Portis the Tortoise Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Still have a couple more days. No one wants this to happen. The deal will get done. Anyone agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDFan5 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Still have a couple more days. No one wants this to happen. The deal will get done. Anyone agree? No couple days left tommorrow at 4 o'clock is the deadline 20 hours to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINSQ Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 i dont think so man that upshaw is a real *****clown he not going to budge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Jumbo Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Still have a couple more days. No one wants this to happen. The deal will get done. Anyone agree? Hasn't this topic already been discussed somewhere? (I'm too lazy to look) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RumpofSteelSKIN Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I believe a deal will absolutely get dne, maybe with a delay, but there is no way they will allow so many teams to let go of so many players and flood so many players into free agency. Some teams could be crippled for years because of this thing. Stalemate will not happen. They will get a deal. Not worried one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 i dont think so man that upshaw is a real *****clown he not going to budge. He's a vicious businessman, but he's not a bad person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknsrbck26 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I hope it gets done and i'm praying but it doesn't look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I thought there was one last discussion to be held on Thursday and that discussion was only between the Owners and isn't going to actually affect the CBA discussions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Still have a couple more days. No one wants this to happen. The deal will get done. Anyone agree? welll.... if you look at the NHL they all went down with the ship. few people believed a season and a half would be lost. so anything is possible. they are arguing over 4% (56 % vs 60%) but that is not the real sticking point. i believe it is the disparity between what the "weathy" and "poor" owners see as personal income. now that may be something worth fighting for. i just do not see the snyders, krafts and jones rolling over so that "poor" owners like the rooneys and browns get the benefit of their financial success. they could go to the mattresses for a long time over this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKN5 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I think i saw today that an announcement would be made tomorrow afternoon that gives all of the details??? I think it will happen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sknsrbck26 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 3.8% i can't believe that all this is over 3.8%!!!!!! Holy crap make it 58% and call it even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 He's a vicious businessman, but he's not a bad person. not much difference between him and donald fehr... they get paid for being azz-clowns... that is their job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jethrodsp Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I hope it happens, but Im not holding my breath. Who knows what's going on behind the scenes? From what Im reading, the owners cant even agree with themselves, much less the NFLPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 3.8% i can't believe that all this is over 3.8%!!!!!! Holy crap make it 58% and call it even. again, it is not that percent (although you are talking about millions and millions of dollars with each percent) it is the divergence of owners opinions about what is individual and what is common moneys.. that is huge to guys like snyder and jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36SKINS56 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 i dont think so man that upshaw is a real *****clown he not going to budge. Isnt UPSHAW on our side? He wants a higher salary cap, and even went as far to say that Snyder was one of the top three owners in the league. I could be wrong here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 It's time to face reality....things are about to get ugly in a real big way. Enjoy this coming year because it could be the last one we see for a while. I have a bad feeling that the NFL is about to become like Baseball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 I hope a deal gets done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunPortisRun Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 welll.... if you look at the NHL they all went down with the ship. few people believed a season and a half would be lost. so anything is possible.they are arguing over 4% (56 % vs 60%) but that is not the real sticking point. i believe it is the disparity between what the "weathy" and "poor" owners see as personal income. now that may be something worth fighting for. i just do not see the snyders, krafts and jones rolling over so that "poor" owners like the rooneys and browns get the benefit of their financial success. they could go to the mattresses for a long time over this I agree with this post 100%. Even if I was a fan of a lower revenue team, I would still think "poor" owners trying to use "weathy" owners as personal income is dead wrong. keep in mind, poor owners in this case are still making millions upon millions bucks a year. Then they want weathier teams to make up some the difference so everyone can be on the same level? Whatever. Synder and others would be fools to agree to this. Don't penalize teams for success...this is totally unAmerican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 The problem here, as best as I have been able to figure, is upshaw wants to force the league to come to a conclusion on its owners revenue sharing. This is not the NFLPAs business, and the CBA extension could be possible, but Upshaw wont let it happen till this gets dealt with. Though a small part probobly involves the 4% extra upshaw wants. The league has compromised to the tune of about 10% of revenue, it is willing to give to players. Upshaw? Comprimised 0%. It wasnt a negotiation, it was Upshaw telling everyone it would all happen exactly his way. When you have one side making all the demands and not even willing to budge an inch, hes overreaching. The old CBA was obviously good enough for so long, this CBA would be even BETTER for the players, yet Upshaw wont take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Bullocks Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 3.8% i can't believe that all this is over 3.8%!!!!!! Holy crap make it 58% and call it even. 1% = about 1 Billion dollars over the whole deal. 3.8 billion dollars, tahts alot. The problem here, as best as I have been able to figure, is upshaw wants to force the league to come to a conclusion on its owners revenue sharing. This is not the NFLPAs business, and the CBA extension could be possible, but Upshaw wont let it happen till this gets dealt with. Though a small part probobly involves the 4% extra upshaw wants. The league has compromised to the tune of about 10% of revenue, it is willing to give to players. Upshaw? Comprimised 0%. It wasnt a negotiation, it was Upshaw telling everyone it would all happen exactly his way. When you have one side making all the demands and not even willing to budge an inch, hes overreaching. The old CBA was obviously good enough for so long, this CBA would be even BETTER for the players, yet Upshaw wont take it. I think you are right. In terms of the players, they are getting an even better deal. The owners are also bickering with one another, but their gripes make sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dent19 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Isnt UPSHAW on our side? He wants a higher salary cap, and even went as far to say that Snyder was one of the top three owners in the league. I could be wrong here... Yes And No,,,, He wants higher cap to help the players not the teams. They want a bigger pc. of the revenue sharing. NFLPA wants 60%, Owners are near 52% (I think) Gene is a good guy doing the best job he can to get the players all the can get. The NFL is trying to make as much money it can. Neither side wants this. Teams will cut way too many good players on Friday, and those players wont be able to sign deals elsewhere or only to teams with cap space. Then next yr an uncaped season may equal strike...... We as the fans will suffer.... :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawboy_2000 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Step back from the ledges, people! This is negotiation and posturing at its finest. Both sides are going to threaten the nuclear option, and the owners know that they have the NFLPA under their thumb. Upshaw will blink because his constituency does not want to be unemployed, and there are many people that will take their jobs for less. Simply stated, the deal will get done in the eleventh hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Harris Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Hasn't this topic already been discussed somewhere? (I'm too lazy to look) you don't even really have to look for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinva Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 again, it is not that percent (although you are talking about millions and millions of dollars with each percent) it is the divergence of owners opinions about what is individual and what is common moneys.. that is huge to guys like snyder and jones The CBA and the revenue sharing are actually 2 seperate issues. Some owners want to get the revenue sharing down first so that they know how much they have to spend, but one can happen without the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark The Homer Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 It seems to me, without an agreement, this is a lose-lose situation. That's why I believe an agreement will be reached "in the eleventh hour" as someone has already said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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