tone_dubbz Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Last I checked......JC was listed as a QB. So how is benching Mark for Jason to going to help us with: A.) stopping bumb RBs from gaining 170+ yards? B.) cover oppossing WR's all over the field? C.) pass rush the QB? It just makes me sick that people are still calling for Mark's head after this lose, becasue it was painfully obvious he's not he problem. It's aggravating to hear some of you fan's constantly rip Brunnell, I mean did you morons even watch the game? Or do you just run with what ever petty thought that appears in your feeble mind? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaadin123 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Get rid of the last "E" in answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruffylookin Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 May I play devil's advocate. How is 1. stopping a bum RB from getting 170 yards 2. covering WR all over the field 3. rushing the passer going to solve the problem of a 36 year old quarterback who has tunnel vision and is far more comfortable throwing 5 yard dump offs than challenging a defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted October 17, 2006 Author Share Posted October 17, 2006 Get rid of the last "E" in answer Thanks, got too excited I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 They'll tell you Brunell doesn't make the reads he should/he keys in on Moss too much. Maybe there's some truth to that, but honestly, it's not such a huge problem as to point him out and make him the scapegoat. It's just way too easy for us fans who think we see everything to blame it on the QB. Always has been this way. It's as if noone ever sees the numerous plays he's made to second/third reads and not just to the check down. How about the times he scrambled and bought some time for us to make a first down throw? He did it numerous times and other times the ball was JUST off the mark and could've been a huge play. A lot of things have been going wrong for us. It is what it is. We just gotta make those plays when they're there. It'll come together. It's sickening to see so many call him noodle arm when he has shown MANY times that he can throw the ball with incredible zip. It just proves these people want to moan and complain about things simply because it's the popular thing to do right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_U Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 No, it wasnt Marks fault they were in the situation they were in during the 4th quarter. HOWEVER, his decision making on passes 20+ yds is unacceptable. His INT to end the game, theyre was literally 5 Titans there. Inconsistentcy will never win a SB, more less make the playoffs. JC time, BOTTOM LINE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tone_dubbz Posted October 17, 2006 Author Share Posted October 17, 2006 May I play devil's advocate.How is 1. stopping a bum RB from getting 170 yards 2. covering WR all over the field 3. rushing the passer going to solve the problem of a 36 year old quarterback who has tunnel vision and is far more comfortable throwing 5 yard dump offs than challenging a defense? It won't. But our options at Qb are limited, and JC's presence is not going to change things around. Granted, JC might be Peyton Manning in his first start........but can you honestly blmae Brunell for yesterdays lost, beside the INT in the 4th quarter of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red dot in a sea of blue Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Funny how a dude that can't even spell is calling people morons... As far as your post Brunell, or Brunnell as you like to call him has no future with this team, and as long as it seems like we're going to be losing games becuse of MANY different reasons, not just QB play, we might as well get Campbell in and get some reps since in the future he is going to be "the ANSWERE!!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaadin123 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Thanks, got too excited I guess. it's OK...I feel you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundy47 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Mark Brunell is not the only problem, but he is a problem -- and a big one at that. Does that qualify as a "petty thought that appears in [my] feeble mind"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autographcollector Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 This is not the Packers and an HOF'er like Favre. This is a QB that goes three and out too much. Three and out means more time for the defense on the field. What part of offensive burning the clock don't you understand??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 My favorite all time arguement on the whole "future is now" thing is that people who say that admitt they do not care if we lose as long as JC is in. That somehow losing will be more acceptable. That at least he'll be getting reps in. The NEXT football season opener is 11 months away. Losing of any kind in any way shape or form is unacceptable. I dont care if we have Joe Montana or bozo the clown behind center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21Knock_U_Out Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 In most of the games so far , Boonell has under thrown ,over thrown and thrown right into defenders paths all season.He is too inconsistant!Most of the catches are great athletic catches from crappy passes and sort passes.If he has no future ....why keep starting him?Put in the "future".Canpbell might not do that great but hell gain the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21Knock_U_Out Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 In most of the games so far , Boonell has under thrown ,over thrown and thrown right into defenders paths all season.He is too inconsistant!Most of the catches are great athletic catches from crappy passes and SHORT passes.If he has no future ....why keep starting him?Put in the "future".Canpbell might not do that great but hell gain the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 In most of the games so far , Boonell has under thrown ,over thrown and thrown right into defenders paths all season.He is too inconsistant!Most of the catches are great athletic catches from crappy passes and sort passes.If he has no future ....why keep starting him?Put in the "future".Canpbell might not do that great but hell gain the experience. I just gave you the reasons in the post above about '"Canpbell" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morneblade Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Jason Cambpell is not the answer. I have been also supporting Mark for the last 2+ seasons. I think he is still a viable QB if he was on a better team. However I'm looking at things realisticly. Mark is 36 years old, and even if you project him playing well at 39 (which is well, a real stretch) he is not a long term option. I dont think he has played horrid (like many people here do, I think the line has a huge part to do with it) but he hasnt played exceptionally well either, and I dont think anyone will disagree with that. We also have a young #1 pick that we gave up quite a bit to get. This season, while not mathematically over, is for all intents an purposes, done. We lost to a winless team, with a rookie QB and have just gone 2-4 over the easiest part of our schedual. We will get blown out next week, and go to the bye at 2-5. So, we'll have to basically win out to have a decent chance for the playoffs, which aint gonna happen, period. So, sad as it may seem to say, after the bye is a excellent time to see if Jason can play at this level. He's had the same time to learn the O as Brunell (if not the reps) so lets see what he can do. Yeah, he is going ot make some mistakes, but right now is a good time, since we dont really have anything to loose. We'er not going to the playoffs, so let him get some life reps in and basically get him ready for next year. