MoochieDC_86 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I know this is late but did anyone notice about 80% of the time Roy Williams went to tackle a Giant he went for the collar and when he was successful it never got called????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shif7y Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Thats cause they are always running by him, he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishOrange15 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Neither were a horse collar. The first one had a chance to be, but the rules state that the player has to be drug down immediately. The second one he only had Barber's jersey. Even Barber wasn't upset about it and outside of Shockey, neither were the rest of the Giants. Why? Because they know the rule. YAKUZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnFoRcEr_uPu Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Neither were a horse collar.The first one had a chance to be, but the rules state that the player has to be drug down immediately. The second one he only had Barber's jersey. Even Barber wasn't upset about it and outside of Shockey, neither were the rest of the Giants. Why? Because they know the rule. YAKUZA You're right about the dragging down immediately part, but wrong about the jersey part. The back of the jersey is now illegal as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hail2Joe Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yeah, even after he took out the back judge they still refused to call him for several of those shoulder pad drag downs. I love how the tv guys always remind us that the rule was created because of him, but they never actually call him for it. I did enjoy Roy gettin' burned all night, but you would think they would have called him for one of the many time he did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcardle1982 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 I hate the cowgirls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinshooligan Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yeah, even after he took out the back judge they still refused to call him for several of those shoulder pad drag downs. I love how the tv guys always remind us that the rule was created because of him, but they never actually call him for it. I did enjoy Roy gettin' burned all night, but you would think they would have called him for one of the many time he did it. they made the rule for him because he always gets burned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishOrange15 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yeah, even after he took out the back judge they still refused to call him for several of those shoulder pad drag downs. I love how the tv guys always remind us that the rule was created because of him, but they never actually call him for it. I did enjoy Roy gettin' burned all night, but you would think they would have called him for one of the many time he did it. Roy had 4 passes thrown his way that were his responsibility. He gave up 1 catch for 13 yards (Shockey TD). Even on that play, ILB Bradie James didn't do him any favors. James had short zone coverage. James left his zone to go after Toomer (I think it was him) who cut into the short zone, then deeked out. James should've never left his zone since Toomer was already covered by Newman. That left Manning a lane to throw the pass to Shockey. So outside of giving up a 13 yard pass and getting tackled by a ref on a pass that wasn't his responsibility, he was hardly getting burned all night by any stretch. YAKUZA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 add water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeownU Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Roy had 4 passes thrown his way that were his responsibility. He gave up 1 catch for 13 yards (Shockey TD). Even on that play, ILB Bradie James didn't do him any favors. James had short zone coverage. James left his zone to go after Toomer (I think it was him) who cut into the short zone, then deeked out. James should've never left his zone since Toomer was already covered by Newman. That left Manning a lane to throw the pass to Shockey. So outside of giving up a 13 yard pass and getting tackled by a ref on a pass that wasn't his responsibility, he was hardly getting burned all night by any stretch. YAKUZA As usual, you are always one of the most educated posters this board has ever seen, but for the life of me, I have to ask why you even bother. All your research, all the time you spend documenting facts and trying to educate people, will be cast away like yesterdays garbage on here, because its much easier to ignore it so someone can say........."Roy got burned". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 He doesn't know how to tackle..He has to pull people down by the back of their jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 As usual, you are always one of the most educated posters this board has ever seen, but for the life of me, I have to ask why you even bother. All your research, all the time you spend documenting facts and trying to educate people, will be cast away like yesterdays garbage on here, because its much easier to ignore it so someone can say........."Roy got burned". :laugh: the funny part is, Roy gets burned repeatedly, and all the defense of him just makes it even funnier go ahead sugar coat it, spin it, deny it..... doesn't change the facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 The main part of the rule is the leg swing, I thought. Grab the collar, drag down, fine, but swing those legs out in front of you and it becomes a horse collar, right? Now, I could have sworn I saw him do that on the tackle on Barber, who I'm sure didn't mind (or notice) because he managed to drag him for a few yards after an already decent gain. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 As usual, you are always one of the most educated posters this board has ever seen, but for the life of me, I have to ask why you even bother. All your research, all the time you spend documenting facts and trying to educate people, will be cast away like yesterdays garbage on here, because its much easier to ignore it so someone can say........."Roy got burned". Dude...Roy Williams sucks...he's a liability to your team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEREAFTER Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 :laugh: the funny part is, Roy gets burned repeatedly, and all the defense of him just makes it even funniergo ahead sugar coat it, spin it, deny it..... doesn't change the facts As usual, no substantiative, factual discussion to dispute Rich's post. Just more of the same "he got burned all game every game" talk. Pretty sad.. :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEREAFTER Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Dude...Roy Williams sucks...he's a liability to your team... :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 :laugh: :laugh: You know he sucks...he really does...of course, I don't have any actual facts to back that up, but rest assured, he does suck... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 You're right about the dragging down immediately part, but wrong about the jersey part. The back of the jersey is now illegal as well. They dont call the horse collar on anyone, let alone Roy Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 You know he sucks...he really does...of course, I don't have any actual facts to back that up, but rest assured, he does suck... :laugh: Great argument. I'll be sure to remember that one so I can use it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHEREAFTER Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 You know he sucks...he really does...of course, I don't have any actual facts to back that up, but rest assured, he does suck... :laugh: :laugh: He's what we have :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Great argument. I'll be sure to remember that one so I can use it too. Please note the :laugh: before posting. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVA2Tampa Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 :laugh: He's what we have :laugh: It is what it is, right? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaw Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Roy Williams is a great run stopper and average - at best - in coverage. With that said he and Sean Taylor are one in the same except for the horsecollar thing. Sean Taylor gets burned just as often as Roy Williams. I just can't see the roasting of Roy Williams on anything other than the horse collar thing because like it or not Roy and Sean are the same player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYSportsfreak Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Roy Williams is a great run stopper and average - at best - in coverage. With that said he and Sean Taylor are one in the same except for the horsecollar thing. Sean Taylor gets burned just as often as Roy Williams. I just can't see the roasting of Roy Williams on anything other than the horse collar thing because like it or not Roy and Sean are the same player. Both sound like rich man's Gibril Wilsons and Will Dempses, lol. :laugh: BTW, I think that Sean Taylor from what I've seen is a better ball hawk, but you guys have seen more of him than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaw Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 Both sound like rich man's Gibril Wilsons and Will Dempses, lol. :laugh: BTW, I think that Sean Taylor from what I've seen is a better ball hawk, but you guys have seen more of him than me. He may be marginally better, but the young mistakes Taylor makes makes them one in the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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