shedrick Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 John Cayton report Bly might be headed to Washington. Would be a lot cheaper than Clements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKM311 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Yea but it would cost us something in a trade. If its a player like Patten or someone else, then sure, but I swear if I see a draft pick thrown in for this guy, I will PUKE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavar1156 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I can see it now...Brandon Lloyd for Dre Bly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 sounds good to me...I bet we trade a 2008 pick hopefully 2nd day. here is his scouting report: Bly is an outstanding athlete who has excellent body control and quickness. He doesn't waste much motion, has very fluid hips and can turn and run on a dime. He has a rare combination of quickness to cover the slot and top-end speed to play on the perimeter. He is as good as it gets when it comes to mirroring a receiver in coverage. He is very confident and loves to challenge bigger receivers. He is competitive and plays a little bigger than his size suggests. He is a playmaker who always seems to be in the right place at the right time. He has excellent recovery ability when he does make a mistake. But Bly is undersized and not very physical. He sometimes has trouble against size receivers who can push off to create separation. He isn't much help in run support. He struggles to shed blocks and seems a little indifferent. He is ****y and will take some unnecessary chances. He misses some open-field tackles. He tends to get banged up. EDIT - The guy only has one more year under contract, I belive 4.2 mil base salary do you think we would give him an extention and lower his hit or just keep him on for the season on a trial basis to see how he turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGift Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 He was special earlier in his career but now This guy gets toasted regularly...but the Skins will probably bite anyways (just like they will most likely bite for london fletcher :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I like Dre Bly so much that I think someone should start a thread about him every 4 hours or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgs44 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Detroit is looking for a 3rd and or players. Seeing as we dont have a 3rd...it would have to be an 08 pick...and seeing as how a 3rd this year equates to a 2nd in 08...I hope we pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagman Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I can see it now...Brandon Lloyd for Dre Bly. Thats a win win situation IMO!:applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 no thanks. I'll take a younger Nate Clements please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 no thanks. I'll take a younger Nate Clements please. Clements is looking for waaay too much $$$ we need to be realistic, this defense has alot of holes to plug and can't afford dumping that much into one player. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truant Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Trade LLoyd and speed up the cap hit? No thanks. Gotta have some patience folks. So does the Front office. I understand Joe doesn't have much time, but giving away these picks are killer. We essentially gave up a first round pick (this year's second rounder) last year (plus other picks) for one year of Rocky Mac. Bly is old and will cost plenty. Find a decent option in FA (Hood), trade down, use a second round pick to grow some talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMOSS89 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Im sure they would only get Bly if it would be "cheaper" than getting Clements. If thats the case, then I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higgs44 Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Im sure they would only get Bly if it would be "cheaper" than getting Clements. If thats the case, then I'm all for it. Bly wants a Pay Day... otherwise Det wouldnt be trading him. Hes 30... please NO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 It's time for.... "things we know" 1) Greg Williams like large DBs... 5-11/200lbs is his prototype. See Carlos Rogers, Shawn Springs, Walt Harris, Kenny Wright. 2) Dre Bly is 5-9, 185. 3) Why does Dre Bly want out of Detroit? http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar " Detroit will trade cornerback Dre’ Bly and pass rusher James Hall, who had five sacks last season before ending up on injured-reserve. The Lions owe Hall a $500,000 bonus next month and they aren’t going to pay him. Bly wants out because he’s not a classic cover-two cornerback; he’s not interested in run-support tackling." Does this sound like a match to anyone? Am I missing something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistertim Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 no thanks. I'll take a younger Nate Clements please. I agree. Bly is pretty good in certain areas but there are some things in that scouting report that give me pause. The fact that he is undersized and not very physical is pretty much the opposite of what GW looks for in a corner; it also says he is not very good in run support. Clements is the opposite in all three of those areas in addition to having all the coverage skills of Bly. Indifferent? ****y? Misses open field tackles? Gets banged up easily? No thanks, I'd rather have Clements, even though he will cost much more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 It's time for.... "things we know"1) Greg Williams like large DBs... 5-11/200lbs is his prototype. See Carlos Rogers, Shawn Springs, Walt Harris, Kenny Wright. 