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Is it safe to assume that O-Line depth is no longer a need


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new to the boards and would like to add a little disclaimer: I'm from S Dak. originally and now down in Florida, so I don't always get the most accurate or up to date information outside of redskins.com and washingtonpost.com (espn and nfl are givens). That being said...

I liked what I saw from Clemons in his limited role the last couple years (I had Sunday ticket, so I at least got to see more than 2 skins games a year for the first time since they were last a consistent playoff team). Personally, I'd like to see Clemons get first shot at starting role, and from what I've read, it sounds like he'll get his chance. Our run defense was a little suspect at times last year, and Clemons strikes me as more of a pass rusher - at least that seems to be what his primary role was last year. Holdman was serviceable at best... I guess what I'm trying to say is that I think we need to sign a quality CB now and we can draft a LB with our 2nd round pick. OL depth can never hurt either. You never know when one is going to go down with a blown achilles or a broken leg. I don't know really anything about the two we signed today (didn't even hear about it till I read this thread), so I can't say one way or the other if I'm comfortable with them.

I though Jimoh did ok as a fill-in, but I don't know if I'd feel good about him being our #3. What's the latest on Patterson's standing on the depth chart? I heard he may also be in the running...or at least get a chance to compete.

finally, is there a radio station up there in the DC area that talks skins a lot that one can listen to on the internet? I get the clips and sound bytes that redskins.com puts up, but that's about it.

--sorry for being so wordy ;)

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CB now. There are still some good CB's available.

Dyson, Fletcher (young and would be good for us.)

Law, Woodson (old, would want too much to play the #3 CB)

We address a LB in the draft. This draft class has some strong LB's in it. And address the o-line depth, safety depth, etc. through the draft as well.

I agree 100%, CB is our greatest need. Grab Fletcher and then pick up the rest in the Draft.

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We were still pretty thin at OL depth during the season. Ray Brown retired and Cory Raymer was released. Really, these two guys we signed are just replacing them so there is still a need for depth on the line.

Most likely, one or both of these guys will be released before our 53-man roster is set.

i dont think that they would cut pucillo since he signed a 4year deal. walters may be cut though along with molinaro and ndukwe. right now i dont see any locks on the line other than pucillo. we need to sign more players.

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Ok so lets sign a friggin LB...

I agree. I would also advocate drafting a CB and not a OLB.

Re: your signature...I just read a scouting report on Havner and it did not leave me feeling very confident. Here are some highlights:

Strengths:

Has excellent size and a big, solid frame...Good timed speed...Very productive and is always around the ball...Makes plays sideline-to-sideline...Smart with great instincts...Has a great motor and is very tough...Does a good job of sifting through traffic...Versatile and can play multipe positions...Excellent in coverage and has a knack for making the interception...Does a solid job against the run.

Weaknesses:

Has some durability questions and has dealt with knee and shoulder injuries...Is not a great natural athlete and looks a bit stiff...Does not always play up to his computer numbers...Is not a sure tackler...Really needs to hit the weights and get stronger...Has not been as physical as you'd like to see due to injuries...Might not really have the overall mentality you look for in a guy to play in the middle.

Notes:

Could potentially play any of the three linebackers spots at the next level...The type who does everything well but doesn't stand out in any one area...At the very least he should be a valuable backup and special teams guy and probably more.

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Is it safe to assume that the need of O-Line depth has been filled with the signing of Walters and Pucillo. If that's the case that should leae just 2 needs besides overall depth.

As it stands now.

LT: Samuels, Molinaro

LG Dockery, Pucillo

C: Rabach, Walters

RG:Thomas, Pucillo

RT: Jansen, Walters

I think we're good on dpth now.

That would leave WLB and 3rd Corner.

Is that right?

who is Walters? I missed this signing....anyone know of the link and what this guys first name is? thank you

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Is it safe to assume that the need of O-Line depth has been filled with the signing of Walters and Pucillo. If that's the case that should leae just 2 needs besides overall depth.

As it stands now.

LT: Samuels, Molinaro

LG Dockery, Pucillo

C: Rabach, Walters

RG:Thomas, Pucillo

RT: Jansen, Walters

I think we're good on dpth now.

That would leave WLB and 3rd Corner.

we also have alston and ndukwe from last years practice squad. i think we are okay. lots of young players. a very good sign

Is that right?

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I think we should get a LB now in the FA and get our 3rd CB in the draft with the 2nd round pick.

i would prefer that we sign one corner and one linebacker inthe next week or 2.. someone like wright or fletcher... and a linebacker like short or keth adams..

that would leave us with no holes and be able to tak ethe best player available on draft day at one of several positions.

the thing is that this is a very deep draft at corner/tight end/def lineman.

we could get someone who slipped out of the first round and build for the future

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I think CB is more pressing to be honest.

