Once and for all, to settle the "phantom" holding call

[bubba9497]

Visual eveidence proves Snee held Wynn. He grabs his Jersey as Wynn spins, and pulls him down. Holding... PERIOD

Nothing phantom about it, wishful whinning by Giant fans :laugh: , but it was a hold.

Good Call :applause:

[Tom [Giants fan]]

Dude, that aint holding, that is just blurry.

[ChocolateCitySkin]

didn't realize it was a controversy-- looked likea hold to me

[bubba9497]

']Dude' date=' that aint holding, that is just blurry.[/quote']

Tom you can clearly see Wynn's Black shoulder pads, and his number 97 is askwed by Snee holding the Jersey. Come on you are above this.

[RyansRangers]

']Dude' date=' that aint holding, that is just blurry.[/quote']

:laugh:

[krsone]

']Dude' date=' that aint holding, that is just blurry.[/quote']

blurry yes but, u dont see his jersey being pulled on the first pic?

[War Paint]

Yeah, I don't know why people are saying that was a phantom hold. He pulls Wynn to the ground. That was obvious.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

bubba,

I'm not saying it wasn't holding. I just can't see in that pic. My eye sight isn't what it used to be. And to be honest, I never got a look that would say it wasn't holding. The announcers actually said it. I don't know if I agree. I never got a clear look. I'll trust the refs. It took more than just that call for the Giants to lose.

[Teller]

What upset me about that play was watching Tiki dive and Marcus Washington's knees after seeing Brunell go out on what I think was a DIRTY shot to HIS knees.

[bubba9497]

one last shot, as Wynn hits the ground, both hands of Snees, still holding on to Wynn's jersey. If he wasn't holding... no way he could keep his hands on Wynn at the angle they are both falling.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

honorary hog,

It wasn't a cheap shot at Brunell's knees. Greisen was stumbling and the only way he could tackle Brunell was around the legs. He didn't intentionally dive at his legs.

[skins266]

if you pull his jersey its called holding, good call

[Tom [Giants fan]]

bubba,

Again, I'm not disputing the holding call. I never have. I'm just saying that that pic doesn't show me anything. I could make the same assumption as you but if you are asking me to see the hold in that pic, I can't. And it isn't because it didn't happen. I just can't see in that pic.

[bubba9497]

']Dude' date=' [b']that aint holding,[/b] that is just blurry.

']bubba' date='

I'm not saying it wasn't holding. .[/quote']

:laugh: say what??

:jk:

[Ghost of]

Tom

You may not see the fistful of jersey, but you don't need to. The positioning, the stretching of the #97, etc all add up to an obvious hold. It's not like we can't see Wynn, his jersey, his hand position, Snee's arms, etc.

[bubba9497]

']honorary hog' date='

It wasn't a cheap shot at Brunell's knees. Greisen was stumbling and the only way he could tackle Brunell was around the legs. He didn't intentionally dive at his legs.[/quote']

intentional or not, (just like a head shot on a QB).. it 's a penalty, and should have gotten a flag

[jabronijames]

']honorary hog' date='

It wasn't a cheap shot at Brunell's knees. Greisen was stumbling and the only way he could tackle Brunell was around the legs. He didn't intentionally dive at his legs.[/quote']

Tom, I totally agree with you. There was nothing dirty about that hit on Brunell. I think the league has gone way overboard with putting skirts on the quarterbacks and now the fans expect a call every time their QB hits the turf. Good "no-call" by the officials, and good hit by Greisen. Unfortunate for Brunell, but he's got pads just like everyone else.

Thanks for being a sport about your sig. Nice to know you showed up to sport it! Hail To The Redskins!

[greenmile]

i have to agree with Mr. giant. Where the hell did you get that pic from, VHS taped off of a 1974 RF television with rabbit ears?

[bubba9497]

i have to agree with Mr. giant. Where the hell did you get that pic from, VHS taped off of a 1974 RF television with rabbit ears?

Don't blame me, blame fox. They only showed a wide angle view, no close up.

[herrmag]

Hitting someone in the knees is a penalty? Honestly, I'm asking. I had not idea.

[bubba9497]

Hitting someone in the knees is a penalty? Honestly, I'm asking. I had not idea.

Hitting the Qb passing in the knees, is a penalty, just like hitting a QB in the head.

[ArmchairRedskin]

']Dude' date=' that aint holding, that is just blurry.[/quote']

:laugh:

[Westbrook36]

A game wouldn't be complete without Bubba posting some blurry, one-sided photos, shown at the most opportune time for his side of the argument, without any photos showing the other sides viewpoint.

Good work, Bubba. You never disappoint.

[tabularasa]

There was never any doubt. Even the NFL Channel tried to pull the "where is the foul" with a visual zoom-in, which they showed in slow motion. To sum it up, at the end, all you heard was yeah, it was a take down, holding. Call correct. It's official. Stop ****ing Giants fans, it's over.

[bubba9497]

A game wouldn't be complete without Bubba posting some blurry, one-sided photos, shown at the most opportune time for his side of the argument, without any photos showing the other sides viewpoint.

Good work, Bubba. You never disappoint.

now exactly how could I show him not holding? show another play???

See I don't alter, skew, hide, or lie when I defend my point. What's there is there... but hey you already know this... but you never miss an opportunity to spin the logic to "try" and take a shot at me... and again you fail..

you never disappoint :applause: