Propose Offseason Personnel Change

[method man]

Assuming we have the #5 pick in the draft, we drop to ~ no. 10 and pick up a 2nd and a couple late picks along the way.

In:

Leon Hall

HB Blades

Brian Leonard

Justin Smith/Chris Kelsay

OL and DL in the draft + a safety in the 5th

Rian Lindell

Terdell Sands/Ethan Kelley

Out:

Archuleta

Dockery

Patten

Wynn

Daniels

Holdman

Hall

Rumph

Retain:

Betts

Extend:

Cooley

Taylor

Basically, we pick up young talent via the draft and have one major FA signing in Justin Smith. Hall is the top cover guy in the draft. Blades is a quality MLB who will replace Marshall, possibly by midseason. Sellers will be 32 next year and Leonard is the best fullback to come out of college in a while. If necessary we package a couple picks this year + a 2nd in 2008 to get the pick to draft him. He is very athletic and is a punishing blocker as well as a receiver. We clear up cap by letting Wynn and Daniels go. We cut deadweight like Patten, Hall, and Holdman, clearing up cap. Arch hurts this team more than he helps it. You can't have a 5 mil STer. Take the cap hit if necessary.

We let Dockery go and replace him with Molinaro, who is now a guard. If Molinaro sucked, he would have gone the way of Wilson. I'm thinking there is something there. It would be awesome to finally have a late round pick start on the OL.

Position Analysis for 2007 with proposed changes:

QB: We keep Brunell because he is at least a quality backup. Remember Brunell plays well if he is fresh. If Campbell were to go down for a couple games next year, I would trust Brunell to step in for one last season. Collins continues to tutor Campbell.

RB: We let Duckett go and keep Betts who has become important in our offense. Although Saunders likes Betts more than Portis, Betts is too important to let go. Portis will return at 100% if we put him on IR and just let him heal this offseason. Cartwright is as solid a no. 3 RB as any.

FB: Sellers continues to start and play a vital role in this offense and on special teams. However, we must realize this guy has been playing pro football since he was 18. He will start to show signs of aging soon. Although I think he has 2-3 good seasons left, it is good to not risk it. We must draft Brian Leonard of Rutgers, who is the top fullback in the nation by far. As well as being a good lead blocker, he is also a good receiver out of hte backfield and provides Campbell with another safety valve. (I remember Kreider being important to Big Ben early on).

TE: Cooley gets a well-deserved extension and will give Campbell yet another receiving option. I think Campbell will lean on Cooley a lot in the early going. I think we should let Fauria go and try to get a real blocking TE. Sellers should also play a lot of TE too in packages where Leonard is at FB.

WR: We never use Patten anyway so why keep him? I think we are better served with a special teamer like Espy getting that no. 4 spot. If he has improved over the course of the season, then he should probably win a TC battle for that spot. Moss, Lloyd, and Randle El will step it up with JC at the helm.

OT: Samuels and Jansen must go on a stringent offseason conditioning program, especially Jansen. Jansen should be in his prime, now. We draft OT in 2008. Wade is a quality backup here.

OG: Thomas is our best OL. Molinaro should be given a realistic challenge from a journeyman FA guard (maybe Walter and Pucillo) to push him for the spot. Ray Brown, the original OG (pun intended), should work with Molinaro all offseason long on technique and Hastings must really help Molinaro to become stronger as Molinaro is already probably quick enough to play guard. We also draft a RG in Day 2 because Thomas is 32. Good guards can actually be found late in the draft.

C: Rabach is average. Let's just keep him for cohesion purposes. It would really affect chemistry to lose two OL. I think we should use a day 2 pick on a center as well.

DEFENSE

DT: I think we may need a new nose tackle with Salavea aging. I like Terdell Sands of the Raiders. He is stuck behind Sapp currently but he is a run stuffer who is so big he will have to be double-teamed. This will open up pass rush opportunities for Smith, Carter, and Griffin (a 3 technique who has no business play NT). No one knows about Sands and he is unspectacular so we can get him for a bargain price (finally). We don't need to draft anyone as we already drafted two possible future starters here. Golston and Montgomery must continue to improve. Golston should also get some time at DE as well. Montgomery needs to become stronger so he can become stouter against the run. We keep Salavea as a backup as he is a leader and on an inexpensive deal.

DE: Carter is showing signs of improvement and would really benefit from having another pass rush threat at DE in Smith. Smith is a quality player who can get to the passer and is very good at stuffing the run. We should continue to platoon Evans with Carter next year. We draft a pass rush specialist at DE in Day 2. They can always be found here and they are easy to find. These are projected Day 1 picks that drop out of Day 1 (ie Alex Brown, Ray Edwards, Dumervil).

OLB: I think Rocky will be a playmaker at this level. If he were only 10 pounds heavier, I'd put him at MLB because he is a smart guy (Wonderlic of 30). However, I do not want what happened to Marshall to happen to him. Rocky and Washington will make plays at OLB next year with a pass rush. They will come through open holes and sack the QB and force fumbles.

MLB: Marshall continues to start here, at least to start of the season but Blades is a stud who will really push him. Because he is a rook, Blades won't start. Marshall's contract expires after 2007 so we replace him with Blades then.

SS: We have Prioleau, Vincent, and our draftee here. Good safeties can be found in the 5th. Teams found Greg Blue and Antoine Bethea here. I actually wanted them here but we got Montgomery instead (no qualms about it). I'm just pissed off we drafted that scrub Doughty. Doughty runs a 4.90 meaning Golston is faster than him. Doughty just does not have what it takes to play in the NFL. In preseason, we have a healthy Prioleau (who has months to rehab his injury) compete with Vincent for the starting job. In Buffalo, Vincent was known to tutor DBs so he helps the new safety, Rogers, and Hall to develop.

FS: Sean Taylor continues to play here, obviously. He should bounce back from this off-year. If Taylor were to get injured, Prioleau and Vincent are more than capable of playing FS. We could look at getting a former starter for the minimum

CB: With Hall here, we are defintely set for next year. Springs, Rogers, and Hall form a solid trio. Hall, like Rogers, plays nickelback his rookie year and, possibly, takes over for Springs as the season goes on. We let Springs eventually go from CB to SS in 2008 if he renegotiates his contract. If not, then we cut him. We keep Wright to be the no. 4 guy, which he is suited for. Jimoh stays too.

Special Teams

K: Rian Lindell is a solid veteran kicker. He is not great but he is solid and can make 40-yard FGs. Seatlle's kicker Brown is also a FA but I don't want to get into a bidding war over him.

P: I guess we keep Frost if we can't find another option. He is having an inconsistent season but is showing signs of growing.

LS: Albright is da man.

I would call this a solid team. We return to having young hungry players on D. Campbell will also have enough weapons to be good on offense.

[F Landry]

Where can we give this guy a contract?

I think we found our new GM!!

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Just kidding, but I like your ideas.

I mean, it really doesn't matter what WE think...but it would be nice to see something similar to what you suggested.

Overall good post, and a good read.

Kudos.

[RedskinzOwnU]

We can't keep Brunell unless he restructures his contract. The cap hit is just too big to warrant a backup QB. We also can't keep Brunell because Gibbs will be itching to put him back in. It's like living next to a casino, you just can't do it - the temptation will overwhelm him.

[PleaseBlitz]

Good thoughts. I really think we need to pick up Leon Hall CB Michigan. Springs is getting on in years and Hall is shutdown.

I like the inclusion of Brian Leonard, but Sellers has another good year in him and we should replace him with Owen Schmitt the next year.

[PleaseBlitz]

We can't keep Brunell unless he restructures his contract. The cap hit is just too big to warrant a backup QB. We also can't keep Brunell because Gibbs will be itching to put him back in. It's like living next to a casino, you just can't do it - the temptation will overwhelm him.

Brunell is gone. He isnt going to stick around to play backup. He's got enough $$$$ to retire, and thats what he's going to have to do, cause we arent keeping him around at that price.

[Skin Them Alive]

I like your ideas. I would be worried about the DE's run defense but the pass rush would be a lot better.

[redskin81]

Gotta get rid of coles and trung. Just not cutting it.Im tired of Champs ego too. I know its unrealistic but can we trade him?

[hitmandm]

I like your analysis except for the Dockery. Griff and Washington have huge cap increases so keeping them is tough. I think that Hall from UM is a great pick, but don't rule out DT Branch from Michigan. This guy is a stud and is incredibly athletic for a big man.

If we pick up a decent #2 pick, I would rather take Branch then a CB in round 2, since it is deep there and we should get a good CB in round 2.

[Res_Novae]

Works, although I'd rather us draft a stud D-lineman with our 1st, maybe someone to start in place of Daniels, or start a guy in place of Salavea, and keep Sals as a backup. I don't know the college picks that well, so if there is a lack of good Dlinemen, then go ahead with the corner, I just feel that we are set there for a little bit longer than line (Springs has a couple years, Rogers and Wright will both improve.)

[method man]

I like your analysis except for the Dockery. Griff and Washington have huge cap increases so keeping them is tough. I think that Hall from UM is a great pick, but don't rule out DT Branch from Michigan. This guy is a stud and is incredibly athletic for a big man.

If we pick up a decent #2 pick, I would rather take Branch then a CB in round 2, since it is deep there and we should get a good CB in round 2.

I believe in Montgomery, man. He seems to show all the characteristics of becoming a good nose tackle. We are set at DT, in my opinion. Trust me that after Hall, McCauley, and Revis, there is nothing left. Caseion and Hughes are just screaming bust to me.

I think Dockery is holding this line back. Sure, he may be well-rated but he is bringing down Samuels's play because he has to keep on covering for him. Plus, I also hear that Bugel is always on Dock's case according to a guy who hangs with Lefotu. While Molinaro may not have Dock's physical gifts, he seems like a guy who will know what he is doing. He has been learning the nuances of playing OL in the NFL for three years. With his tackle-like quickness, I think Molinaro will also be able to pull, which Dockery can't do.

[method man]

Works, although I'd rather us draft a stud D-lineman with our 1st, maybe someone to start in place of Daniels, or start a guy in place of Salavea, and keep Sals as a backup. I don't know the college picks that well, so if there is a lack of good Dlinemen, then go ahead with the corner, I just feel that we are set there for a little bit longer than line (Springs has a couple years, Rogers and Wright will both improve.)

Yeah, unfortunately, none of the college DEs are worth taking with a top 10 pick. Adams is still a bit unproven and Quentin Moses has been inconsistent this season. Furthermore, I don't know about you guys but I do not want to give Clements or Samuels, the only 2 good starting level corners in FA, the huge contracts they are going to get. I think we are set at DT. I like what I see from Golston and Montgomery.

[method man]

I like your ideas. I would be worried about the DE's run defense but the pass rush would be a lot better.

I am still a bit worried about Carter's run D but McIntosh's strength is shedding blocks. We'll see how the Carter-McIntosh combo does once Rocky Mac gets to starts.

[method man]

Good thoughts. I really think we need to pick up Leon Hall CB Michigan. Springs is getting on in years and Hall is shutdown.

I like the inclusion of Brian Leonard, but Sellers has another good year in him and we should replace him with Owen Schmitt the next year.

I am a strong proponent of grooming guys to take over after a season of learning their position in the NFL. Plus, would you not salivate at the thought of having Leonard free up Sellers to play TE at times?

[skinsngibbs4life]

-Sign Nate Clements

-Retain Ladell Betts

-Trade down in the draft

-Draft a pass rushing DE with our 1st rounder

-Draft a OL with our next highest pic(whatever it would)

-And depending on cap room, try and extend cooley's and taylors contracts

[Cliffmark1]

I like what your saying but I disagree with you on these points:

Rodgers is in no way appropriate to be a Safety of any kind its a miracle when he tackles. He can cover, its just that Williams coaching has f***** his mind up. Let him talk to his old coaches, keep him as a CB.

Draft choices go to the Lines (and develop them over time!), AA traded for another DB most likely a CB. With a Caveat- Test Carter and AA at OLB see what they can do.

Trade Samuels for another OL, restructure Jansens contract so we can pay him according to his ability right now.

Trade Brunell or restructure contract, for a second qb perhaps we should look at the Tulane QB who led them to their undefeated season, i.e. the QB starting before Ramsey. He looks good for a back up and plays how Gibbs likes. Perhaps we give El some more reps at 3rd/4th QB as a cheap back up this could be just the cost saving measure we need to keep most of our receiving core-- I'm not sure I buy the "he's to short" argument if hes a backup. And learning the plays from a QB standpoint could only help El's receiving and running.

Pay Novak less next year and get another kicker.

Basically keep as many players as possible, get new players when neccessary.

[skinsngibbs4life]

Yeah, unfortunately, none of the college DEs are worth taking with a top 10 pick. Adams is still a bit unproven and Quentin Moses has been inconsistent this season. Furthermore, I don't know about you guys but I do not want to give Clements or Samuels, the only 2 good starting level corners in FA, the huge contracts they are going to get. I think we are set at DT. I like what I see from Golston and Montgomery.

sometime the best rushers are those who dont get that much recognition in college.

[method man]

If I remember correctly, we will not get a significant cap penalty if we cut Brunell after 2008. I believe although he was given a 6-year deal, he essentially signed a 4-year deal. If we cut him, that along with Arch's cap hit would hurt us in terms of dead cap. We will probably do with Griffin and Washington, core skins, what we do with others before them. Convert base salary into roster bonuses.

[skinsngibbs4life]

Trade Brunell or restructure contract, for a second qb perhaps we should look at the Tulane QB who led them to their undefeated season, i.e. the QB starting before Ramsey. He looks good for a back up and plays how Gibbs likes. Perhaps we give El some more reps at 3rd/4th QB as a cheap back up could be just the cost saving measure we need to keep most of our receiving core-- I'm not sure I buy the "he's to short" argument if hes a backup.

and what do you expect to get for Brunell?

I hate to break it to you, but NO ONE in there right mind would trade even a 7th rounder for brunell...not a bash on brunell, its just the facts

[Cliffmark1]

I think we might get a Todd Collins for Brunell, s*** we already have Collins....