2) Dre Bly is 5-9, 185. 3) Why does Dre Bly want out of Detroit? http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar " Detroit will trade cornerback Dre’ Bly and pass rusher James Hall, who had five sacks last season before ending up on injured-reserve. The Lions owe Hall a $500,000 bonus next month and they aren’t going to pay him. Bly wants out because he’s not a classic cover-two cornerback; he’s not interested in run-support tackling." Does this sound like a match to anyone? Am I missing something? Like the article says, he doesn't like the cover-two. He shouldn't even be considered here then. Clements is one of the top 3 CB's in the NFL. My hopes are that he's on the plane with Fletcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Plus, this team needs to learn the importance of draft picks which will all can agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Day Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 It's time for.... "things we know"1) Greg Williams like large DBs... 5-11/200lbs is his prototype. See Carlos Rogers, Shawn Springs, Walt Harris, Kenny Wright. 2) Dre Bly is 5-9, 185. 3) Why does Dre Bly want out of Detroit? http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar " Detroit will trade cornerback Dre’ Bly and pass rusher James Hall, who had five sacks last season before ending up on injured-reserve. The Lions owe Hall a $500,000 bonus next month and they aren’t going to pay him. Bly wants out because he’s not a classic cover-two cornerback; he’s not interested in run-support tackling." Does this sound like a match to anyone? Am I missing something? Thank you for posting that, it is exactly what I thought about these rumors. I think this Bly stuff is a smokescreen to shield the NC negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 It's time for.... "things we know"1) Greg Williams like large DBs... 5-11/200lbs is his prototype. See Carlos Rogers, Shawn Springs, Walt Harris, Kenny Wright. 2) Dre Bly is 5-9, 185. 3) Why does Dre Bly want out of Detroit? http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/NFL_Czar " Detroit will trade cornerback Dre’ Bly and pass rusher James Hall, who had five sacks last season before ending up on injured-reserve. The Lions owe Hall a $500,000 bonus next month and they aren’t going to pay him. Bly wants out because he’s not a classic cover-two cornerback; he’s not interested in run-support tackling." Everybody knows this about Bly...the fact of the matter is John Clayton simply doesn't just spew nonsense, most of his rumors are substantial... GW used far more cover 2 last year than ever before, could he be veereing away from it considering that he has never had a defense play that badly? possibly...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Thank you for posting that, it is exactly what I thought about these rumors. I think this Bly stuff is a smokescreen to shield the NC negotiations. That thought was in the back of my mind, but what does it matter since we are headed to Buffalo to pick up Fletcher and as I have alluded to I'm sure Clements will be on board as well. We desperately need both Fletcher and Clements on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Bly has also had 3 seasons with 6 ints...not too shabby, I'd say he is a playmaker...but that is just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 i remember last year when people were surprised we got both Lloyd and Randle El. I am fearful this is a repeat with Bly and Clements. Please let this all be a smokescreen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 i remember last year when people were surprised we got both Lloyd and Randle El.I am fearful this is a repeat with Bly and Clements. Please let this all be a smokescreen. Would Bly and Clements be a bad thing...its certainly an upgrade from Rogers and Wright, am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJ Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Would Bly and Clements be a bad thing...its certainly an upgrade from Rogers and Wright, am I wrong? It is, but we don't need both. We only need one and my vote is for Clements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
argentina_redskins Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 I'd really like this guy for our #3 cornerback. If the Lions don't release him, then I'd have to re-think it, but if they do we should give him like a 3 year/6 mill contract to be our nickel back. As for our #2 guy, we should jump all over Fred Smoot who is most likely gonna be released by the Vikings. He is a playmaker and could be very good. I think we should make Carlos Rogers our #1 CB NOW. We spent a Top 10 pick on him, and by his 3rd year he HAS to step up his play, so I fully expect Joe Gibbs to give him the confidence he needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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