My proposed Portis trade

[taylorcoreskin]

And as for not wanting anyone to be criticized.. That is false. You can flex the internet muscles as you wish.. no one cares truthfully.

You see, you only have ONE advantage over me.....you can kiss my ass and I can't!!

i would never go near your "ass".

[Titaw]

You know, you may be on to something. Come to think of it we should trade next year's first and Jason Campbell to the Saints for Drew Brees because he reminds me of Rypien. Then we trade Santana Moss and either next year's 2nd or 3rd (depending what's left from the Portis deal) to the Dolphins for Chris Chambers be cause he's like a Gary Clark / Art Monk Hybrid. Then we take and trade Marcus Washington and next years 4th to the Eagles for Jevon Kearse because he reminds me of Dexter.

[DirtySkin21]

Im sorry but the thought of this is stupid. We habve the perfect 1-2 punch with betts and portis. People are never going to be happy no matter WHAT.. i mean you people will have to get over the fact that you cant have the best player at every posititon and you cant trade away what you have to try and get someone elses old stuff.

portis is perfect for us and he has shown he has what it takes to win. We have other positions we have worry about. the RB isnt one

[skinsfan1992]

I propose that we trade Joe Gibbs for Bill Belicheck and Santana Moss for Marvin Harrison and uhhhhhhh o how bout Mark Brunell for Payton Manning lol this thread is soooooooooooopid

[Forever21]

Alright...well...maybe not the greatest thread in history but hell with it...it's something to discuss! So how about all those calling for 36Hammer's head take a valium and chill!

The reason I wouldn't make this trade is because Larry Johnson is a prima donna. He's a locker room problem and could be more full of himself than T.O. We don't hear much about it because he's on KC and he keeps it to himself and the locker room instead of in public. I bet Herm Edwards would take this trade in a second! Think about it.

KC gets Portis...a workhouse talented rb who is a great locker room presence with a serious chip on his shoulder...

WASH gets Johnson...a workhouse talented back who is a locker room cancer and who finally got the payday he was looking for...

We'd end up losing this trade I assure you.

[DirtySkin21]

yeah, I don't even want LJ...I always liked priest holmes. That was my dude. He was such a beast and he was a workhorse.. I remember hearing LJ cryin about how he better not get his startin job taken by holmes coming back in. I was like pleasee...

We should try and get holmes out of retirement or whatever. he would be a nice little compliment to portis.

[[[ghost]]]

I seriously think LJ is a product of that system. This season should tell a lot about him. Two of his best offensive lineman left, and he'll have to make due with replacements who are far inferior to them. Lets see if he can chalk up for yards now.

Portis also has a great line, but if you've seen him run, you know that he grinds it out with the long runs.

[Larry Gude]

just that he lacks the one thing he can't control, size.a pounding style of running game is in our blood, it's who this team is. it's the redskins identity.and to try anything else is to deny themselves.probably won't happen, but i believe it would be best for us in the long run.teams like people tend to get lost when the deny who the are to be something else. thanks for your time guys & gals. i await your response. go skins.

...this is yet one more head scratcher long time Skin fans have suffered from Gibbs II.

When it was announced he was coming back, thoughts went to counter trey and Jake and Grimm ploughing fields and Riggo running people over, of Lachey and Byner and Ricky Earvins pounding it in there. Of opponents worn down in the 4th quarter, of time consuming, game winning drives.

When the name Portis came up, it was like 'great ball player' and 'who does not fit the the 'Redskin' profile, at all' in the same thought.

Everybody drank the same Gibbs koolaid; Joe knows what he's doing and that first game against Tampa Bay it was electric. Since then, it's proved out that he isn't the most durable back.

[kingfish50]

i have long felt that Portis wasn't right for this team. he won me over with his heart and my respect for his effort. but his size ultimately has and will do him in. i purpose a trade with kc, portis and anywhere from a 3rd to a 1st for Larry Johnson. in Johnson you have a big back who can pound and yet can break it lose for a big gain if able. he also knows the offense save a few nuances. portis is already showing wear and tear that comes from a pound it style offense. when Gibbs came here first time he traded for washington, a little rb from the colts to replace riggins. it didn't work that time either. well, he's tried it again here and now we need to get Johnson.all opinions are welcome. i looked and didn't see anything about a trade portis for johnson question. so, here it is.i am not saying that portis is a scrub or anything, just that he lacks the one thing he can't control, size.a pounding style of running game is in our blood, it's who this team is. it's the redskins identity.and to try anything else is to deny themselves.probably won't happen, but i believe it would be best for us in the long run.teams like people tend to get lost when the deny who the are to be something else. thanks for your time guys & gals. i await your response. go skins.

I think Betts serves that purpose. He's a good inside power runner. Keep Portis and you have a double threat out of the backfield as it gives you more options on your running game.

After Betts performance last year, I think you'll see a lot more of him this season.

[PortisClinton]

anybody named clinton belongs in DC

Great analogy :applause:

[Sniffler]

I try to respect everyone's opinion on here... hell... I only hope that people respect my opinion... but this is beyond rediculous... I'm not one to throw out insults... but eff it... all of you who claim that we should trade Portis are MORONS!!!!!!

