bubba9497 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Visual eveidence proves Snee held Wynn. He grabs his Jersey as Wynn spins, and pulls him down. Holding... PERIOD Nothing phantom about it, wishful whinning by Giant fans :laugh: , but it was a hold. Good Call :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Dude, that aint holding, that is just blurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCitySkin Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 didn't realize it was a controversy-- looked likea hold to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 ']Dude' date=' that aint holding, that is just blurry.[/quote']Tom you can clearly see Wynn's Black shoulder pads, and his number 97 is askwed by Snee holding the Jersey. Come on you are above this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 ']Dude' date=' that aint holding, that is just blurry.[/quote'] :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krsone Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 ']Dude' date=' that aint holding, that is just blurry.[/quote']blurry yes but, u dont see his jersey being pulled on the first pic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Paint Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Yeah, I don't know why people are saying that was a phantom hold. He pulls Wynn to the ground. That was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 bubba, I'm not saying it wasn't holding. I just can't see in that pic. My eye sight isn't what it used to be. And to be honest, I never got a look that would say it wasn't holding. The announcers actually said it. I don't know if I agree. I never got a clear look. I'll trust the refs. It took more than just that call for the Giants to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 What upset me about that play was watching Tiki dive and Marcus Washington's knees after seeing Brunell go out on what I think was a DIRTY shot to HIS knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 one last shot, as Wynn hits the ground, both hands of Snees, still holding on to Wynn's jersey. If he wasn't holding... no way he could keep his hands on Wynn at the angle they are both falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 honorary hog, It wasn't a cheap shot at Brunell's knees. Greisen was stumbling and the only way he could tackle Brunell was around the legs. He didn't intentionally dive at his legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins266 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 if you pull his jersey its called holding, good call Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 bubba, Again, I'm not disputing the holding call. I never have. I'm just saying that that pic doesn't show me anything. I could make the same assumption as you but if you are asking me to see the hold in that pic, I can't. And it isn't because it didn't happen. I just can't see in that pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 ']Dude' date=' [b']that aint holding,[/b] that is just blurry. ']bubba' date='I'm not saying it wasn't holding. .[/quote'] :laugh: say what?? :jk: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Tom You may not see the fistful of jersey, but you don't need to. The positioning, the stretching of the #97, etc all add up to an obvious hold. It's not like we can't see Wynn, his jersey, his hand position, Snee's arms, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 ']honorary hog' date='It wasn't a cheap shot at Brunell's knees. Greisen was stumbling and the only way he could tackle Brunell was around the legs. He didn't intentionally dive at his legs.[/quote'] intentional or not, (just like a head shot on a QB).. it 's a penalty, and should have gotten a flag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabronijames Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 ']honorary hog' date='It wasn't a cheap shot at Brunell's knees. Greisen was stumbling and the only way he could tackle Brunell was around the legs. He didn't intentionally dive at his legs.[/quote'] Tom, I totally agree with you. There was nothing dirty about that hit on Brunell. I think the league has gone way overboard with putting skirts on the quarterbacks and now the fans expect a call every time their QB hits the turf. Good "no-call" by the officials, and good hit by Greisen. Unfortunate for Brunell, but he's got pads just like everyone else. Thanks for being a sport about your sig. Nice to know you showed up to sport it! Hail To The Redskins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmile Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 i have to agree with Mr. giant. Where the hell did you get that pic from, VHS taped off of a 1974 RF television with rabbit ears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 i have to agree with Mr. giant. Where the hell did you get that pic from, VHS taped off of a 1974 RF television with rabbit ears? Don't blame me, blame fox. They only showed a wide angle view, no close up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herrmag Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 Hitting someone in the knees is a penalty? Honestly, I'm asking. I had not idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 Hitting someone in the knees is a penalty? Honestly, I'm asking. I had not idea. Hitting the Qb passing in the knees, is a penalty, just like hitting a QB in the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmchairRedskin Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 ']Dude' date=' that aint holding, that is just blurry.[/quote'] :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westbrook36 Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 A game wouldn't be complete without Bubba posting some blurry, one-sided photos, shown at the most opportune time for his side of the argument, without any photos showing the other sides viewpoint. Good work, Bubba. You never disappoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tabularasa Posted December 26, 2005 Share Posted December 26, 2005 There was never any doubt. Even the NFL Channel tried to pull the "where is the foul" with a visual zoom-in, which they showed in slow motion. To sum it up, at the end, all you heard was yeah, it was a take down, holding. Call correct. It's official. Stop ****ing Giants fans, it's over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted December 26, 2005 Author Share Posted December 26, 2005 A game wouldn't be complete without Bubba posting some blurry, one-sided photos, shown at the most opportune time for his side of the argument, without any photos showing the other sides viewpoint.Good work, Bubba. You never disappoint. now exactly how could I show him not holding? show another play??? See I don't alter, skew, hide, or lie when I defend my point. What's there is there... but hey you already know this... but you never miss an opportunity to spin the logic to "try" and take a shot at me... and again you fail.. you never disappoint :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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