Mooka Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2338398 2 first round picks, plus Abraham will want a monster deal. Peanuts... :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Redskin Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Ok so now we are left with D.Howard or kampman. Or draft, or of course the more likely choice of someone I would never guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2338398 2 first round picks, plus Abraham will want a monster deal. Peanuts... :laugh: They arent going to get that for him. No way in hell. As it states in the article.. While the team applied the designation last spring to prevent Abraham from departing as an unrestricted free agent, there continue to be rumors the Jets may have kept him this year in order to trade the three-time Pro Bowl performer. The practice of using the franchise tag to retain a player for a subsequent trade has become far more common in the league the last few years. they will get a deal done for him then lift the tag, ala Trotter a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotomacSkinsFan Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 well, there goes that. I'm actually not that upset about it, because he seems like an a-hole in terms of his contract. ps--have the skins ever used a franchise tag? I can't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotomacSkinsFan Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 they will get a deal done for him then lift the tag, ala Trotter a few years ago. ahhhhh, that makes sense. that seems like a good move to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgies Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Didn't they use the tag on Sean Gilbert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 well, there goes that. I'm actually not that upset about it, because he seems like an a-hole in terms of his contract.ps--have the skins ever used a franchise tag? I can't remember Sean Gilbert nabed us Samuels and Arrington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galentjm Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Sean Gilbert nabed us Samuels and Arrington. Actually we got Arrington in the Ricky Williams deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galentjm Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 They arent going to get that for him. No way in hell. As it states in the article..they will get a deal done for him then lift the tag, ala Trotter a few years ago. The eagles didn't lift the tag in order to facilitate a trade, they released him in order to let him walk as a free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shallyshal Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 They arent going to get that for him. No way in hell. As it states in the article..they will get a deal done for him then lift the tag, ala Trotter a few years ago. exactly... they likely have a deal inthe works because for them to get hit with abraham's tag figure of 8 mil this year would be catastrophic for them. they will take the best deal they can get and wish him bon voyage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 The eagles didn't lift the tag in order to facilitate a trade, they released him in order to let him walk as a free agent. True. They only lifted the tag when no one would bite and they just wanted to part ways with him. Jets wont do that for Abraham but they will lift the tag when (not if) they get someone to bite on a deal for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana87 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 IMO they already have the frameworks of a deal worked out to send Abraham to the Redskins for Ramsey. Here is why... 1). They are not going to keep Abraham with that cap figure. 2). They don't have a QB 3). The new staff would like to draft a young QB a groom him behind Ramsey. 4). Ramsey has alot to prove and will probably sign for cheap. Now we get to wait to see it unfold. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Kenzo Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 This offseason is going to be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganggreen76 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 IMO they already have the frameworks of a deal worked out to send Abraham to the Redskins for Ramsey. Here is why...1). They are not going to keep Abraham with that cap figure. 2). They don't have a QB 3). The new staff would like to draft a young QB a groom him behind Ramsey. 4). Ramsey has alot to prove and will probably sign for cheap. Now we get to wait to see it unfold. :thumbsup: :laugh: Puhleeze!!! Get real, you aren't getting Abe for your backup qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonez3 Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Actually we got Arrington in the Ricky Williams deal. No- that was Champ. LA and Samuels were 2-3 in 2000 for Gilbert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedUpField Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 IMO they already have the frameworks of a deal worked out to send Abraham to the Redskins for Ramsey. Abraham for Ramsey. Awesome! ....and a bajillion dollars and forty draft picks and our cheerleaders. But still, Abraham for Ramsey, right? - FUF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peckerwood Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 the offseason sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the burgundy and gold Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 yeah, I'm bored of it already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 This offseason is pretty crazy if you ask me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingdaddy Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 :laugh: Puhleeze!!! Get real, you aren't getting Abe for your backup qb. What are the chances that we deal Ramsey and Arrington to the Jets for Abraham? Or, since we'll have no money, Ramsey and our #2 for Abraham? Dumping Arrington and Ramsey to the Jets, who could use both of them, might be the old headache(s) for a headache deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheREALJBird Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 No- that was Champ. LA and Samuels were 2-3 in 2000 for Gilbert. DING DING DING, that is the correct answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galentjm Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 No- that was Champ. LA and Samuels were 2-3 in 2000 for Gilbert. DING DING DING, that is the correct answer Champ was who we chose after trading down in the 1999 draft. The draft picks received in the deal included the pick used to draft Arrington in 2000. In the months before the 1999 NFL Draft, Ditka became enamored with Texas running back Ricky Williams, the Heisman Trophy winner who'd set an NCAA record for career rushing yards with the Longhorns. Ditka's remarks that he'd "trade his entire draft" for the standout runner were well-publicized; holding the #13 overall pick, the Saints would need to trade up to have a chance at selecting Williams.They got their chance to do so when the Indianapolis Colts selected Miami running back Edgerrin James with the #4 overall pick. The Saints orchestrated a three-way trade with the Washington Redskins and the Chicago Bears that involved the Saints' taking Washington's #5 overall pick — and, therefore, Williams — in exchange for all the Saints' remaining 1999 draft picks and their first- and third-rounders in 2000. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_New_Orleans_Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
galentjm Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 This site has a good break down of how the Ricky Williams deal played out. Washington's then-general manager Charlie Casserly gave up the fifth selection in the first round of the 1999 draft that Mike Ditka used on Ricky Williams for all six of Iron Mike's picks that year (1-12, 3-71, 4-107, 5-144, 6-179 and 7-218) plus 1st and 3rd-round choices in 2000 that became the 2nd and 64th overall. http://www.drafthistory.com/articles/article23.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor ToughLove Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 oh what a shock. I was right again?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganggreen76 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 What are the chances that we deal Ramsey and Arrington to the Jets for Abraham? Or, since we'll have no money, Ramsey and our #2 for Abraham?Dumping Arrington and Ramsey to the Jets, who could use both of them, might be the old headache(s) for a headache deal. Either one of those trades would work for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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