We have LBs on the roster that COULD fill Arrington's void. I don't know that we have anyone on the roster to be our nickelback right now.

you really can never have too many quality corners... plus, it is one position the skins seldom select a bust inthe early rounds. look at our success there as opposed to selecting receivers. no comparison when you look at rogers/bailey/smoot versus westbrook/jacobs/gardner

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You never really have enough depth at oline. While there will be 8 olinemen plus Albright on our final squad (plus a couple kept around for emergency), we'll have about 17-18 in TC (not including Albright). I'd say positions 1-5 are virtual locks and probably the three you mentioned have the inside track to backup, but, currently, we have 12 on the roster (including the new signs, no Albright). So if none are cut before TC, we'll pick up another 5 or 6 olinemen.

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I think CB is more pressing to be honest.

We have LBs on the roster that COULD fill Arrington's void. I don't know that we have anyone on the roster to be our nickelback right now.

Agree and think this CB would be a nice addition:

Roderick Hood | CB Complete player profile

Full Name: Roderick Hood

Born: October 3, 1981

Columbus, GA

Height: 5-11

Weight: 196 lbs. Age: 24

Pos: CB

Experience: 3 years

College: Auburn

Insider Analysis

Grade 69

Expert's Take Hood has a good combination of athletic ability and speed. He has good overall cover skills and is very smooth in all his movements. He has good feet, is fluid in his hips and can turn and run with most receivers in the league. He has good change-of-direction skills. He does not have a lot of wasted motion, nor does he lose speed in transition, and he has a good burst to the ball. He has the closing speed to make up for being out of position or making mistakes. He has good man-to-man cover skills, and he does a great job of planting and driving to the ball. He did an excellent job in press coverage. He was in the receiver's hip pocket and did a great job of mirroring his route. He is not a real physical player, but he is very competitive. He will go after the ball and will challenge the receiver. He does a good job in run support, is not afraid to mix it up and is a decent open-field tackler. He will wrap up on contact, but he is not going to punish receivers or running backs. He is an excellent special teams player. He does a super job on cover teams and as a kickoff return specialist. Overall, Hood does not have a lot of weaknesses. He is young and should only get better with more playing time.

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I agree with those was said that our O-line is not yet complete, I feel that adding some youth to the group should be a priority. I must say that it is awfully nice to be able to sit back and wait to see what changes we make without having to worry about our staff making a huge blunder, like the old gaurd used to do. This coaching staff in top notch, :notworthy very comforting indeed. I also feel that the CB position is more of a need right now, I think we have less flexibility there than at LB.

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That is not safe to assume at all. I think we need at least one seasoned veteran on this team to serve as QUALITY depth. I don't mean a career backup, but a true veteran starting lineman on the twilight of his career that can be inserted effectively in spot duty without missing a beat.

Lest some of you forget the lesson of 2000, the one thing that truly derailed that season was injuries to the O-line. A strength in '99 became a glaring weakness that made our passing and running game completely anemic. This could happen again in '06 if we care not careful. We saw what an impact the loss of just one lineman had on our team towards the end of last season. What we need is an Andy Heck/Keith Sims/Ray Brown type of player who can come here and effectively add a second starter for a reasonable price. Career backups will do what Jay Leeuwenberg and Wilbert Brown (the turnstyle) did for us... add warm bodies that will be abused by the league's better defenses (see: NFC East).

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As I've been advocating for quite some time now, we need to draft a corner in the 2nd round. LB may already be on the roster. We do have Clemmons and McCune. We may still be able to pick someone up in FA, but I'm not going to throw things against the wall if we don't. Thing here is that we have no depth at the CB position. If Springs goes down, who's going to play in his place? Not to mention that Springs is moving towards the end of his career. With the draft being deep at CB, why not groom some young talent to play opposite Rogers for the years-to-come?

I'm glad everyone ignored the guy earlier in this thread who was talking about DT. With Wynn moving inside, Salavea, Griffin, Killings, Clemons.... I think its safe to say we should be worrying about DBs and LBs

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Remember Walt Harris getting burned and missing tackles? I sure do. Also, Rogers got hurt and didn't play all 16 games. Springs also got hurt and missed time as well. You can't assume both will be 100% and play all 16 games. They haven't proven it yet.

For LB, we have McCune, and Clemons will get his shot. Sure, we could draft one, just not with our 2nd round pick. Plus, with Andre Carter now wreaking havoc, the LB's need a little less help.

Therefore, CB is a high priority, unless you really think Ade Jimoh can step up and play as the #2 CB if Rogers or Springs misses a game or two. What if both miss the same game? Jimoh is now covering T.O., and who is covering Terry Glenn??? Jimoh is covering Plaxico, who is covering Toomer?

Shutdown corners are extremely hard to find. And we won't get one in the 2nd round, but we sure can get a solid CB to fill the nickel role. Not sure you can say the same if we take a CB in the 4th round, and go LB with the 2nd round pick.

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I think its 8+Albright, unless you think we should go light at WR again.

The Red Schappa, I guess I would count him as an o-linemen...? I just think the Ndukwe kid could have some talent. But I guess he will be PS again unless someone goes down and lets hope that doesnt happen.

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