3CardMonte Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 By Pat Kirwan NFL.com Senior Analyst link Santana Moss, is under 5-10 and close to 180 pounds, but he leads the NFL in receiving yards, which is impressive, but not the most impressive accomplishment he has to date. Moss has 12 receptions of 20 yards or more. NFL people who study statistics pay very close attention to explosive plays and understand how much of a correlation there is between winning and explosive plays. Anyone who did their homework on Moss would know that this guy is one of the best in the business when it comes to receptions over 20 yards. Moss has more receptions over 20 yards than the Houston Texans and Buffalo Bills combined! Check out how Moss stacks up against the best in the business over the past three seasons (2003-05) in receptions to plus-20-yard ratio. Santana Moss 1 every 3.7 receptions Randy Moss 1 every 3.8 receptions Terrell Owens 1 every 4.6 receptions Torry Holt 1 every 5.7 receptions Marvin Harrison 1 every 6.6 receptions The Redskins were looking for a big-play receiver when they traded for Moss, and the little man is delivering in a big way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n|n Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Santana Moss 1 every 3.7 receptions Randy Moss 1 every 3.8 receptions Terrell Owens 1 every 4.6 receptions Torry Holt 1 every 5.7 receptions Marvin Harrison 1 every 6.6 receptions As interesting as that is my 2nd thought on this list was: No ring No ring No ring One ring No ring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 As interesting as that is my 2nd thought on this list was:No ring No ring No ring One ring No ring Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing the spinner of all spinners.... :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: My third thought was: Your second thought is pointless! HTTR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita35 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing the spinner of all spinners.... :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: My third thought was: Your second thought is pointless! HTTR! Funny I was thinking the same thing. What is the point to his statement? There are losers born every minute. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 As interesting as that is my 2nd thought on this list was:No ring No ring No ring One ring No ring ok...are you a Cowboys fan? Sure sounds like it. Football is a TEAM game. You cannot win with one great player. Of course any REAL football fan would know this. :dallasuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n|n Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Way to take a comment way too seriously. Just being devils advocate...not bashing our MVP or any other receiver in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donita35 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Way to take a comment way too seriously. Just being devils advocate...not bashing our MVP or any other receiver in this thread. No worries dude. I was just messing with you. But you have to admit that is a comment a Cowboy fan would make because there are no Cowboys in the top five. T.O. doesn't count because he has not played one down with the 'Boys. That stat is from his other two teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IM A REDSKIN FAN Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I still think its Randy Moss...but what the hell do I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n|n Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 I can see the dalass line of thought for sure. It is just funny to me how some stats can be useful and others just hype. He could have had 50.6 plays per 20 yard catch but still broke dallass' back and became an instant Ring of Fame canidate to all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Charley Taylor never won a Super Bowl either, but I wouldn't then rate him behind Alvin Garrett as a wide receiver :laugh: The NFL is a TEAM game. It is not the NBA where 1 or 2 players can propel you to a championship on their abilities. You need 40 plus guys all focused and contributing for a team to win the Super Bowl. To hold it against any players' career to have not won a Super Bowl to me is ridiculous UNLESS he consistently was on championship caliber teams and HIS performance was one of the major reasons that team did not win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing the spinner of all spinners.... :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: My third thought was: Your second thought is pointless! HTTR! :laugh: seriously though, the stats are only stating big play recievers, not how dominating they are. How come steve smith isn't on that list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isle-hawg Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 As interesting as that is my 2nd thought on this list was:No ring No ring No ring One ring No ring My thought on it was that with all the talent and additions to the coaching staff to go along with those stats Santana will have a ring at the end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 ]']How come steve smith isn't on that list? because he hasnt done it long enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 My thought on it was that with all the talent and additions to the coaching staff to go along with those stats Santana will have a ring at the end of this year. I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanTaylor Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Did anyone see Santana burn Shawn Springs to the point where he fell down yesterday in practice?.... Thats why he is a big play WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelarkascend1ng Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 just a reminder, that's an old article. at that point, santana moss was leading the receiving yards for the year, but steve smith bested him by the end of the season by a hundred yards or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 just a reminder, that's an old article. at that point, santana moss was leading the receiving yards for the year, but steve smith bested him by the end of the season by a hundred yards or so. I'm surprised you're the first one to have noticed this. Talk about putting spin on a topic LM12thM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 As interesting as that is my 2nd thought on this list was:No ring No ring No ring One ring No ring Honest to God, the next person who cites a players' lack of rings in any sport as a sign of their lack of ability should be sent to prison. A bad prison. Like Oz. Message to the world: Peyton Manning is a better QB than Trent Dilfer or Brad Johnson. Alex Rodriquez is a better player than Derek Jeter. Allen Iverson is better than Manu Ginobli. Let's stop this nonsense. Rings mean you got drafted and/or signed with a very good team. That's all. PS I think Steve Smith is the best big play receiver in football. Santana Moss is definitely in the conversation though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Charley Taylor never won a Super Bowl either, but I wouldn't then rate him behind Alvin Garrett as a wide receiver :laugh: The NFL is a TEAM game. It is not the NBA where 1 or 2 players can propel you to a championship on their abilities. You need 40 plus guys all focused and contributing for a team to win the Super Bowl. To hold it against any players' career to have not won a Super Bowl to me is ridiculous UNLESS he consistently was on championship caliber teams and HIS performance was one of the major reasons that team did not win Two of the guys on that list, have serious character issues (which is even more important in my book) The one guy who does have a ring played in the same system (and was coached by) Al Saunders is bringing to DC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califan007 The Constipated Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 just a reminder, that's an old article. at that point, santana moss was leading the receiving yards for the year, but steve smith bested him by the end of the season by a hundred yards or so. Yeah, it's from October of last year...lol...not exactly sure why it's thread material 10 months later, especially when the stats given in the article are irrelevant and out of date now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 because he hasnt done it long enough. And Moss has? He doubled his career total in 40+ yard plays last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Steve Smith had 80 more yards but also 19 more catches Moss' YPC was 2.5 yards higher 17.7 YPC to 15.2 YPC than Smith, He made 2 more 20+ yard plays and 3 more 40+ yard plays than Smith as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cdowwe Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Big things for Santana coming up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trez Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 Santana Moss is pretty sweet. Lets hope he can stay healthy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKINZ33 Posted August 3, 2006 Share Posted August 3, 2006 S. Moss will be the big play threat for several yrs IMO and when Campbell is ready they should be a good 1-2 combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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