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MumboSauce Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Travis Henry is hardly a bum RB. but yeah the team is playing poorly in pretty much all phases and facets of the game right now. It's team wide..the coaching, players..just not good right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Putting Campbell on the field makes the defense have to defend the entire field. That is something that is not happening right now. Defenses are keying on Portis and jumping Moss and Cooley on the short routes. After one or two nice runs each week the offense gets bogged down because the defense eventually feels comfortable bringing 8 or 9 men up into the box. If the Chargers can protect Philip Rivers and the Steelers could protect Roethlisberger as a rookie the Redskins can scheme to put Campbell in position to make some plays for us on the field. The fact that we would limit the plays for Campbell to take the pressure off is really a non-starter as we are doing the very same thing for Brunell because of his inability to throw the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat~man Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Last I checked......JC was listed as a QB. So how is benching Mark for Jason to going to help us with: A.) stopping bumb RBs from gaining 170+ yards? B.) cover oppossing WR's all over the field? C.) pass rush the QB? It just makes me sick that people are still calling for Mark's head after this lose, becasue it was painfully obvious he's not he problem. It's aggravating to hear some of you fan's constantly rip Brunnell, I mean did you morons even watch the game? Or do you just run with what ever petty thought that appears in your feeble mind? well if we are gonna lose anyway then we should at least lose with the " qb of the future" that way at least SOMETHING productive comes from this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21Knock_U_Out Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 I just gave you the reasons in the post above about '"Campbell"D i c kSo lets keep Boonell in there maybe heel do good or maybe he wont?Take a chance?So we waste picks on Campbell .Even if the season is a bust he will start next year ,so put him in now.Save our self the questions on why we wasted a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Gibbs II Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 In most of the games so far , Boonell has under thrown ,over thrown and thrown right into defenders paths all season.He is too inconsistant!Most of the catches are great athletic catches from crappy passes and sort passes.If he has no future ....why keep starting him?Put in the "future".Canpbell might not do that great but hell gain the experience. Did "boonell" allow 190 yards rushing? Did "boonell" allow vince young time to complete a pass? Did "boonell" allow for an easy 4th and 1 completion in our territory? Did "boonell" miss all those tackles? Did "boonell" call for only 16 rushing plays? Did "boonell" force no turnovers? Did "boonell" make crappy punts? I dont think he did any of those things, and those were the main reasons for our loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smashmowf Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Morons?...feeble minds?....Yeeeah..really intelligent way to get across your point of view.. :doh: ...But as far as the rest of the post...In my opinion if we could consistently substain drives and chew up clock, yeah it would help the defense...and maybe other teams would not be able to "run" themselves back into the game....if we could actually scare people with our deep ball....CP would be a lot more effective. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red dot in a sea of blue Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 My favorite all time arguement on the whole "future is now" thing is that people who say that admitt they do not care if we lose as long as JC is in. That somehow losing will be more acceptable. That at least he'll be getting reps in. The NEXT football season opener is 11 months away. Losing of any kind in any way shape or form is unacceptable. I dont care if we have Joe Montana or bozo the clown behind center. How any games had Brunell thrown for over 200 yards this season so far? 2 that's 200 yards, not 300. That means in 4 games this year he has thrown for 100 something yards, including 180 yesterday. Tiki Barber RUSHED for more yards then Brunell threw for yesterday. So considering we're losing games anyways, and not barely against really good teams, badly against teams we should be destroying, especially at home, why stick with a guy who can't get it done and is costing us more games then he's winning us, when we could have that inconsistancy with Campbell, but with the hope of better tomorrows? I'd rather look to 11 months from now with some hope then go through this again next year with a first year starter, unless you think Brunell has ANOTHER season in him.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskin81 Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 D i c kSo lets keep Boonell in there maybe heel do good or maybe he wont?Take a chance?So we waste picks on Campbell .Even if the season is a bust he will start next year ,so put him in now.Save our self the questions on why we wasted a pick. Well my names Chris for starters little one, and he hurt his toe not his heel. Now maybe he'll be benched in due time when the seasons officially over and then we'll see all about the "FUTURE" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Star Skin Fan Posted October 17, 2006 Share Posted October 17, 2006 Yes, the defense looks terrible right now. And they played their worst game of the season Sunday. Even with that performance, our offense had the ball in the fourth quarter in a tie game with the momentum. What happened then? A couple of three and outs and a game ending one play interception against a prevent defense. That is on Brunell's shoulders. Terrible inaccurate throws in crunch time. The defense is severely lacking right now. We should still be able to score enough points to win a game like the one Sunday with all the talent this offense has. Yes, this team has numerous problems- But the glaring #1 problem is MARK BRUNELL. At this point at 2-4 anyone who thinks this team is going anywhere with #8 at the helm is flat out mistaken. We need Campbell to play NOW. We need to know what he can do and/or how he progresses with the first team in meaningful games week after week after week. 3 or 4 starts at the end of the season is not good enough to determine what this guy has. And playing Campbell is not "throwing away the season". Continuing the play Brunell is throwing away the season. Brunell is not going to magically get better. This is as "good" as it gets with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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