CPstretch Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 this was like 6 hours ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyholetsgogrant Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 geez everyone is piliing on.... -grant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 its just a matter of time until a mod gets to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTotalPackage Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 i beg to defer. other threads speculate on HOW the redskins CAN move up. this thread actually says that it looks like they WILL move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inmate running the asylum Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152740&highlight=draft+tradeI guess miss cleo cant see into the past to your credit your remarks were good in your post You're right. Miss Cleo can only read the future. :laugh: The mods must still be hiding their easter eggs. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy2677 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Kelly Jennings...sweet The man is drawing comparisons to Phillip Buchanon, Texans fans hate him... not to mention Kelly Jennings cant tackle well at all. The only people that really make me wanna get them are Roger McIntosh/OLB/Miami Fl. , DeMeco Ryans/OLB/Alabama , Antonio Cromartie/CB/Florida State, and Ashton Youbouty/CB/Ohio State. Im really hoping we get Cornerback Antonio Cromartie from Florida State though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTotalPackage Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 whoops. guess this article has already been posted. but why not merge instead of delete? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 if he is being compared to buchanon, that is not so good. if buchanon was half decent, the raiders wouldnt have traded him to the texans for some picks. plus, oaklands secondary blew ass this year so if they traded him, they must have really not liked him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovellj Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 You are talking about 2 different things...-We interviewed V. Davis at the combine, which everyone does. -Bringing players in for a personal workout is something completely different. Ah...good point. Don't I look like quite the fool? :doh: Either way, I tend to agree with the point that we're unlikely to move up too far. Just my opinion though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LD0506 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Doesn't it seem like the FO looks at the draft the same way they look at contracts, ie. use next year as collateral for this season. So we trade next year's first (it won't be a high one) to move up and grab a good player now, the same way we backload contracts now and convert them later to our advantage. I have to agree with Art on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandies Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 With free agency, trading future draft picks causes very little jeopardy. If we trade our 1st, 2nd and 3rd rounder next year, we can use that money to sign a quality free agent. If there is going to be no cap limit here, I support trading all our first round picks into the next millenium for top draft choices the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyleft Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Maybe the want to talk to some of these kids because somebody always slips.The smartest thing the Skins could do now is stand pat, take the best LB available at #53, and don't touch our 1st or 2nd rounder for 07. I THINK THAT IS A GREAT STRATEGY, I DON'T THINK THE REDSKIN ORGINIZATION IS WILLING TO LOOSE A 1ST AND 2ND ROUNDER AGAIN. LET'S KEEP WHAT WHE HAVE AND PLAY HARD NOSE FOOTBALL. DON'T FORGET IF YOUR IN THE NFL YOU CAN PLAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE HEART AND DETERMINATION.T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmcthe2nd Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 We should definitely go after cromatie. After Springs and Rogers, there is a huge dropoff. We have an excess amount of picks in the last two rounds. Im sure we can use a couple of them to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adarsh1 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Bleh.The absolute smartest thing the Skins could do now is get as many TOP prospects as possible NOW. Trade next year's first and second for a first this year. Do whatever you can to maximize the youth and talent now. The team has few obvious areas of need. Get what you can as quickly as you can to let them grow. A year of growth and learning in the system for another first rounder this year or second rounder is more valuable than a first next year. I agree. Also, I think this will be Brunell's last year as starting quarterback and they need to get some polished prospects who can play right now and help the team now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhutanibeast Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 yea i would actually be pretty pissed if the redskins gave away next years picks. We already dont have a 4th rounder next year, and i cant remember the last time the redskins actually had a full draft. Hopefully if they do move up, they get rid of players and this years late round picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I love the idea, we have a bit of cap space to move with so why not trade up into the later first or early second and snag Cromartie and still keep the #53 pick and take a LB, either Howard or McIntosh. We still have cuts coming in June so that will free up a little more cap space so we can possibly pick up Donnie Edwards as a solid veteran LB and can Washington, Marshall and Edwards can groom McCune and the new LB and Springs can groom Cromartie and imagine having a solid rotation of SIX LB's and FOUR CB's our defense would be amazing with a secondary and a LB corps like that! The good part of trading next years first is the talent projected in next years draft is not at any position that we need. So having no first will not hurt because we can just draft specifically for depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 cromartie, #53, and edwards will not all happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeenzfan Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 We should definitely go after cromatie. After Springs and Rogers, there is a huge dropoff. We have an excess amount of picks in the last two rounds. Im sure we can use a couple of them to move up. What excess picks? 6th and 7th round picks are not enough to move up in the 2nd round. If we decide to move up we will have to give up next years picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhutanibeast Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I love the idea, we have a bit of cap space to move with so why not trade up into the later first or early second and snag Cromartie and still keep the #53 pick and take a LB, either Howard or McIntosh. We still have cuts coming in June so that will free up a little more cap space so we can possibly pick up Donnie Edwards as a solid veteran LB and can Washington, Marshall and Edwards can groom McCune and the new LB and Springs can groom Cromartie and imagine having a solid rotation of SIX LB's and FOUR CB's our defense would be amazing with a secondary and a LB corps like that!The good part of trading next years first is the talent projected in next years draft is not at any position that we need. So having no first will not hurt because we can just draft specifically for depth. what is the position that next years talent is projected at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNeverDie Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Hell, trade away next years pick, trade to get that pick back next year by trading the next year after that...it's a neverending cycle that really doesn't even matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins4481 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I'm so glad the Skins are willing to make the moves to succeed. Thank god I'm not an Eagles fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Let's trade this year's 2nd, next year's 1st and 2nd, with the Arizona Cardinals to move into the #10 spot and take A.J. Hawk. Linebackers take less time to learn the NFL than other skill positions, and he could make a real impact right away. I agree with Art, we have almost every position set. I know that we could move up and instead take two 'pretty good' players. But I'd rather get one stud at LB and hope for a breakthrough player at CB and DT in the later rounds of this year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted April 17, 2006 Author Share Posted April 17, 2006 I think that the best option would be to move up and try and keep our 2nd round pick at 53 as well. Thay may be tougher to do but it would be better. I feel as though there will be top players taken all the way through the second round as this draft is loaded. The addition of a cromartie and dqwell Jackson would add even more young talent to an already loaded team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPstretch Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 i hope we dont end up with one of those small school CBs...i'd be pretty disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hogskin1 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Bleh.The absolute smartest thing the Skins could do now is get as many TOP prospects as possible NOW. Trade next year's first and second for a first this year. Do whatever you can to maximize the youth and talent now. The team has few obvious areas of need. Get what you can as quickly as you can to let them grow. A year of growth and learning in the system for another first rounder this year or second rounder is more valuable than a first next year. GREAT post, Art. This is also the approach that led to 4 SB appearances in Gibbs' first go-round here. Futures' trading has been regularly dissed in the major media, but works extremely well when it is done right. Bethard did it right, and Gibbs knows how to do it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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