[SonnyRules]

Its amazing what one injured season can do to some fans.

If it was only "one" season, I might buy your argument. But realize, Clinton has been injured for two straight seasons. He was injured in the playoff run in 2006 and didn't do to well in the games against Tampa or Seattle.(Was pulled from the game reapeatedly because of shoulder stingers).

[nightbird]

I really like the idea of Larry Johnson in B&G. He is the type of runner Gibbs likes - Riggo, Rogers (Rodgers?), Riggs, Jackson. However, there are a few things I am uncomfortable about - we would overpay and Joe isn't running the O.

However getting LJ would still feel pretty good to the "Old School" fans.

:helmet: The Rook

A. George Rogers was benched in the playoffs for a (smaller) rookie named Timmy Smith.

B. Gerald Riggs was a short-yardage specialist, a backup to a (smaller) RB named Earnest Byner.

C. Who is Jackson?

I think a common misperception around here and everywhere else is that Gibbs is ALL about the big power running back because of the great Riggo memories.

Not true.

Secondly, there's more going into being a "power back" thans just size. We should all know that from the Duckett experience. Clinton runs through arm tackles and is ALWAYS moving forward as he gets tackled. He plays with all his heart and soul, blocks like a maniac, is a pretty good receiver, is shifty and elusive with great vision, and is DAMN hard to bring down.

But hey, lets trade our best offensive player for a malcontent just so these ridiculous threads will stop.

[nebster21]

Can we trade the clown that started this thread for I do not know maybe a half eaten sunflower seed.

[jeronimobrat]

a) No. Just showing how dumb it sounds. Anyone can be negative and single someone out. It is so easy to attack the poster.. not the idea. That is one of the major things wrong with ES. Who cares if this thread has been posted time after time after time. Don't open the thread. It is simple as that! NO ONE made you open this thread but, YOURSELF. If the thread bothers you so much.. why open it up and read it?

Again, no. (see above).

Well isn't attacking the idea the same as insulting a person who took the necessary time to post or write? If anything, it appears as if you're blowing this out of proportion while it is making no difference to those doing the attacking!

Yes. :yes:

Demanding him to be banned.. NNTed for "2 years". Being traded to the Dallas Cowboys forum for who cares in return..

Also, people have been claiming that the OP does crack.

All of that because he started a thread. I do not care how many threads are started on the same subject.. it isn't up to you or any one else on this board (save the mods) to do anything but, debate the topic at hand.

Don't like that idea? ..simply state that. No need to attack the OP for stating his opinion..

As many have stated that you are obliterating, they are not inflicting any physical/ mental harm to the poster! If there was a way for words to cause harm behind a screen, then we would all be banned from computers and television.

I never liked portis for champ B. trade to begin with, and yes I would go so far as to trade half of the offensive team away for larry johnson and even throw trent green in for that matter with this system. everything you said about portis being just past his peak and now on down hill slope and picking up speed fast. trade him get as much as you can now. If he goes down this year his trade value would hardly be worth the a 5th or 6th rd pick. P.S. there was misunderstanding about the dog fighting comment he made! don't misunderstand me i've hunted most of my life. but what i do hunt i eat! IT'S NOT FOR SPORT and harming any animals for someones thrills kicks and for money. "they should get a taste of there own medicine"!

Yeah! you're talking way off base!

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[Tom [Giants fan]]

When I first heard that the Chiefs were even entertaining the thought of trading Johnson, I thought they had lost it. If they trade him away, they will be one of the worst football teams around. I don't think getting Portis will help them. But, a first round pick added to that would I have to think be tempting. But again, them trading Johnson for almost anything is crazy.

[praise_gibbs]

Well isn't attacking the idea the same as insulting a person who took the necessary time to post or write? If anything, it appears as if you're blowing this out of proportion while it is making no difference to those doing the attacking!

As many have stated that you are obliterating, they are not inflicting any physical/ mental harm to the poster! If there was a way for words to cause harm behind a screen, then we would all be banned from computers and television.

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Not at all. You see, you just debated my opinion without attacking me personally at all. TOO MANY ES members have difficulty attacking the idea and wind up doing the exact opossite of what you just did.

While, you posted all of that.. you just proved my point even more.

[thebootydr]

i have long felt that Portis wasn't right for this team. he won me over with his heart and my respect for his effort. but his size ultimately has and will do him in. i purpose a trade with kc, portis and anywhere from a 3rd to a 1st for Larry Johnson. in Johnson you have a big back who can pound and yet can break it lose for a big gain if able. he also knows the offense save a few nuances. portis is already showing wear and tear that comes from a pound it style offense. when Gibbs came here first time he traded for washington, a little rb from the colts to replace riggins. it didn't work that time either. well, he's tried it again here and now we need to get Johnson.all opinions are welcome. i looked and didn't see anything about a trade portis for johnson question. so, here it is.i am not saying that portis is a scrub or anything, just that he lacks the one thing he can't control, size.a pounding style of running game is in our blood, it's who this team is. it's the redskins identity.and to try anything else is to deny themselves.probably won't happen, but i believe it would be best for us in the long run.teams like people tend to get lost when the deny who the are to be something else. thanks for your time guys & gals. i await your response. go skins.

