skins84 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 I really think we should try to trade up to get into the top of the 4th round... -before you say "no way, we need our picks next year" here's why I think this... There is still a good amount of quality players left in this draft, most of whom will be gone by the end of the fourth round, and this could be our chance to get a steal in a later round. The way I see it, it can't be too hard to get a 4th round pick, so why not try to get one of these guys who somehow slipped to the second day of the draft. All of these guys could have easily been first day picks. Gabe Watson DT Michigan Darnell Bing S USC Ko Simpson DB South Carolina Rodrique Wright DT Texas Elvis Dumervil DE Louisville Leon Washington RB Florida State Dwayne Slay SS Texas Tech Pat Watkins FS Florida State Eric Henderson DE Georgia Tech Orien Harris Dt Miami Anwar Phillips CB Penn State Marcus Vick QB Viginia Tech (just kiddin) :logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 That's a pretty solid list of players, although I wouldn't really put much thought into trading up for Slay, Watkins, Dumervil, Washington, or Henderson. Bing, Wright, Harris, Watson and Simpson, though, could all be contributors on our team. I'd really like to get one of those DTs to fit in there with Cornelius and Big Joe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeseantaylor2k6 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Its hard to imagine the skins being able to trade up and get a pick in the 4th round, especially considering the team doesnt have any disgruntled players on the block to offer in a package. The only thing I think the skins could do would be to trade next years first rounder to someone crappy for their second and maybe 4th next year and an early 4th rounder this year. Not to say that I would like having to wait 6 hours to see the first redskin picked in next years draft, but it is always an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 That's a pretty solid list of players, although I wouldn't really put much thought into trading up for Slay, Watkins, Dumervil, Washington, or Henderson.Bing, Wright, Harris, Watson and Simpson, though, could all be contributors on our team. I'd really like to get one of those DTs to fit in there with Cornelius and Big Joe... I agree about DT. We definitely need some depth there. I have concerns about Griff and Big Joe making it through the entire season without injury. But I'd rank our needs as 1) CB, 2) DT and 3) OL. Hail!:logo: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins84 Posted April 30, 2006 Author Share Posted April 30, 2006 There's definatley a good group of talent left in the draft, but they wont be there for long. That's why we need to try to get in that mid 4th round range at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 We need a cornerback. Any of those left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDefense Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 That's a pretty solid list of players, although I wouldn't really put much thought into trading up for Slay, Watkins, Dumervil, Washington, or Henderson.Bing, Wright, Harris, Watson and Simpson, though, could all be contributors on our team. I'd really like to get one of those DTs to fit in there with Cornelius and Big Joe... One of those DT's thrown into our mix would help out alot, but there is no need to trade up. Those guys fell for a reason, a reason we may never know but no need to get antsy now, just wait and pick when its your turn. We have 5 picks left and we can get maybe 1 or 2 of those late round gems. We will also sign 11 rookie FA's afterwards and maybe find 1 there as well. In the 5th Best avalible defensive lineman 2 6ths and 2 7ths BPA on there board reguardless of position, maybe a kicker and punter in the 7th just for some competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dent19 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 we have 2 5th rnd picks to use to get Rodrique Wright DT Texas ids co-sign that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadkill Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 I agree about DT. We definitely need some depth there. I have concerns about Griff and Big Joe making it through the entire season without injury.But I'd rank our needs as 1) CB, 2) DT and 3) OL. Hail!:logo: Don't forget about nabbing either a punter or kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H-O-G Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 We need a cornerback. Any of those left? Nope. 7 DB's were taken in the first round alone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins84 Posted April 30, 2006 Author Share Posted April 30, 2006 Nope. 7 DB's were taken in the first round alone.. Anwar Phillips CB Penn State, some mock drafts had us taking him in the second round... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XSean21TaylorX Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 alan zeimaitis!!!! penn state also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 I think Bama DE Mark Anderson is going to pull a Jared Allen and become a 4th round/8 sack rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 We need a cornerback. Any of those left? A lot of them, I probably like Dee Webb the best, and we could possibly get him in the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandies Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 CB's left CB 1. Pat Griffen 2. Demetrice Webb 3. Alan Zematis 4. Demario Minter 5. Marcus Hudson 6. Don Byrum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncevensen Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 i too would love to trade into the fourth round but it isnt worth it, on a percentage of premium points, trading into the fourth round is the most expensive trades in the draft. Everyone is trying to get a fourth "first day quality" player, and they will overpay. And every team is trying to get that extra first day player. So however ante's up the most gets to move up. And because a fourth round pick is worth b/w 112 and 44 points, and it would be necessary to include a three next year just to get up to the top of the fourth round because a three next year would be valued as a middle fourth rounder this year. In order to move up from 5th to 1st in the fourth round requires at a minimuim the last pick in the fifth round, but because most teams dont have such a high fourth and such a low fifth, the fifth rounder is probably high, their is a huge premium on a high fourth round pick in the perspective of the premium a team will pay for one. In fact, its nearly impossible to trade up in the fourth round w/o overpaying based on the pick value chart. And when u say that we have 2 or three 5th rounders and we could trade those, take into account that the first three picks in the fifth round alone do not add up to the first pick in the fourth round, are three fifth rounders, assuming one is high, one medium, one low, it adds up to only a low fourth round pick. Low round picks are a gamble, wouldnt we rather take three rolls of the dice instead of one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustangSteve Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 I really think we should post the drafts where we were told to http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154097 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 No more picks next year if we trade into the 4th give up a 5th 6th and 7th :whoknows: That would leave us with a 4th, 6th and 7th tommorow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins84 Posted April 30, 2006 Author Share Posted April 30, 2006 I really think we should post the drafts where we were told to http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154097 :laugh: thread police, everybody run... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurd Cudins Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Right now, we are in a position to trade to get our pick we gave up to the Broncos for Campbell. By sending them our 5th(153) and 6th(173), we could get the Broncos 4th(119). The points are 30.2 + 22.2=(52.4)=(56) There is always the possibility that we will package the same two picks for a lower fourth rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhutanibeast Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 i would love to see ko simpson, darnell bing, rodrique wright or gabe watson. WE should give up our entire draft this year for maybe one or two of those players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Just wait it out until 153, we will get a good value pick there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 There are definitely some good players still left on the board in the 4th round. We could trade a 2007 3rd round pick and get a 4th round pick this year. But I hope we hang onto our 2007 1st round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 :laugh: thread police, everybody run... :laugh: Damn. I going to be swept up in the drag net with you other turkeys. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeSellers45 Posted April 30, 2006 Share Posted April 30, 2006 Maybe we should try and trade Betts and a 5th this year for a 4th rounder. Would that trade go through with any team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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