[smitty71]

I am all for Leon Hall. We all know we are super weak at CB now. I never thought that would be an issue but it is.

Great post and good research!

[Skin Them Alive]

I am still a bit worried about Carter's run D but McIntosh's strength is shedding blocks. We'll see how the Carter-McIntosh combo does once Rocky Mac gets to starts.

Wouldn't he be stsrting noe if he was good at shedding blocks. That is one big difference in D this year. THe front four is being embarased for the most part. LAst year it was like running into a brick wall. That wall is now 5 yards down the field. THE linebackers don't help. If Washington wasn't there it would be Sean TAylor vs the other team.

[method man]

I like what your saying but I disagree with you on these points:

Rodgers is in no way appropriate to be a Safety of any kind its a miracle when he tackles. He can cover, its just that Williams coaching has f***** his mind up. Let him talk to his old coaches, keep him as a CB.

Draft choices go to the Lines (and develop them over time!), AA traded for another DB most likely a CB. With a Caveat- Test Carter and AA at OLB see what they can do.

Trade Samuels for another OL, restructure Jansens contract so we can pay him according to his ability right now.

Trade Brunell or restructure contract, for a second qb perhaps we should look at the Tulane QB who led them to their undefeated season, i.e. the QB starting before Ramsey. He looks good for a back up and plays how Gibbs likes. Perhaps we give El some more reps at 3rd/4th QB as a cheap back up this could be just the cost saving measure we need to keep most of our receiving core-- I'm not sure I buy the "he's to short" argument if hes a backup. And learning the plays from a QB standpoint could only help El's receiving and running.

Pay Novak less next year and get another kicker.

Basically keep as many players as possible, get new players when neccessary.

1. I never said we should convert Rogers into a corner although I feel he would be good at it. I said we should convert Springs into one if he takes a paycut as he gets older (ie 34, 35)

2. We do have other needs besides the lines. I advocate drafting linemen in this draft but I think we can find linemen to fit our specific needs late in the draft. We had shots at guys like Elton Brown, Richie Incognito, and Mark Setterstrom in Day 2 in the last 3 drafts but we just chose not to make a move. Trust me. Pass rushers will be there in Day 2. They are not hard to find either. We just never take them.

3. Carter is too slow to play OLB in a 4-3 scheme and Arch is too small. Carter has shown signs of turning it around the past few weeks and he is the lesser of two evils between Arch and him. Plus, we already have Rocky at WLB. Do you want Rocky to sit on the bench or something?

4. You might be able to trade Arch for a late Day 2 pick to the Bears because we would absorb the hit on his SB anyway (even if we released him). The Bears would probably take him at this price because they are getting Arch w/o the SB. However, there is no way you will get anything better than a dime corner for Arch. No other team besides the bears would want him at his current price.

5. It is impossible to trade Samuels or cut him. His SB is just too big and we would immediately be in cap hell if we cut him. Plus no one makes straight up trades in the NFL with players with contracts the size of Samuels. This is not the NBA. Samuels is a very good LT anyway. As I said, Dock is holding him back with his ineptness.

6. Randle El at QB? You are joking. Plus I addressed my point about Brunell in my last post. Keep him one more year and cut him when the cap hit for cutting him will be low.

7. Keep Novak? Hell no. Get me Lindell right away.

8. I agree with you in principle but guys who just don't want it or get paid too much like Wynn, Daniels, Dock, and Patten must go.

[method man]

Wouldn't he be stsrting noe if he was good at shedding blocks. That is one big difference in D this year. THe front four is being embarased for the most part. LAst year it was like running into a brick wall. That wall is now 5 yards down the field. THE linebackers don't help. If Washington wasn't there it would be Sean TAylor vs the other team.

I have zero clue why McIntosh is not starting. He has shown speed and strength on teams here. Plus he is "super-smart." Gibbs did say we will get to see him more from now on. Maybe Williams is so infatuated with Holdman.

[method man]

WE MUST NOT SIGN NATE CLEMENTS. That is a key to this offseason. He will get a massive deal from some club, probably Oakland. He is not as good as advertised anyway from what I've heard. I'd rather get Justin Smith from Cincy for a moderately priced deal.

[Skin Them Alive]

WE MUST NOT SIGN NATE CLEMENTS. That is a key to this offseason. He will get a massive deal from some club, probably Oakland. He is not as good as advertised anyway from what I've heard. I'd rather get Justin Smith from Cincy for a moderately priced deal.

HE will most likely get signed by Cinci but it would be a nice addition.

Clements would be a good addition if we could get him for the right price but that will most likely not happen. We need to build through tthe draft but we have no picks. We have three picks next year. ONe will be a good one.