No way they trade Johnson for the likes of him. He's tough, is not a fumbler, great pass blocker but average runner. His trade value is minimal. Why? Cause RBs like him are a dime a dozen. I would welcome a Portis trade. He is a product of the worst trade in Redskins history and the most overrated back in the league. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just blinded by team loyalty and not looking at him with objectivity.

Once again, I submit exhibit A:

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/StreetCred/2007/05/22/The_Most_Overrated_and_Underrated_Players_in_the_NFL

[thebootydr]

i have long felt that Portis wasn't right for this team. he won me over with his heart and my respect for his effort. but his size ultimately has and will do him in. i purpose a trade with kc, portis and anywhere from a 3rd to a 1st for Larry Johnson. in Johnson you have a big back who can pound and yet can break it lose for a big gain if able. he also knows the offense save a few nuances. portis is already showing wear and tear that comes from a pound it style offense. when Gibbs came here first time he traded for washington, a little rb from the colts to replace riggins. it didn't work that time either. well, he's tried it again here and now we need to get Johnson.all opinions are welcome. i looked and didn't see anything about a trade portis for johnson question. so, here it is.i am not saying that portis is a scrub or anything, just that he lacks the one thing he can't control, size.a pounding style of running game is in our blood, it's who this team is. it's the redskins identity.and to try anything else is to deny themselves.probably won't happen, but i believe it would be best for us in the long run.teams like people tend to get lost when the deny who the are to be something else. thanks for your time guys & gals. i await your response. go skins.

No way they trade Johnson for the likes of him. He's tough, not a fumbler, great pass blocker but average runner. His trade value is minimal. Why? Cause RBs like him are a dime a dozen. I would welcome a Portis trade. He is a product of the worst trade in Redskins history and the most overrated back in the league. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just blinded by team loyalty and not looking at him with objectivity.

Once again, I submit exhibit A:

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/StreetCred/2007/05/22/The_Most_Overrated_and_Underrated_Players_in_the_NFL

[Jim Bob]

As someone who lives in WNY, I'll vote for Willis McGahee as the most overrated RB in the NFL.

But, I wouldn't argue too much if someone were to say that Portis was in the Top 5.

And if this team is going to trade Portis, I'd rather go after another position than go after a big money RB.

I'd rather get a good, young, hungry back to pair with Betts like the Chargers have with Turner playing behind LT.

[BAFGA]

As someone who lives in WNY, I'll vote for Willis McGahee as the most overrated RB in the NFL.

But, I wouldn't argue too much if someone were to say that Portis was in the Top 5.

And if this team is going to trade Portis, I'd rather go after another position than go after a big money RB.

I'd rather get a good, young, hungry back to pair with Betts like the Chargers have with Turner playing behind LT.

I'd rather them get a position of need rather than a RB for a RB. Did we trade away Champ Bailey for another CB?

If we trade Portis, we better not give away a yacht and end up with a sailboat, to paraphrase the great Ken Beatrice.

[nightbird]

No way they trade Johnson for the likes of him. He's tough, not a fumbler, great pass blocker but average runner. His trade value is minimal. Why? Cause RBs like him are a dime a dozen. I would welcome a Portis trade. He is a product of the worst trade in Redskins history and the most overrated back in the league. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just blinded by team loyalty and not looking at him with objectivity.

Once again, I submit exhibit A:

http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/StreetCred/2007/05/22/The_Most_Overrated_and_Underrated_Players_in_the_NFL

Your Exhibit A gets an F.

Is your "evidence" the fact that someone named "StreetCred" thinks CP is overrated? And if so, do you agree that Tana is the most overrated wideout?

Because that's pretty lame.

But not as lame as you calling me "blinded by team loyalty" just because I don't agree with you. Not everyone has to see things exactly the same way as you.

As far as "worst trade in Redskins history" -- that's a joke, right? You do know that Champ was determined to leave us, right? As in, he would have become a free agent and we would get nothing in return. You do know this, comprende?

[Doozinbrah]

Portis Trade Threads Are Almost As Cool As All Caps!!!!!!!!!!EXCEPT IT WONT LET ME USE ALL CAPS.....MMMM

[DA SKINS!]

It is so funny how people wish harm on a guy for posting on a message board. Does this idea of trading CP and a pick for LJ really piss you off that bad? LOL Seriously?

I pitty the lives that you live. :doh:

:applause: very well written. It's crazy reading some of the responses. I think to many people take this board a little to serious. I see more bashing than anything significant to read more than half the time. I see this board is very well run and maintained... :2cents:

[Bossman_SKins]

is there crack in the water that some of these fans are drinking to want to demand a trade for portis after one freak injury plagued season?. you should be nnt'ed for life