a football coach available when we needed one."

tim.sullivan@uniontrib.com

Skins57 · December 30, 2002

here is the email I sent to this guy:

This is an article you wrote when the Chargers were 6-1 and you were real proud of Marty. I have no personal dislike for Marty and even think he is a decent guy from meeting him at training camp in Carlisle. Marty's team has crashed and burned again. He has always had the rep for never being able to win the big one. Understandable now, isn't it? In your article you said (and I quote) "Pity. I had hoped to personally thank the little twerp for firing Marty Schottenheimer. I wanted Danny Boy to know just how well the antiquated coach was working out in San Diego, and see if Steve Spurrier might need any Super Bowl tickets" maybe we should inquire for a few extra for Marty also. Also just in case you forgot here is the article you "wrote":